God's Unconditional & Conditional Love

[wayfaring man]

Wise words. Yes focus entirely on God, on his love, on his judgements. We should not judged, lest we be judged, for in the way we judge others we shall be judged. As we measure it shall be measured us.

God knew who would be his from the very beginning. They suffer and satan tries to destroy them, but Jesus has power over all sin. God is the only one who accepts us completely. It's not a license to sin of course, it's a call for us to do our best. We are perfected in Christ in that he has died for all of our imperfections. That we may embrace the spirit of holiness with grace and purify ourselves to produce the fruits of the spirit.

Yea,

For the love of Christ constrains us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:
And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. <-----> 2nd Corinthians 5:14-21

May The Name of The Lord Be Praised !

wm

 

[wayfaring man]

Sounds good to me crossword. Very good. Thank you Wayfaring man for the love threads as i call them, and thank you for your patience with me. I know it must have taken allot to put up with me. And thank you for allowing me to hijack the other thread. Its been a true blessing to me and others i think. God bless you brother. Truly you are a blessing to many i think.

You're Welcome !

The goodness of God leads us to repentance. ( Romans 2:4 )

And when we lay God's goodness to heart, it is reflected in our lives towards each other; thus putting an end to sinful strife, ill will, and the vain and profane babbling/bickering such instigate and employ.

To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.
For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another.
But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life. <-----> Titus 3:2-7

May The Lord Be Pleased !

wm

 

[Jeshu]

You're Welcome !

The goodness of God leads us to repentance. ( Romans 2:4 )

And when we lay God's goodness to heart, it is reflected in our lives towards each other; thus putting an end to sinful strife, ill will, and the vain and profane babbling/bickering such instigate and employ.

To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.
For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another.
But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life. <-----> Titus 3:2-7

May The Lord Be Pleased !

wm

Glimmers of His radiance are clearly showing, His footsteps so near to see.

Let us all submit to His love in referent fear and seek life for all our Heart to be in His courts.

An article I once wrote about the Job ahead.

Serving God whole heartedly.

Our being consists of more than the here and now - indeed many moments of self awareness, many different times of personalities traits, of moments in good and in bad. For both when we are awake and when we are asleep our spirit shapes and is being shaped. Though we have lived the past it is still living within us in the present and will influence the future – true image of God to be!

Truly our being is as mysterious and vast as the universe. What I mean to say with this is that our soul makes us up in its entirety, every moment of our existence both good and bad. All these times we ruled ourself with our contemporary and mood shifting sense of self – our I am, interacts with us in everyday life – even if we have forgotten the moments, for in our soul they are written as it were on a 'scroll of remembrance' – and influence our thoughts, choices and decision making processes and builds our sense of self, with shifting shades of light and darkness. We are all children of Time.

If you are anything like me then you will cycle up and down in your faith life. In my Teenage years I was more down on faith then up. Consequently my deeds reflected my spiritual mood. Though I 'served' the Lord in some respects, in that I believed in Him, yet I had major outbursts of living it up, getting drunk, chasing the girls, wildly spending my money and experimenting with sex. Ouch that hurt! That hurt a lot, especially when the mood cycled past and I couldn't get into contact with God no more, had an empty wallet and had made people angry or disappointed with me – or at least that is how I often experienced it.

What I try to say with this is that often we are all divided up inside our heart into many different sections of self, we rule ourselves through different moods, likes and times and consequently make different choices all the time, some paradoxically opposed to the other. As it is in this world so it is often in us. Much division, conflict, wars and rumours of wars, light, darkness, good and bad! In truth we are are woven with many strains, colours and sizes of thread.

Don't you reckon...?

Then what about the times we hate, even ourself, what about those times we are angry and fill ourself up with angry thoughts even about our loved ones? What about racial hatred or social dislikes? What about our fantasies, fears and wants? What about loving loved ones? What about just decisions? Now I haven't even talked about the place the lie and dishonesty has in our life, and please consider all the junk we have stored? (Social, political and religious manipulation made sure of that! (Just think about Hollywood for example, or the forced 'education' of our young.)

