Gratuitous Plug for YEC

[busterdog]

Dopey is the new Genius. (Is that turn of phrase getting old yet? Its the new "Please don't squeeze the Charmin.")

He was slow in learning how to talk. "My parents were so worried," he later recalled, "that they consulted a doctor." Even after he had begun using words, sometime after the age of 2, he developed a quirk that prompted the family maid to dub him "der Depperte," the dopey one. Whenever he had something to say, he would try it out on himself, whispering it softly until it sounded good enough to pronounce aloud. "Every sentence he uttered," his worshipful younger sister recalled, "no matter how routine, he repeated to himself softly, moving his lips." It was all very worrying, she said. "He had such difficulty with language that those around him feared he would never learn."
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His slow development was combined with a cheeky rebelliousness toward authority, which led one schoolmaster to send him packing and another to declare that he would never amount to much. These traits made Albert Einstein the patron saint of distracted schoolkids everywhere. But they also helped make him, or so he later surmised, the most creative scientific genius of modern times.
His cocky contempt for authority led him to question received wisdom in ways that well-trained acolytes in the academy never contemplated. And as for his slow verbal development, he thought that it allowed him to observe with wonder the everyday phenomena that others took for granted. Instead of puzzling over mysterious things, he puzzled over the commonplace. "When I ask myself how it happened that I in particular discovered the relativity theory, it seemed to lie in the following circumstance," Einstein once explained. "The ordinary adult never bothers his head about the problems of space and time. These are things he has thought of as a child. But I developed so slowly that I began to wonder about space and time only when I was already grown up. Consequently, I probed more deeply into the problem than an ordinary child would have."

Sounds like a dopey, rebellious YEC for sure!

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1607298,00.html

 

[Deamiter]

Consequently, I probed more deeply into the problem than an ordinary child would have.

Doesn't really strike me as the actions of the typical YEC. Seems to me your idea of 'probing' is to do a quick search on ICR where evidence is selectively presented rather than discover evidence yourself or even read original journal articles of the people who are actually doing the discovering.

I don't see that as an indictment of YECs in general -- the world would collapse pretty quickly if everybody was a scientist and nobody worked in economics, business, garbage collection etc... But just being non-conformist is hardly worth comparing to Eintstein.

And that's without even beginning to get into the fact that Einstein actually bothered to justify his ideas rather than claim victory with "Goddidit so no matter what we find, it's consistant with our utterly unfalsifiable hypothesis."

 

[random_guy]

I'm with Deamiter on this one. I doubt Einstein rejects evidence just because it doesn't jive with his beliefs. Not only that, I doubt Einstein rejects the scientific method. If anything, he embraced it to disprove current theories. YECists tend to not accept the scientific method since it doesn't include God. Finally, I'm pretty sure that most YECists tend to not show deep thinking in terms of science. That's why we still get things about how evolution violates the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, or how almost no YECists can actually define what evolution is or most think that abiogenesis and evolution are the same thing. In order to take down a theory, you must understand it. All in all, it's a very long stretch to compare Einstein to YECists.

 

[Jadis40]

The thing about Einstein is that he subscribed to the prevailing idea of his time that the universe was static. However, his E=MC2 statement of relativity predicted that the universe was either expanding or contracting.

Enter Hubble's law that states the further away a galaxy is from us, the faster it's moving away.

I quote:

Hubble, who had been the first to establish that the universe included many other galaxies outside of our own, noticed something else: the galaxies were receding from us at a velocity proportional to their distance. The more distant the galaxy, the greater its redshift, and therefore the higher the velocity, a relation known as Hubble's Law.

An article on this can be found here:

http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu/Cyberia/Cosmos/ExpandUni.html

What's interesting is that they state that the "center" of the universe is relative. Take any galaxy outside of the Milky Way, and it would appear to be the center.

 

[busterdog]

I just wanted an excuse to post the article in the OT and possibly provoke a couple of people in the process. He He.

One of the facinating things about the article was how Einstein would mouth his words to himself. Apparently he was taking the time to break down complexities in the simplest of language that few of us see.

Or, because he was probably so highly spatially oriented, he may have needed or just preferred an extra step in his language processing.

 

[GratiaCorpusChristi]

Good old Einstein.

It's amazing how important Big Bang cosmology is to developing a well-rounded cosmological argument (argument from first cause) and a static theory of time that soundly refutes the A-theorists who tend toward open theism, which are considerably more important doctrinal issues than a six-day young earth, and yet it's rejected because of the six-day young earth...

 

[shernren]

Even though relativistic concepts are extremely revolutionary, Einstein never needed a US$27 million museum to convince the world that he was right.

 

[Deamiter]

Even though relativistic concepts are extremely revolutionary, Einstein never needed a US$27 million museum to convince the world that he was right.

To be fair, it'd cost a LOT more than that to explain even the basics of QM to the public... probably about as much as it'd take to correct all the misconceptions regarding evolution (how many times have you heard, "bananas don't come from frogs" as a 'rebuttal' to evolution?)

Of course, quantum mechanics and relativity are extremely useful and affect our everyday lives whether we understand them or not -- so incidentally does evolution. I always find it rather ironic that even if common ancestry were disproven and replaced with an intelligent designer, the actual theory of evolution wouldn't be touched and would still be just as useful in predicting the relationship between diverging populations.