Greek Mythology and creation

[Job 33:6]

Only in the most vague sense. The titans in Greek mythology existed before the Athenian gods. They weren't sons of the gods, more like their predecessors.

Did you watch the video? The language of the Bible is verbatim repetition of Greek literature. Bound in chains of Tartarus under a misty gloom, buried in rocks.

 

[FireDragon76]

Did you watch the video? The language of the Bible is verbatim repetition of Greek literature. Bound in chains of Tartarus under a misty gloom, buried in rocks.

I studied Greek mythology in highschool. There are similarities but also clear differences.

The titans represented abstract concepts and primordial forces of nature. They aren't analogous to the "sons of God" in Genesis, which sounds more like a theological commentary on what were probably folk stories of giants, trying to connect those stories to Genesis account of the Fall.

In addition, Michael Heiser's scholarship, which the video relies on a great deal in its assumptions, isn't something I take seriously, for a variety of reasons.

 

[Job 33:6]

I studied Greek mythology in highschool. There are similarities but also clear differences.

The titans represented abstract concepts and primordial forces of nature. They aren't analogous to the "sons of God" in Genesis, which sounds more like a theological commentary on what were probably folk stories of giants, trying to connect those stories to Genesis account of the Fall.

In addition, Michael Heiser's scholarship, which the video relies on a great deal in its assumptions, isn't something I take seriously, for a variety of reasons.

The acknowledgement of similarities is all I'm pointing out. Judes writings appear to have been influenced by Greek mythology via the book of Enoch.

"That The children of the gods should not meet with wretched mortals, seeing their feet in their own eyes, But that the blessed God's henceforth even as aforetime should have their living and their inhabitants apart from men. But on those who were born of immortals and of mankind verily Zeus lay toil and sorrow upon sorrow."
-Hesiods Catalogues of Women and Eoiae.

Even beyond Hesiods theogony, and parallels of titans buried in rock and stone, chained up in Tartarus, and covered beneath a gloomy darkness, the nephelim themselves were described as giants, much like the Titans. There are references to children of God mating with human women, and Zeus laying toil and sorrow upon the interbred children. In instances where the gods did not keep to their proper dwelling.

The narratives are not identical, but the evidence for influence remains.

 

[Paul4JC]

The acknowledgement of similarities is all I'm pointing out. Judes writings appear to have been influenced by Greek mythology via the book of Enoch.

"That The children of the gods should not meet with wretched mortals, seeing their feet in their own eyes, But that the blessed God's henceforth even as aforetime should have their living and their inhabitants apart from men. But on those who were born of immortals and of mankind verily Zeus lay toil and sorrow upon sorrow."
-Hesiods Catalogues of Women and Eoiae.

Even beyond Hesiods theogony, and parallels of titans buried in rock and stone, chained up in Tartarus, and covered beneath a gloomy darkness, the nephelim themselves were described as giants, much like the Titans. There are references to children of God mating with human women, and Zeus laying toil and sorrow upon the interbred children. In instances where the gods did not keep to their proper dwelling.

The narratives are not identical, but the evidence for influence remains.

Hesiod’s Theogony, “720 From their massive hands, and the stones they shot Overshadowed the Titans, and they sent them under The wide-pathed earth and bound them with cruel bonds— Having beaten them down despite their daring— As far under earth as the sky is above, 725 For it is that far from earth down to misty Tartaro 730… while above it grow The roots of earth and the unharvested sea. There the Titans are concealed in the misty gloom 735 … There is no way out for them.”

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Hesiod Theogony.pdf

“Hear me,” said he, “gods and goddesses, that I may speak even as I am minded. Let none of you neither goddess nor god try to cross me, but obey me every one of you that I may bring this matter to an end. If I see anyone acting apart and helping either Trojans or Danaans, he shall be beaten inordinately ere he come back again to Olympus; or I will hurl him down into dark Tartarus far into the deepest pit under the earth, where the gates are iron and the floor bronze, as far beneath Hades as heaven is high above the earth, that you may learn how much the mightiest I am among you. ”

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The Project Gutenberg eBook of The Iliad, by Homer Book VIII

The Holy Spirit inspired Peter to use the same word...

[2 Peter 2:4 HNV] For if God didn't spare angels when they sinned, but cast them down to Tartarus, and committed them to pits of darkness, to be reserved to judgment;

Jude also refers to the same event...

[Jde 1:6 NIV] And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling--these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day.


Beside Greek mythology clearly, Jude and Peter make allusions to the book of 1 Enoch

1 Enoch 10:11 And to Michael he said, “Go, Michael, bind Shemihazah and the others with him, who have mated with the daughters of men, so that they were defiled by them in their uncleanness. 12 And when their sons perish and they see the destruction of their beloved ones, bind them for seventy generations in the valleys of the earth, until the day of their judgment and consummation, until the everlasting judgment is consummated. 13 Then they will be led away to the fiery abyss, and to the torture, and to the prison where they will be confined forever. 14 And everyone who is condemned and destroyed henceforth will be bound together with them until the consummation of their generation. <And at the time of the judgment, which I shall judge, they will perish for all generations.> 15 Destroy all the spirits of the half-breeds and the sons of the watchers, because they have wronged men. ​

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Nickelsburg, George W.E.; VanderKam, James C.. 1 Enoch: The Hermeneia Translation (pp. 29-30). Fortress Press.

 

[zippy2006]

It's only in modern times that ethics has been divorced from the rest of philosophy, perhaps owing to the legacy of Protestant theology.

That's an interesting thesis. For some reason I have heard the Reformation associated with individualism and the shaking off of authorities, more than with a cleavage between theory and practice (or knowledge and ethics). This actually makes a lot of sense.