As you can see we are complex individuals hopelessly segregated and sometimes completely taken up by the needs and demands of mere flesh, the world and Satan - and consequently torn apart by the forces to be, often almost unrecognisable to who we truly should be – not reflecting God's image and as we know such is called sin!

Not only dwells there all kind of potential wrong within, we also have a 'good self' - truly a whole a clan of attitudes, morals, values and beliefs influencing our decision making processes. How do we rule with our 'good self', our inner king or queen? Do we rule in loving truth? Even the times we are walking through sin? Struggle with God, self or others. Are we trying to annihilate others, denying them the right to be as they are, or deny parts of our own God given personality at such times? Perhaps we rule in the pharisee style? A life full of do and don't dos. Or maybe we don't care much about our not so nice selves and judge ourselves within - and so live fragmented lives. Some of us even turn into full-time slaves of personal desires, wants and dislikes, worldly influences and become Satan's puppet on strings, stuck with burning desires, denial of truth - spiritual genocide within!

Nevertheless we are supposed to govern life, not be a slave to it. Remember, we are allowed to rule with Christ? Mastering life has always been the offer of Christ. Jesus wants us to rule our being in the Spirit of love and truth – both our good and bad times – He wants to set us free from our struggles and stop the internal genocide, and shape our being into newness of life. He wants to do it through rebuilding us in loving truth.

Honestly true! He wants to love our sin out of us and rebuild the lies that make up our own private selves with truth! He wants to make sure that what is opposed to you will benefit you in end. He wants to save you, not bind you to religious or not so religious points of views – not even your own – but grant you true life through the Spirit of loving truth.

Christ invites us to come and bring our complete self to Him, both good and bad and let Him decide what is just, good and right for us. Oh He knows it so much better than we ever could, and patiently teaches us the way we should go. The battles we have then are our own hesitations in letting go of our lives. Indeed inner wrong will set itself up against us. Nevertheless love in/for truth wins the day (Revelation.) This is the right way to battle – to stay in Christ's love and to stay or return into His truth always, so wrongdoing dies out of us, time and again, while loving and truthfulness rebuild us into who we are of old.

For if the truth that Christ died for our sin stands central, then spiritual rest and thankfulness of heart will grow inside of us as a bulwark never shaken, no matter how good or bad our physical life is going, spiritually we shall be at peace.

Can you see that Christ wants to save us from the very forces that conquer our life time and again? Freedom is what Jesus brings and wholeness of inner being is what He teaches us all about. All we need to do is trust our Saviour and surrender our whole hearts to Him. Let His Word and Spirit dwell richly in us so they can transform us into this wonderful newness of life. A life which is learning to walk in truth and in love and so truly be in the image of our Creator, however small in the imprint.

Becoming Christ like is what that means. Christ walked the truth to a tee and loved perfectly well the whole way through. He loved God the Father with His whole heart. He is One with God. So for us to find ourselves in a loving and living relationship with our Heavenly Father we need Jesus to lead us there. The Bible teaches that only the pure shall see God. From ourselves we cannot offer much purity, I found, for we are not like Christ and we, despite our greatest effort, are not pure. I'm assured that nobody can have Christ-likeness in self, but those who have put their faith in Jesus Christ and let themselves be let by His Spirit – the Spirit of Truth who brings us Love, as His greatest gift, or rather brings us unto the Way of Love - as that is the Truth.

