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So whether or not someone uses the KJV is completely irrelevant.
You do realize I was talking about the mystery of the strings of text; threaded in the KJV Bible with the mystery of God.
But yeah, sure. The only thing that matters is you and our new commandment, "That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another." John 13:34
 
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You do realize I was talking about the mystery of the strings of text; threaded in the KJV Bible with the mystery of God.
But yeah, sure. The only thing that matters is you and our new commandment, "That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another." John 13:34
Where does the KJV mention that there are these important strings of text?
 
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Are you afraid to just look at the KJV Bible?
LOL...I am humored at what you have purposed...and I tend to agree. If God were to hit "Refresh" every generation or so, I think we would all be surprised...after all, that was then, and this is now.

However...it is not God who changes with the times...but people. But that is not to say that the interpretation of scriptures should not change...because the interpretation of previous generations could very well have been wrong, or even allowed to go as error by God. We need to factor in that it was God himself who confused all language (at the tower of Babel), fully intending that His word would not return void...in spite of misinterpretations.

So, then...the KJV: a milestone for sure. But perhaps the only modern translation that was approved by God through His providence over the matters of history. Modern intellect is certainly no substitute for the will of God over His word. Indeed, the same sort of blindness placed upon Israel, is evident in Christendom. LOL
 
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Where does the KJV mention that there are these important strings of text?
It's a mystery. You have to find them yourself, 1 Corinthians 2:7.
 
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It's a mystery. You have to find them yourself, 1 Corinthians 2:7.
Another non-answer. You want to have a discussion, you set the parameters, but you can't defend either.
 
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Another non-answer. You want to have a discussion, you set the parameters, but you can't defend either.
I can show them to you.
 
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Isaiah 14:12-14, Revelation 2:12-13 and John 8:44. Revelation 2:12-13 uses the names “Pergamos,” meaning “height or elevation,” to relate to the idea of height or elevation, in Isaiah 14:13, and the name “Antipas,” meaning “like the father” to relate to, “your father,” in John 8:44. John 8:44 uses, “murderer from the beginning” to relate to, “Antipas" and "faithful martyr,” and “abode not in the truth” to relate to “where Satan’s seat is,” in Revelation 2:13.
Notice how the strings are made with, "few words", Ephesians 3:3. The whole KJV Bible is of the same story, but from different perspectives, 2 Peter 1:20. There is one story for those hearing the words then and an entirely different story for us reading the text today, which may include 21st Century ideas.
 
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Isaiah 14:12-14, Revelation 2:12-13 and John 8:44. Revelation 2:12-13 uses the names “Pergamos,” meaning “height or elevation,” to relate to the idea of height or elevation, in Isaiah 14:13, and the name “Antipas,” meaning “like the father” to relate to, “your father the devil,” in John 8:44. John 8:44 uses, “murderer from the beginning” to relate to, “wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr,” and “abode not in the truth” to relate to “where Satan’s seat is,” in Revelation 2:13.
Notice how the strings are made with, "few words", Ephesians 3:3. The whole KJV Bible is of the same story, but from different perspectives, 2 Peter 1:20. There is one story for those hearing the words then and an entirely different story for us reading the text today, which may include 21st Century ideas.
There is one in 2 Peter 3:3-8, Hebrews 5:11-14 and Isaiah 28:9-10. Some of the key words are: milk, teachers, teach knowledge; willingly ignorant, and murderer from the beginning: to name a few.
 
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There is one in 2 Peter 3:3-8, Hebrews 5:11-14 and Isaiah 28:9-10. Key words are, milk, teach knowledge; willingly ignorant, murderer and teachers: to name a few.
Only God could do this, praise the LORD!!!
 
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Isaiah 14:12-14, Revelation 2:12-13 and John 8:44. Revelation 2:12-13 uses the names “Pergamos,” meaning “height or elevation,” to relate to the idea of height or elevation, in Isaiah 14:13, and the name “Antipas,” meaning “like the father” to relate to, “your father,” in John 8:44. John 8:44 uses, “murderer from the beginning” to relate to, “Antipas" and "faithful martyr,” and “abode not in the truth” to relate to “where Satan’s seat is,” in Revelation 2:13.
Notice how the strings are made with, "few words", Ephesians 3:3. The whole KJV Bible is of the same story, but from different perspectives, 2 Peter 1:20. There is one story for those hearing the words then and an entirely different story for us reading the text today, which may include 21st Century ideas.
The string beginning in Revelation 2:12 appears to be in regards to the Creation from everlasting, and the original sin. From the beginning, Lucifer is a liar, and murdered Antipas, "the deep", when he said in his heart that he would, "ascend into heaven."
 
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This string appears to be in regards to the Creation from everlasting, and the original sin. Lucifer is a liar and murdered Antipas, "the deep", from the beginning, when he said in his heart that he would "ascend into heaven."
The string beginning in Jeremiah 4:23 appears to be about Adam, on the first day, after Adam died.
 
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The issue is the mystery of the strings of text, threaded with the mystery of God.
Apparently you have not made yourself clear or convincing. Want to give it another try? You have the floor...and, uh, if at all possible, I wouldn't quote yourself.
 
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