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Got Myself In A Mess

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I have never had an affair. I have had offers, but always turned them down. I also have never had a one night stand and my only sex partner has been my wife. We have not been close in years, but are trying.

After working with a female friend for the past 10 years I noticed things starting to change. She was a lot friendlier. She is a single mom and her one child had just left the nest. I am married with two kids.

We were all at a bar with a male friend one afternoon and the lady friend and I just started holding hands. I was thrilled. I hadn't had female physical contact let alone sex in over a year. I had fallen in love with this woman years ago, but never told her. Never saw the point.

The talk turned sexual. Our male friend and she said they could do one night stands, but didn't think I could. She said I would feel too guilty. They then said they both could have sex just for sex without ties, emotional involvement, etc. They both felt that I couldn't.

The summer went on and like a fool I continued to hold hands with her right out in public. My male friend said don't do that...get a room. We progressed to heavy petting...again right in public. She dropped hints that it wasn't wise, but never said no. I must state at this time that I had no idea what I was doing.

I didn't know at the time what she wanted, which was sex with no ties. I would love to have had sex with her, but didn't know what to do or how to ask. I also missed her hints. I know all of this months after the fact because my male mutual friend told me.

I finally told her I wanted to be more than friends. She told me I was married. I didn't get that after what had happened all summer so I told her if I was single she would be the one. She then asked me about divorce, who would get the kids. She was very concerned I would get divorced and regret it and miss the kids. She and I both share the idea that kids are most important. She then told me to go home and make the best of it. She has had no contact with me since.

My male friend has talked with her and says she feels terrible about this and says she has no contact with me because it is the only way to handle it for her. I would just like to talk, to clear up things, but no go. I found out now she did this to protect everyone, especially the kids.

What a bone head amateur I am. My friend says it might be a year or more if then if we can all get together again. He says she feels terrible how things went and ended, as I do. She is very private he said she is very scared and didn't know what to do and only told him stuff because he was there from the beginning.

I have not tried to contact her for over a month and will continue not to as she wishes that I don't. For her it was about sex, but I think it ended with her emotions starting to get a little involved which she didn't want and that too scared her. For me, as much as I would love to have sex with her, it was emotional, just loving her, having a friend to talk to.

Any advice? Any chance we could get together again as friends? As more? Was this an affair or not? My friend says she misses getting together.
 

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The first part I would recommend is being honest with yourself.

"I have never had an affair."

Actually, yes you have based the actions you just stated.

"Any chance we could get together again as friends? As more? "

You are married..Did I miss something here? As more??:scratch: Run away and never look back my friend. You also need to confess this sin to the Lord and your wife. Relationships should be based on honesty and integrity. Right now your's is lacking this trait.

 
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I see this as being an affair. You thought about having sex twith her, and in Gods eyes you have already commited adultery. Talk to your wife about this. See will get mad, and upset. But see has every right to be. If you don't love your wife. then why did you marry her. If you loved her when you got married then that love is still there. You just have to find it again. It takes two to make a relationship work. Stop talking to your friends and talk to your wife. Go to counceling for help with your marriage if you need to. The other woman you can make your friend and nothing more. If you were to have sex with this woman and you find out it was just sex and not love. Think about what you just did to your family. Would you be able to look your wife in the eyes again. Would you be able to share a bed together without felling guity.
It hurts when you mess a relationship up for nothing. When you mess up you might relize how much you truly love you wife, and now there is nothing you can do to take back the dead that has been done. The pain your wife will feel is like nothing that you can imagine. I will pray for you, that you can talk to your wife about this. I will pray that you can make things right with her. And that everything is going to be ok with you guys. She needs to know what is going on.

A manswisdom gives him patience: it is to his glory to overlook an offense.
Proverbs 19:11
 
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Matthew 5:28
but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

Maybe not an affair, but surely it is adultery according to the scriptures. You should confess your sin and turn from it. I agree with Pray4Isrel that you did not mention bringing these actions into accordance with God's will. This is what you should be looking to do and not wondering if you can still see this girl. You are obviously a temptation to her and vice versa. There should not even be the question of should you see her, only the question of how to avoid ever being in this position again.
 
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It sounds to me that you had an emotional affair...which counts as an affair, so, yes, you have had an affair.

Stay away from the woman who you were seeing. This situation sounds like quicksand to me. You are MARRIED!!! Married!!! Doesn't that mean anything to you? Your wife and family should be the number one priority besides God...and I would really encourage you to NEVER speak to that woman again! I will say it once again, you are married...you have a WIFE and family. So what if you never see this woman again and leave things unsaid, you have a wife and family which are WAAAAAY more important than that woman.

Confess what you did to your wife and to God, and ask God for forgiveness...as well as your wife...tell your wife everything, don't leave bits and pieces out. Go to councelling A.S.A.P with your wife. YOu can never be friends with this woman because of what happened in the past, I mean you messed around (emotionally) with another woman...you can never be friends...it would only be too tempting to go out and mess around with her again.

