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That was not a straw-man argument.
lol, Atheists only claim knowledge "when" they have it? So there are times they do not have knowledge.
That is kind of odd. Don't you think?
If there was not GOD, then Atheists would have to come from a random set of processes that are made from chemical reactions. If this is true, then our brain is made up of these chemical reactions by random processes therefore we can conclude that atheists do not even know if they are even here or if they ask the right questions to people because it is just a random process.
The reason it cannot be un-caused because there was first an effect.
You show him a claim that you have no basis for so why ask? Also, you ask him if he can see that, but you cannot see the illogical fallacies of inconsistency within the evolutionary worldview that is based upon the assumptions of scientists not "facts"
1. I never said I was right Rasta. The BIBLE is right.
2.You are assuming that i do not check out the stuff you all post. Well, yeah I do actually.
"The facts of evolution................." site is totally unreliable. It is out to date information, I found one claim that was claimed back in 1979. Now how reliable is that?
After all the years of evidence being found? Evolutionary theory changes according to the evidences found. But the Bible does not. Another inconsistency.
Note just because the words that come from scientists does not mean what they say is true. They do not know the past, they were not there to see it. No one in the world was there to see it. But yet again whenever I use this principle it goes right over your head. I will be proving some things in about weeks time.
You said you used to believe and used to be a christian, well if you now believe there is no GOD then you were never a christian anyway.
Moving on?
Do you believe Atheism is as close to the truth as it gets?What else would you like to discuss related to: "good reasons for being an atheist"?
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noun, plural -cies. 1. a deceptive, misleading, or false notion, belief, etc.: That the world is flat was at one time a popular fallacy. 2. a misleading or unsound argument. 3. deceptive, misleading, or false nature; erroneousness. 4. Logic. any of various types of erroneous reasoning that render arguments logically unsound. 5. Obsolete. deception.
A misconception is the same thing as "misleading". I know what a fallacy is Isambard.
First fail.
Oops, your ignorance is showing.I can careless what fallacy it is, but I know it is the biggest fallacy believed in the world today.
Considering you've effectively waved away all sources produced (all of them by scientists), I find this statement hilarious and wrong.You are wrong, scientists are now figuring out that whenever you take evidence and look at through the biblical creation worldview it makes sense and lines up with the bible.
LOL. Wait wait, you were lecturing me on how I dont know about creationism and the bible, and yet you have yet to finish reading the bible?! LOLOLOLOL.You said I do not even knwo whats in my scriptures. Well, that is where you are assuming that I have read the whole bible and know everything there is in it, therefore you cannot make such a claim. You have not learned "everything" about evolution there is to be. Your assuming this which makes it wrong.
Holy run on sentences batman! And wait, didn't you just appeal to scientists a few paragraphs ago? lolYou say my questions are ignorant rants according to you and your evolutionary worldview, because you know you cannot give a logical explanation for such claims that evolutionists make without being irrational and inconsistent within a worldview because it is based upon the assumptions of scientists who were not there.
A book talking about unicorns, dragons, and magic says I'm denying "the truth (TM)" to follow my own evil desires. I think I'd be more effected if Frodo chastized me. I at least liked the fantasy elements in LotRBut my basis are truly account of your ignorance, according to 2 Peter 3:3-7. it says people are willingly ignorant of these things just like you all are being.
A full stop or period (.) (sometimes stop, full point, or dot) is the punctuation mark commonly placed at the end of several different types of sentences in English and many other languages. A full stop consists of a small dot placed at the end of a line of text, such as at the end of a sentence.You say i contradict myself, but I am really suprised at how faulty your reasoning skills are because if you had good logical interpretation of words you would know that I do not contradict myelf, because if you have ever heard of "sarcasm" then you would know that I do not. I was showing the absurdity of evolution.
You say plants have life, but they do not.
"The Hebrew word nephesh chayyahits referring to living souls, and the Bible doesnt apply that to plants. Plants you can think of as biological machines. Theyre not alive in a biblical sense, animals are and human beings are." -- Jason Lisle (AiG)
Another ignorant rant, how droll.<snipped>
Do you believe Atheism is as close to the truth as it gets?
You mean Occam's Razor and proper as well as consistant use of scientific models and theories?First I'd like to say you are beyond help..you might as well claim you don't even exist with the logic you use...
Atheism is not a; philosophy, ideology, or positive statement. By definition it can't offer anything then just a lack of belief in little purple flying toads offers nothing either.The point of my posts wasn't to show whether or not Atheism can offer us anything on existence. It can't..it can only offer us ignorance and guesses.
Awsome. So you're relying on special-pleading then eh?As for what brought God into existence...The answer is simpleNothing brought Him into existence...He has always existed. He is the uncaused cause. Now just take a momment to think about it. YOU CANNOT HAVE An infinete regression of causes..it's like having an infinite amount of dominos falling one after another. If you go back infinetly in time to try and find the first domino that started it all. ...you'd NEVER find it. Because..you'd have to cross an infinite amount of time to get to that which is impossible to do. It also means, that you can't have an infinite regression of causes. Furthermore, this would mean that there would never be a first cause. If there is no first cause, then there can't be a second or a third and so on. And you wouldn't have any of them falling at all. But since they are falling there had to be a first cause...that itself...was un-caused...that started the whole thing moving at a specific time in the past.
As my previous replies to you have demonstrated (if you bothered actually reading them), positing your God as a first-cause is superflous.So it is with the universe, it was caused to exist at a specific point in time. The un-caused cause is God, who decided to create the universe and who, as the Bible says in psalm 90:2, "is from everlasting to everlasting"
You can't answer the question...you and me both know this.She hasn't, nor can she, give consent.
You can't answer the question...you and me both know this.What approach is this?
You know this is an opinion right?
It doesn't show.
You are all over the place. Are older claims less reliable than new claims? What does that say about the Bible?
LOL!! This is a strength, not a weakness. The ability to adapt in face of new facts and evidence is science's strongest quality.
It does not go over my head at all. Your position is mind numbingly simple to understand. Your reasoning is baseless, and without merit.
No True Scottsman fallacy. (look it up if you have to)
What do you base your morals and ethics on?The question was answered. You asked why it is wrong. Rape is easy. It implies that it is against the will of an individual. We are individuals and can relate to having our will violated. Nobody wants their will violated.
The question was answered. You asked why it is wrong. Rape is easy. It implies that it is against the will of an individual. We are individuals and can relate to having our will violated. Nobody wants their will violated.
What do you base your morals and ethics on?
What religion would you choose to adhere to if you wanted to?I think we've covered this ground already. It is based on the collective good of human society and reckognizing ourselves as a member of that collective.
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