God's attributes?

[Loukuss]

Omnipotent, Omniscient, Omnipresent

These attributes are often attached to God. Is this because the bible tells us so or do we derive such attributes from greek philosophy? Both?

 

[JamesAH]

It's common sense to know God has those attributes. If he didn't have all of them than he ceases to be God.

 

[Eucharisted]

The attributes of God derive from faith and reason, in that, God reveals His attributes to man and He raises man to His Throne.

However, there is a difference between the above and making up a god. If God wasn't real, we'd be all guilty of making up a god.

 

[Loukuss]

It's common sense to know God has those attributes.

common sense? why so?

If he didn't have all of them than he ceases to be God.

so your god fits inside a well-constructed box.
i dont believe the God of creation can fit in any box.

 

[Loukuss]

The attributes of God derive from faith and reason, in that, God reveals His attributes to man and He raises man to His Throne.

so the attribute of God come from our faith and reason? surely i hope not.
i would hope that God's attributes come from something in His nature and not from something in ours.

If God wasn't real, we'd be all guilty of making up a god.

i believe its possible that many of us worship a god that looks almost identical to the Triune God of scripture, except we have added or subtracted one or more things to make him a bit more confortable to relaton with.

 

[ProScribe]

one attribute is complete transcendence (transcendental)

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[Eucharisted]

so the attribute of God come from our faith and reason? surely i hope not.
i would hope that God's attributes come from something in His nature and not from something in ours.



i believe its possible that many of us worship a god that looks almost identical to the Triune God of scripture, except we have added or subtracted one or more things to make him a bit more confortable to relaton with.

I meant derive as in "we can know them by"

God dose not change, so neither dose our knowledge of Him, though He dose lead us to greater understanding of Him.

 

[ebia]

Omnipotent, Omniscient, Omnipresent

These attributes are often attached to God. Is this because the bible tells us so or do we derive such attributes from greek philosophy? Both?

IMO, those words are trying to nail down in (flawed) greek philosophical terms ideas that scripture is much more poetic and realistic about. When Isaiah or the author of Job, say, wants to talk about the power of God they do so in terms of the majesty of God's creation and stay well clear of absolute terms that (like all naive absolutes that address the infinite) are, in fact, self-defeating.

So I would much rather stay with the fuzzier but ultimately more satifying ways scripture talks about the power, wisdom, knowledge and presence of God than get bogged down in 3 dodgy shortcuts.

 

[Loukuss]

IMO, those words are trying to nail down in (flawed) greek philosophical terms ideas that scripture is much more poetic and realistic about. When Isaiah or the author of Job, say, wants to talk about the power of God they do so in terms of the majesty of God's creation and stay well clear of absolute terms that (like all naive absolutes that address the infinite) are, in fact, self-defeating.

So I would much rather stay with the fuzzier but ultimately more satifying ways scripture talks about the power, wisdom, knowledge and presence of God than get bogged down in 3 dodgy shortcuts.

wise words, my friend.
this is what i was trying to flesh out. the idea that God can be characterized by the omni's is (i believe) theological incorrect, not to mention a tad presumptious.
scripture tells us what our Creator is like. why use anything else? turning to use man-made philosophy when we have God's own description of Himself is like telling God "i feel that these ancient greeks knew how to describe You better than You could/can".
am i wrong in feeling this way?

 

[Loukuss]

God dose not change

Can God change His mind?

so neither dose our knowledge of Him

this is faulty logic. our knowledge of Him can change at any moment. i can read the scriptures and learn something new about Him that i didnt understand before. i can take a theology class and have my prior assumptions of Him corrected, etc, etc.

though He dose lead us to greater understanding of Him.

certainly.

 

[MamaZ]

We see Gods attributes through the scripture.