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In the case of seeing what the bible is saying on creation days, it is the more honest position to admit that the bible does talk of a six day creation of all things.
Take it up with @Aman777 -- He's claiming millions of years, and he knows the Bible better than you...
How many sound minds did you speak to to come to that conclusion?
How would I know exactly how Adam looked? You tell us how Jesus looked at 11?I will answer your question when you tell us IF Adam looked like we do when he was formed from the dust. Did he look like Lord God/Jesus or did he look like he was made of FIRE? Scripturally?
I do not remain in Genesis. I live now, thanks.Amen, and we remain on the 6th Day/Age today UNLESS one of you can tell us WHEN the prophecy of Genesis 1:28-31 happened in the past. You cannot since prophecy is the account of a future happening. Amen?
I see. So you really thought all that planet of the apes and garden of eden world under the sea was biblical? Ha.Take it up with @Aman777 -- He's claiming millions of years, and he knows the Bible better than you...
How many sound minds did you speak to to come to that conclusion?
How would I know exactly how Adam looked? You tell us how Jesus looked at 11?
The firmament was much less in diameter than 75 miles since it fit into a Lake with a maximum width of 75 miles.
Lake Van, Turkish Van Gölü, lake, largest body of water in Turkey and the second largest in the Middle East. The lake is located in the region of eastern Anatolia near the border of Iran. It covers an area of 1,434 square miles (3,713 square km) and is more than 74 miles (119 km) across at its widest point.
Strike one.
Tell it to Lake Van | lake, Turkey.
Strike two.
The firmament was placed in the midst of water (underwater) and Adam's Earth was inside the firmament, Albert. Without the firmament, Adam's Earth would be totally destroyed in water. Strike Three
I have NEVER posted such a view but some are so desperate to refute me, they will try anything. Strike Four
Since Adam was made BEFORE plants, herbs, rain and Trees, Genesis 2:4-9, on the first Earth, before the beginning (Big Bang) of our Universe, which happened on the THIRD Day, he lived with Jesus for some 14 Billion years BEFORE Eve was made. Don't you know that Adam lived in a perfect immortal body, BEFORE he sinned?
Strike Five.
Depends of how large the Universe is and Adam's was less than 75 miles wide since it fit into Lake Van, Turkey, which is 119 km wide which is more than 74 miles wide. Do you EVER get anything correct? Strike six. Is this Trump?
Stick around and you will see that the Bible is blasphemed more than God. Most unbelievers and God haters use the Bible as a bludgeon.
I do not remain in Genesis. I live now, thanks.
No one said Adam would do all that stuff in a week. The general plan was for man and beast to move out and multiply and if Adam had have obeyed God, the subdue thingie would have happened then, rather than the fall.
It is one thing to offer some spiritualized idea we are in some final day of creation, but another thing to deny the finished creation talked about in Gen.
It was a done deal.
The plan of Salvation was not finished.
Just so we're clear -- are the shattered remains of the firmament in the lake or under it?
And if the Ark isn't in Lake Van, where did it end up? It could only have gone so far; portage seems impractical.
The bottom of the solid firmament is beneath 11k years of volcanic debris, under the water in the Lake.
It was probably burned for wood, long ago. IF it survives today, we can all find out what "gopher wood" is since it does NOT grow on our planet.
I suspect that gopher wood is hollow since the wood we have today could never float with the dimensions (450 ft long) listed.
And the remains of the dome?
But where was it burned?
Hollow wood? must have been an interesting tree...
The dome was transparent since Adam's world had NO Sun. The light came from the Multiverse through water. Unless the dome was transparent, there would have been no light on Adam's Earth. I suppose the dome is with the rest of the firmament.
Along the shore of the Lake. Everyone's too busy searching the tops of the mountains to look along the Lake.
Like reeds or tall grass which grows in wet areas. If you don't believe me ask the folks in Kentucky IF they would put their Ark into water.
4 October 2018 Aman777: Ignores his delusions about the firmament, "Adam's Earth", "23 billion years ago", etc.The firmament was much less in diameter than 75 miles ...
16 August 2018 Aman777: Give the Biblical verse stating that the Ark is in Lake Van, Turkey...., leaving the 450 ft long covered Ark in the Lake.
False, or Jesus would NOT have had to die in God's mind BEFORE the foundation of the world.
Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Not so, since Genesis 2:2-3 clearly states that God rests from ALL of His work on the 7th Day. God's work is creating and today He is STILL creating sinners in Christ Spiritually. When He rests (ceases to create) it will be because His creation has been made perfect and filled with it's inhabitants (host) which includes the last sinner to be saved.
He rested from the work mentioned which was creation week. It is not sound to imagine that means He died or went fishing or went on strike and would not be alive and well and working.
If what you said were true, we could close the Churches since God rested from ALL of His work of creating a long time ago.
Don't conflate the creation week with all creation of anything ever!Just ask any Gospel preacher if it is too late to be created in Christ Spiritually. God's work of creating sinners in Christ Spiritually continues today, at the end of the present 6th Day, the Day of Salvation.
4 October 2018 Aman777: "prophecy of Genesis 1:28-31" lies (this is God giving blessings, commands and gifts).Amen, and we remain on the 6th Day/Age today UNLESS one of you can tell us WHEN the prophecy of Genesis 1:28-31 happened in the past. You cannot since prophecy is the account of a future happening.
..Adam's world had NO Sun. The light came from the Multiverse through water.
4 Octobber 2018 Aman777: Adds a "11k years of volcanic debris" fantasy to his firmament in Lake Van fairy story.The bottom of the solid firmament is beneath 11k years of volcanic debris, under the water in the Lake.
Lake Van is primarily a tectonic lake, formed more than 600,000 years ago by the gradual subsidence of a large block of the earth's crust due to movement on several major faults that run through this portion of Eastern Anatolia. The lake's southern margin marks the boundary between metamorphic rocks of the Bitlis Massif and volcanic strata from the Neogene and Quaternary periods. The deep, western portion of the lake is a dome-shaped basin lying in a tectonic depression formed by a combination of normal and strike-slip faulting and thrusting.[7]
through water from where?
Look for what? You said the ark was burned.
The ark was made out of 450 feet of tall grass and reeds?
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