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LittleNipper

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The original readers didn't understand that. You understand it the way you do because you know the truth of how things really are. It wouldn't have occurred to an ancient Israelite to question it - yes, there were really pillars; yes, the sun spun around the earth; yes, the sun and moon both produce light. Why would they believe any differently?

True, they wrote from their perspectives, but that's the point; they didn't have some supernatural understanding about how the universe really worked. They spoke from their limited level of understanding of how it worked to deliver a spiritual message. The fact they didn't get it "right" scientifically hardly matters, as it does not alter the messages.
And they are still very true to this day. From the perspective of earth, the sun rises in the morning and sets in the evening. The only one who would see things any differently would be an astronaut in outer space. There is no lie or misguiding ---- it is a reality to anyone standing on the earth and the meaning is very clear (one day).
 
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The short answer is, neither one of us are Gnostics. However, we both have attributes that can be compared to Gnostic attributes.

It's kind of the Christian version of Godwin's law...all internet arguments will eventually have one side comparing the other to Hitler. :)
Hiter believed in genetic superiority as the goal of the progressive evolutionary processes (survival of the fittest).
 
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Hiter believed in genetic superiority as the goal of the progressive evolutionary processes (survival of the fittest).
He also claimed to be doing the work of God. Read Mein Kampf.
Hitler was a kook. Appealing to him as any sort of authority on evolution or Christianity is crazy.
 
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He also claimed to be doing the work of God. Read Mein Kampf.
Hitler was a kook. Appealing to him as any sort of authority on evolution or Christianity is crazy.
And yet he was once a great leader of a great nation. Could it happen again? The Bible speaks of the Anti-Christ ----- I believe so!
 
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He also claimed to be doing the work of God. Read Mein Kampf.
That in and of itself isn't unusual. Most 'kooks' somehow are claiming the same thing. Where we distinguish the 'kooks' from the true believers is looking at their fruit. Who is it that trusts His Word and isn't looking for ways to manipulate it to conform it to their own way of thinking? When you find someone interested in that, then you've found a true believer.
 
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He also claimed to be doing the work of God. Read Mein Kampf.
Hitler was a kook. Appealing to him as any sort of authority on evolution or Christianity is crazy.

Hmmm... I don't think Hitler wrote Mein Kampf. I believe it was a Jesuit. They are the real (human) power behind the scenes."The Fuhrer had come to power, thanks to the votes of the Catholic Zentrum, only five years before [1933], but most of the objectives cynically revealed in Mein Kampf were already realized;
this book . . . was written by the Jesuit [controlled] Father [Bernhardt] Stempfle and signed by Hitler. For . . . it was the Society of Jesus which perfected the famous Pan-German programme as laid out in this book, and the Fuhrer endorsed it." {10}
[Emphasis added] Edmond Paris,
1965 French Historian
The Secret History of the Jesuits

Take from that what you will.

And so, appealing to them as an authority on true Christianity is a joke. Although, they would know a lot about evolution I'm sure...
 
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Hmmm...
And so, appealing to them as an authority on true Christianity is a joke. Although, they would know a lot about evolution I'm sure...

I don't know about the ghostwriting scenario, but the level of knowledge about evolution in Mein Kampf is also a joke.
 
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And so, appealing to them as an authority on true Christianity is a joke. Although, they would know a lot about evolution I'm sure...
Why? Why would the Jesuit writer in your conspiracy theory (which I don't buy into) know nothing about Christianity, and a lot about evolution?
FSTDT.
 
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And they are still very true to this day. From the perspective of earth, the sun rises in the morning and sets in the evening. The only one who would see things any differently would be an astronaut in outer space. There is no lie or misguiding ---- it is a reality to anyone standing on the earth and the meaning is very clear (one day).

You are soooo...close.....

The bible was written FROM THE PERSPECTIVE of the writers.
 
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You are soooo...close.....

The bible was written FROM THE PERSPECTIVE of the writers.
The Bible was written by GOD through inspired men for the benefit of the reader on a human level. I might also say that during HIS ministry JESUS also brought clarification where needed.
 
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