 

[godisreal36]

I failed to love fully today. I spoke truth but not in complete love. I should have become this persons friend first and their Judge second. Although they were wrong, we all are at times, I think i can handle being told the truth most of the time yet this doesn't mean all people can handle it. I should have become a friend first, then tried to speak with complete love. I had no right in testing this persons faith as i did. Testing was not my intention yet i fear that's what Ive done, Love is patient, i was not, love is kind, i was not. Love speaks the truth but not in the way i did. Although i wasn't as bad as i could have been, i still wasn't as good as i should have been either. I should have been a friend first, then after trying that for a sufficient amount of time, if all else failed including prayer for this person and waiting on the lord to help (patience yet again), then maybe tried my approach. I must remember this if i am to grow in love. My lord Jesus is who i failed to love also by failing this person. I will not forget. With the Lords Help i now know what to pray for concerning love. If i lack anything, i should pray and ask the Lord for it. Praise our Lord for opening my eyes. If any should read this, please pray for this person that i failed to completely love. God is able. No one is good, no not one. All things work for the Good of those who love God. Please Pray for this person i failed to love properly. Thank you.

 

[Jeshu]

I failed to love fully today. I spoke truth but not in complete love. I should have become this persons friend first and their Judge second. Although they were wrong, we all are at times, I think i can handle being told the truth most of the time yet this doesn't mean all people can handle it. I should have become a friend first, then tried to speak with complete love. I had no right in testing this persons faith as i did. Testing was not my intention yet i fear that's what Ive done, Love is patient, i was not, love is kind, i was not. Love speaks the truth but not in the way i did. Although i wasn't as bad as i could have been, i still wasn't as good as i should have been either. I should have been a friend first, then after trying that for a sufficient amount of time, if all else failed including prayer for this person and waiting on the lord to help (patience yet again), then maybe tried my approach. I must remember this if i am to grow in love. My lord Jesus is who i failed to love also by failing this person. I will not forget. With the Lords Help i now know what to pray for concerning love. If i lack anything, i should pray and ask the Lord for it. Praise our Lord for opening my eyes. If any should read this, please pray for this person that i failed to completely love. God is able. No one is good, no not one. All things work for the Good of those who love God. Please Pray for this person i failed to love properly. Thank you.

The best is not to follow your mind but The Living Word in your heart.

This brings out all your aberration, rough edges as well as massive amounts of digging ore - a little gold - and a lot of dross.

All Good!

To judge yourself, or think that you failing and perhaps even thwarted God's truth - is not as you ought to think - all has already been paid for - it is for us to let faith in God's love and hope in better leads us The Way so we experience life at The Right side of things in Jesus and not still under judgement.

So please do keep eating mercy - and continue to let The Word expose your wrongs as they come out!

Follow The Word and don't get taken over by the spirits that are anti-Christ.

Love for wrong!
and
hate and judgement of God's own
quals
Burning Good and Burning Bad!

So please do keep the lid on wilful sin - rather place the basket, with her in it, in Babylon where utter destruction and everlasting desolation awaits the wicked harlot tempting. To be burned with fire and eaten alive is her future and all who have life in her wicked schemes. Unfaithful love - loving wrong - was my worst enemy I found.What agony those scorpions stings and then the burning fire on the way down? Good riddance of bad music I think now but the first few times Jesus got me away from those wicked perishing only just in time for they had me so blinded.

So you failing to love rightly - is her work with in you being exposed by The Word. The Wicked will accuse you, the accuser will pound and belittle and scorn you, and The Beasts will deem you unworthy and get you thrown out - perhaps even killed - where all you had is lost including knowing you not present in life any longer (Rev 2.) They do this because they want you to pay a price -which is their control - their strings to steer you well away from God - where your inner love may not be heeded any more because of personal wrongs in it - and Christ has not given you forgiveness, nor grace and you may not have faith in grace.

Especially in the place of your heart where Satan has his throne, and Christ's faithful witness has been killed - this is a place of much hardship and only complete obedience to Christ's love can get you through those 10 days of trial - time and again - I suffered defeat here in the past - letting my weakest self - my big ego take off with the goodies - always this was the problem behind my failures to love properly - all part of the king who demands a price - Daniel 11 The book of Daniel explains it all very nicely in Daniel 7-12 I found - a perfect spiritual blueprint of our life when ruled by sin.

