Gothic Christians.

[Untamed Fire]

but the truth is, no body wants to be around a depressed gloomy negative person ...
you have to die to your flesh, and bear with them and stay with them anyway to see them saved if the Lord leads you to, but its not something you enjoy.
and somepeople may be so spiritual that they just LOVE doing all the Lord tells them to do, but im gonna be real, i dont LOVE to do all that the Lord tells me to do, and i certainly dont LOVE to be around people who are purposely negative and depressing because that's not how the Lord made us and it wears on you .... its alright for people who dont know God to be that way, though when a person gets saved God changes all that and brings joy and happiness, if they stay close to God.

Your honesty is commendable, but there are some serious flaws in your logic here, and some outright judgments against other people that are not necessary. And I'm not talking just about "goths" here but about people who suffer from depression and/or bipolar and can neither help the way they are nor are they doing it "on purpose". In fact, it is people passing judgments of that nature that add to the burden of having to bear with an illness like that. If you "certainly don't LOVE" being part of the SOLUTION by having to set your own self aside to minister to people in pain, then please do those in pain a favor, and at least remove yourself from being part of the PROBLEM by blaming them for something they didn't want, didn't choose, and can't help. Your judgments -- that they are (a) doing it "purposefully" and (b) not really saved or true to or close to God if they struggle with these things and don't automatically paste on a fake happy face and perform 24/7 as the New Miss Merry Sunshine -- are not only completely wrong, but they are offensive in the extreme to me and furthermore, a stumblingblock to my faith and to the faith of others like me who deal with these kinds of afflictions or even who simply were not born with a happy fluffbunny conformist fitter-inner disposition, 9/10 of which is the product of how OTHERS treat you rather than how you yourself feel, I might add!! So... if you don't want to help us see Jesus, fine -- just kindly stop blocking the view yourself with this mean-spirited lack of compassion.

 

[Endure2]

sorry, ill send you a pm, i cant post what i want to here.

 

[Endure2]

but ill say this
"GO ANN COULTER!"

 

[Untamed Fire]

I see, you couldn't say heil hitler or hail satan so you picked the closest and most socially acceptable version of saying the same thing. Sorry friend, your argument is not with me ...

Matthew 5:
*** 3 "Blessed are the poor in spirit,
*******for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
*** 4 Blessed are those who mourn,
*******for they will be comforted.
*** 5 Blessed are the meek,
*******for they will inherit the earth.
*** 6Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
*******for they will be filled.
*** 7Blessed are the merciful,
*******for they will be shown mercy.
*** 8Blessed are the pure in heart,
*******for they will see God.
*** 9Blessed are the peacemakers,
*******for they will be called sons of God.

Maybe you ought to look into finding a religion that appeals to the things you cherish in your heart, and teaches "stamp down the wretched and the weak" (as you define them, of course) instead. You might be happier there rather than under the horribly oppressive system of Christianity which tries to tell you to cultivate a loving and tender heart toward others, particularly those less fortunate than yourself.

But we all know the Beast is on the rise ...

 

[Untamed Fire]

sorry, ill send you a pm, i cant post what i want to here.

Shall I loan you a pair, brother, and post it for you? Including the portions where you claim I said something I did not say and then proceed to construct, erect, and summarily torch a nifty little pointless strawman upon it?

 

[Endure2]

sorry.

 

[Endure2]

sorry