It will take a LONG time for your wife to over this and forgive you...that is IF she even decides to. I have no sympathy for you or that woman. I feel bad for your wife and your kid(s)...you have ruined that circle of trust which may never be regained.

Also...see Pray4Isreal's post...she said it better than I ever could.
 
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I don't have a whole lot to add that hasn't been said already, but this was definately an affair. You held hands, you kissed, you progressed to heavy petting. I would be extremely PO'd if I found out my fiance was doing any of the above things, you don't have to have intercourse to have an affair. I hope that you get the help you need.
 
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Um. dude - you had an affair. How would you feel if your wife was "heavy petting" with someone else? right. thought so.

Desi - what are you smoking?

You and your wife haven't had sex in a year? I think this is more the problem than anything. Any man would start sniffing around.

Cut off all ties with this woman you had the affair with. You are attracted to her because of the void you are feeling with your wife. Chances are your wife is also feelig a lonely and vulnerable due to the attention you were paying to this woman instead of her.

Get yourselves to a Christian counselor and go save your marriage. You are fooling yourself if you think the same thing woudln't eventually happen with this woman you had an affair with. Every marriage struggles like this - its how you handle it that determines what will happen in the long run.

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Svt4Him said:
Why do I have the feeling I've read this exact thing before?
You have. It was in the removed forum "Christianity & Sexuality." Svt4Him, I always look forward to your responses to threads. In "What Is Love" you responded,
" Love is not a feeling, it's what keeps two people together when the feeling has gone. There are days I don't feel the love. I think it's a choice to do things that help another, body, soul and spirit."

I need to get back to loving my wife.
Thank you for the above.
 
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I have had no contact with this other woman now for four and a half months. I avoid her and she avoids me. I have since confessed this to God and my wife. While she was not happy she sees it as a wake up call.

My wife is almost never home. I realize now that I was seeking this other woman out to meet needs that were not being met at home. Job loss, caring for sick parents, an accident, child going off to school were all some of the many stressors going on at the time.

I know that major changes need to take place so this doesn't repeat. Simply doing whatever it takes to spend more time together will be a good start.

I thank you all for your comments. I need tough criticism and guidance right now and you have given that.
 
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I have had no contact with this other woman now for four and a half months. I avoid her and she avoids me. I have since confessed this to God and my wife. While she was not happy she sees it as a wake up call.

My wife is almost never home. I realize now that I was seeking this other woman out to meet needs that were not being met at home. Job loss, caring for sick parents, an accident, child going off to school were all some of the many stressors going on at the time.

I know that major changes need to take place so this doesn't repeat. Simply doing whatever it takes to spend more time together will be a good start.

I thank you all for your comments. I need tough criticism and guidance right now and you have given that.
I'm sorry, but am I the only person who feels this situation was used as nothing more than emotional blackmail against the wife? It was not your wife's fault you had an affair! I don't care if she gained 300 pounds, never combed her hair, and was never home. You should have communicated your issues with your wife's neglect to her personally instead of crying on a seductress's shoulder. No offense, but if I was your wife I would have seen it as a wake up call alright...a wake up call to contact my attorney and file for divorce.
 
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msjones21 said:
I'm sorry, but am I the only person who feels this situation was used as nothing more than emotional blackmail against the wife? It was not your wife's fault you had an affair! I don't care if she gained 300 pounds, never combed her hair, and was never home. You should have communicated your issues with your wife's neglect to her personally instead of crying on a seductress's shoulder. No offense, but if I was your wife I would have seen it as a wake up call alright...a wake up call to contact my attorney and file for divorce.
If his wife has been neglecting him and herself what should she expect? A wife should keep herself up and treat her man right.
 
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If his wife has been neglecting him and herself what should she expect? A wife should keep herself up and treat her man right.
A wife should maintain herself and be there for her husband; however, it doesn't give anyone the right to have an affair. I mean, turn it around. If his wife came to him and said "sorry, honey but because you've gotten a beer belly and you don't talk to me anymore and I've been fooling around with another man", I doubt he'd say "Awww honey, thank you for having an affair. It's really helped me to realize my flaws"?

Get real, Desi.
 
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msjones21 said:
A wife should maintain herself and be there for her husband; however, it doesn't give anyone the right to have an affair. I mean, turn it around. If his wife came to him and said "sorry, honey but because you've gotten a beer belly and you don't talk to me anymore and I've been fooling around with another man", I doubt he'd say "Awww honey, thank you for having an affair. It's really helped me to realize my flaws"?

Get real, Desi.
Jesus said men can divorce their wives for fornication. Men are given lots of latitude while women are not. Give the guy a break.
 
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Jesus said men can divorce their wives for fornication. Men are given lots of latitude while women are not. Give the guy a break.
Perhaps you should stop using selective vision and actually read your Bible. It specifically mentions that if a woman becomes an adulteress that the man may obtain a certificate of divorce. Give the guy a break? What? Give him permission to cheat?
 
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