So be prepared brother - time and again His wheels will roll past - keep your eyes open and jump in Jesus' arms the moment the wicked begin throwing rocks at you - for you know you have drifted off the straight path - where no wild animals are. For can you get good food from thorns and thistles? So we better make sure the fruits taste nice and bring lasting benefit.


Hold onto Good and let go of mixing Good and Bad is the simply rule of Christ but let Christ Sword split you from your life in the camp of God's enemies - until you and all your household is Home - and not one of your own is missing but The wicked are all dead and gone! You will be truly free then in ALL your HEART and rule with Christ and the 144000 Holy ones from above. Blessed are those who participate in the first resurrection the second death shall have no power over them.

 

[wayfaring man]

Glimmers of His radiance are clearly showing, His footsteps so near to see.

Let us all submit to His love in referent fear and seek life for all our Heart to be in His courts.

Yea,

Were it not for The Lord's Goodness and Grace we would have all been slain long ago, therefore every breath we now take is a gift of Christ's Mercy and God's Love.

Except the LORD of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, and we should have been like unto Gomorrah. <-----> Isaiah 1:9

May we seek Him yet more and more !

wm

 

[wayfaring man]

I failed to love fully today. I spoke truth but not in complete love. I should have become this persons friend first and their Judge second. Although they were wrong, we all are at times, I think i can handle being told the truth most of the time yet this doesn't mean all people can handle it. I should have become a friend first, then tried to speak with complete love. I had no right in testing this persons faith as i did. Testing was not my intention yet i fear that's what Ive done, Love is patient, i was not, love is kind, i was not. Love speaks the truth but not in the way i did. Although i wasn't as bad as i could have been, i still wasn't as good as i should have been either. I should have been a friend first, then after trying that for a sufficient amount of time, if all else failed including prayer for this person and waiting on the lord to help (patience yet again), then maybe tried my approach. I must remember this if i am to grow in love. My lord Jesus is who i failed to love also by failing this person. I will not forget. With the Lords Help i now know what to pray for concerning love. If i lack anything, i should pray and ask the Lord for it. Praise our Lord for opening my eyes. If any should read this, please pray for this person that i failed to completely love. God is able. No one is good, no not one. All things work for the Good of those who love God. Please Pray for this person i failed to love properly. Thank you.

It's good to recognize where we need help. And good to seek The Lord for the help we need.

Also, offering corrective advice/instruction is often a delicate matter, where offense is easily taken...especially if one's efforts are perceived as being unloving.

Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.
Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ.
For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceives himself.
But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another.
For every man shall bear his own burden. <-----> Galatians 6:1-5

May The Lord's Spirit Be our Teacher !

wm

 

[godisreal36]

God is in control, its all Good. Mistakes are bound to happen. We'll get there with the Lords help. I take time to praise the Lord, pray to God, but not read the Word enough. Pat Robertson reminded me. Tomorrow i will take more time to read the Word. I thought i was missing something important. i just listened to this CD he sent me a couple years back entitled a higher calling, TV preachers are not bad teachers at all, God is in control. I highly recommend a higher calling if you can still get it, very good instruction for new born again Christians. Good for anyone actually.

 

[Jeshu]

Things are moving!

We are having a meeting next week to discuss what the troubles are. I'm really happy with this development, for at least we can discuss it this way.

God is moving us to follow Him

 

[godisreal36]

Praise the Lord for my brother Jeshu. Glad to see things going well for you. Things are going well for me also, a few waves in my ocean, but God is in control, even when I make mistakes. Have a nice day everyone.

 

[Jeshu]

Praise the Lord for my brother Jeshu. Glad to see things going well for you. Things are going well for me also, a few waves in my ocean, but God is in control, even when I make mistakes. Have a nice day everyone.

Oh well it was the other love thread I should be writing to about all this.

Have a great day walking with Jesus and loving ALL in ALL above ALL