Guided by feelings ???

[Carl Emerson]

Number one above all else, is to be in God's truth as explained in the New Testament. To love truth is to reject the manipulation of scripture in order to produce a desired outcome. In my time I have witnessed Christians teach the Bible literal and in context UNTIL they come to a place where the Bible does not agree with their theology, then they resort to dishonest manipulation in order to make the Bible seem to agree with them. So, the NT is the final word, but it only works if you are truthful. Scary news, Satan can give a person a great spiritual sense of peace and of being right...always go by a truthful interpretation of the NT.

Yes - one is more likely to understand what He is saying if one understands what He has said previous.

And yes - being honest with God and giving Him the questions that challenge our presuppositions is critical - He is the teacher not us, or the pastor, or the latest voice that is on trend. It is so easy to slip into saying what others want to hear. I love the account in 2 Chron 18 - surely Satan had caused the prophets to believe they were right...

 

[Carl Emerson]

It needs to be balanced with Jeremiah 17:9.
Feelings can be very subjective and far too many people claim they are being led by the Holy Spirit when they are more likely being led by their own feelings.

This is why in my list of the 5 things that must align when seeking guidance - the other 4 will deal with heart deceit - and we need to be in mutual submission.

 

[frank sears]

Is there really a still small voice of the spirit? Almost all people who claim to hear such a voice and have been willing to share with the public what they have heard have been proven wrong. I have found that God rarely if ever speaks, but if He does you do not have to strain in order to hear.

 

[Carl Emerson]

Is there really a still small voice of the spirit? Almost all people who claim to hear such a voice and have been willing to share with the public what they have heard have been proven wrong. I have found that God rarely if ever speaks, but if He does you do not have to strain in order to hear.

My OP is presenting the work of the Holy Spirit in personal guidance.

Prophesy is a completely different issue.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

sometimes a new convert can have a keener ear on the Lord's Word than the veterans.

this is possible. However, there is a reason why a novice cannot be placed in leadership positions. Falling into satan's trap relates to being too easily swayed by emotions.

It's okay to have emotions, but they are of the flesh, so letting them direct you is not recommended by the holy teachings.

 

[Carl Emerson]

this is possible. However, there is a reason why a novice cannot be placed in leadership positions. Falling into satan's trap relates to being too easily swayed by emotions.

Yep - and I have seen leaders fall for the same reasons...

It's okay to have emotions, but they are of the flesh, so letting them direct you is not recommended by the holy teachings.

What "Holy Teachings"?

Not all emotions are of the flesh.

However the topic is more about the Peace that passes all understanding.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Yep - and I have seen leaders fall for the same reasons...



What "Holy Teachings"?

Not all emotions are of the flesh.

However the topic is more about the Peace that passes all understanding.

The peace that surpasses understanding, is peace that surpasses your understanding, bypassing all that inner noise.

The flesh cannot discern the things of the spirit, so it is a peace that is beyond the human faculty of understanding.

The body we have is a temporary dwelling, it is the same body we had before being born again. Emotions originate from that body based on external stimuli, so the emotions originate from said flesh.

 

[Carl Emerson]

So when the disciples said they felt their hearts strangely warmed encountering the risen Jesus was that not emotion.

When Jesus had compassion on the crowds was that not emotion.

When Jesus wept was that not emotion.

Or are we defining terms to fit our theology.

Responding to external stimuli can be compassionate.

Not too respond can be the flesh.

Think good Samaritan.

Think Jonah

9 But God said to Jonah, “Do you have a good reason to be angry about the plant?” And he said, “I have good reason to be angry, even to the point of death!” 10 Then the Lord said, “You had compassion on the plant, for which you did not work and which you did not cause to grow, which came up overnight and perished overnight. 11 Should I not also have compassion on Nineveh, the great city in which there are more than 120,000 people, who do not know the difference between their right hand and their left, as well as many animals?”

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Emotions are "there," however, they are not what guides us into any or all truth.

It is important to recognize that they exist, and their role.

 

[Carl Emerson]

Emotions are "there," however, they are not what guides us into any or all truth.

It is important to recognize that they exist, and their role.

Agree - however the peace that passes all understanding is a deep feeling confirming the Truth.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Agree - however the peace that passes all understanding is a deep feeling confirming the Truth.

If you can feel it, it's an understanding. This peace that the scripture teaches is commonly experienced by people who feel everything is lost.

It surpasses understanding, and grants peace of the divine.

 

[Carl Emerson]

What you describe sounds more like a mystical peace.

I am talking about the normal everyday believer seeking His wisdom in their daily lives confirmed by the indwelling voice of the Holy Spirit accompanied by His peace that passes all understanding.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

What you describe sounds more like a mystical peace.

I am talking about the normal everyday believer seeking His wisdom in their daily lives confirmed by the indwelling voice of the Holy Spirit accompanied by His peace that passes all understanding.

The normal everyday perception on this matter results in people equating emotions with spirituality, leading the church to practice christian activities with occult principles.

So that doesn't sound right, just have to say.

 

[Carl Emerson]

So real spirituality is only found among the spiritual elite ???

And the Gospel is not for the common man???

 

[Joined2krist]

The world(satan) also gives a kind of peace that has misled many, if we are to be guided by God's peace then this should be done through prayers. God's peace is a fruit of the Spirit

 

[Carl Emerson]

Ezra 9
‘The land which you are entering to possess is an unclean land with the uncleanness of the peoples of the lands, with their abominations which have filled it from end to end, and with their impurity. 12 So now do not give your daughters to their sons nor take their daughters for your sons, and never seek their peace or their prosperity, so that you may be strong and may eat the good things of the land, and leave it as an inheritance to your sons forever.’

 

[Gregory Thompson]

So real spirituality is only found among the spiritual elite ???

And the Gospel is not for the common man???

Until someone is born again by the Holy Spirit, the spirit in a person is dead, thus spirituality is impossible.

The gospel is the power of eternal life to those who believe.

 

[Carl Emerson]

Until someone is born again by the Holy Spirit, the spirit in a person is dead, thus spirituality is impossible.

The gospel is the power of eternal life to those who believe.

I would hope we all know that... but maybe not.

Do you think this is not widely known ???

 

[Gregory Thompson]

I would hope we all know that... but maybe not.

Do you think this is not widely known ???

Some of the scripture does read like legalese, this is possible.

 

[Carl Emerson]

Some of the scripture does read like legalese, this is possible.

Yes... we must ask for Him to guide us in what to read and open His truth to us.