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tangled

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Are "other gods" real? Or just a figment of their imagination?

Then he took his firstborn son, who was to succeed him as king, and offered him as a sacrifice on the city wall. The fury against Israel was great; they withdrew and returned to their own land. 2 kings 3:27

The Moabite god was Chemosh, it seems. Did the king sacrifice to Chemosh? Was the "fury against Israel" from Chemosh?
 
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Of course the Bible is pretty clear that there's only one God. But I would think that would be clear anyway. How can there be more than one creator and ultimate authority?

Other gods could be misunderstandings of the one God, illusion, or satanic deception. I don't take a dogmatic position that every one is the same.
 
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Of course the Bible is pretty clear that there's only one God. But I would think that would be clear anyway. How can there be more than one creator and ultimate authority?

Other gods could be misunderstandings of the one God, illusion, or satanic deception. I don't take a dogmatic position that every one is the same.

I agree that there's only one God. I saw somebody using that verse as a way to explain that "other gods" have real power and I was wondering if I was missing something. I'm still wondering actually. Thanks for the input, though.
 
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Compare how the New Testament speaks of unseen forces that oppress and harass people. One is called evil spirits, and another is called idol. One has statues built to it, and babies sacrificed to it, while the other is allowed to victimize people's minds and bodies.

Look at one of the Hebrew words for idol:

"of nought, good for nothing, worthless "

Strong's Definition

"From an unused root perhaps meaning properly to pant (hence to exert oneself, usually in vain; to come to naught); strictly nothingness; also trouble, vanity, wickedness; specifically an idol: - affliction, evil, false, idol, iniquity, mischief, mourners (-ing), naught, sorrow, unjust, unrighteous, vain, vanity, wicked (-ness.) Compare H369. "

And another:

"from an unused root perhaps meaning properly, to pant (hence, to exert oneself, usually in vain"

Strong's Definition

"Apparently from H408; good for nothing, by analogy vain or vanity; specifically an idol: - idol, no value, thing of nought. "

Brown-Driver-Briggs' Definition

trouble, wickedness, sorrow
  1. trouble, sorrow
  2. idolatry
  3. trouble of iniquity, wickedness

These do not sound like static or imaginary names. People through history have reported of being harassed by voices. They do things to appease these voices, out of fear or a desire to gain power.

Now look at what other religions throughout the world consider deities. There are thousands. They are not all the same personality, and have different histories. People have believed and feared and shaped their lives around an insistence on their existence. If these forces or personalities do not exist, then for practical purposes they still carry an impact on people as though they did. People allow themselves to be controlled by them.

It is clear in the Bible that our God Jehovah is not in competition with lesser beings. He created all. Free choice opened the possibility for fallen angels, so free choice would open the possibility for all sorts of things that chose a darker path.
 
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tangled said in post #1:

Are "other gods" real?

Yes (but lower case only), when they're devils (1 Cor. 10:20) or humans (Jn. 10:34).

Or just a figment of their imagination?

Yes, when they're neither devils nor humans.

The Moabite god was Chemosh, it seems.

Yes (1 Kin. 11:33), and the Ammonite god was also Chemosh (Judg. 11:14,24).

Did the king sacrifice to Chemosh?

Possibly, for people can sacrifice to devils (1 Cor. 10:20).

Was the "fury against Israel" from Chemosh?

Possibly, for devils can have fury (Rev. 12:12).

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tangled said in post #3:

I saw somebody using that verse as a way to explain that "other gods" have real power . . .

Devils have real power (Rev. 2:10, Eph. 6:12, Lk. 13:16), and humans have real power (Rom. 13:4), but (upper case) God's/Jesus' power is greater (Lk. 10:17-20), just as the power of even God's angels is greater (Rev. 12:7-9, Dan. 10:13).
 
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