Godless March on Washington

[Wolseley]

s0uljah, there is no such thing as "majority rule" in this country any more. Didn't you know that?

 

[Chris†opher Paul]

Originally posted by Wolseley
s0uljah, there is no such thing as "majority rule" in this country any more. Didn't you know that?

Oh yeah, forgot...as long as a small minority isn't offended, everything is fine, even murdering babies.  Gee, I wonder where this country is going?

 

[crazyfingers]

Originally posted by Wolseley
s0uljah, there is no such thing as "majority rule" in this country any more. Didn't you know that?

This is a constitutional representative republic which has a bill of rights.  When it comes to the constitution, majority does not rule.  The constitution rules until such time that the constitution is changed.

 

[Morat]

  The Founding Fathers, when they wrote the Constitution, were very much concerned with a concept called "The Tyranny of the Majority".

   A concept, Souljah, that you should fear as much as any minority. Just because you are the majority today, doesn't mean you will always be. And if Christians become the minority in the United States, you will be frantically trying to keep the rights you deride now.

 

 

[Chris†opher Paul]

Originally posted by Morat
  The Founding Fathers, when they wrote the Constitution, were very much concerned with a concept called "The Tyranny of the Majority".

   A concept, Souljah, that you should fear as much as any minority. Just because you are the majority today, doesn't mean you will always be. And if Christians become the minority in the United States, you will be frantically trying to keep the rights you deride now.

 

Christians will become the minority, it is prophecy.  Right before the end times.

 

[Morat]

  Well, I can't think of a better way to bring about persecution then to spend your time persecuting others.

   Wouldn't you find it annoying if people kept trying to force their religion on your children? Through the government?

 

[Chris†opher Paul]

Originally posted by Morat
  Well, I can't think of a better way to bring about persecution then to spend your time persecuting others.

   Wouldn't you find it annoying if people kept trying to force their religion on your children? Through the government?

Yep.

 

[caley]

I'm curious as to what atheists hope to accomplish by marching on Washington?  What are your political agendas?  What are your goals? 

I'm not trying to be patronizing here, I honestly want to know.  I for one, think that lobbying the government to solve your problems=violence, since the government does everything it does through violent means.

(By the way, I'm a Christian, and would never EVER participate in a Christian march on Washington)

 

[Morat]

  Caley: Given that the United States government is comprised pretty much solely of Christians (at least nominal ones), I'm not suprised you'd have no interest in marching.

   You're represented. Offhand, given that the political goals of atheists diverge wildly, about the only thing that would bring them together would be the utter lack of recognition given to them by the US government as an actual group.

   After all, we're the last group you can get away with insulting. Well, and in some places, gays. 

   Bush the Elder's comments during his Presidency on atheists (they probably aren't citizens and can't be patriots) as an excellent example.

 

 

[caley]

Originally posted by Morat
  Caley: Given that the United States government is comprised pretty much solely of Christians (at least nominal ones), I'm not suprised you'd have no interest in marching.

   You're represented. Offhand, given that the political goals of atheists diverge wildly, about the only thing that would bring them together would be the utter lack of recognition given to them by the US government as an actual group.

   After all, we're the last group you can get away with insulting. Well, and in some places, gays. 

   Bush the Elder's comments during his Presidency on atheists (they probably aren't citizens and can't be patriots) as an excellent example.

 

Personally, I don't care if I'm represented or not, even if I weren't I still wouldn't march.

Why do you need to be represented.

Bush the Elder is a moron who is going to turn USA into the Roman Empire.  I don't care who he declares citizens and patriots.  I am a Christian, but I am sure not a patriot, and I'm only a citizen because of some arbitrary rule made up by people I don't know who are long dead.

 

[Morat]

Why do you need to be represented.

   Well. That's a surprising question. Most people would learn the answer to that as children, when the basics of democracy are taught.

   Perhaps you come from a country with a slightly different form of government?

 

 

[caley]

Originally posted by Morat
   Well. That's a surprising question. Most people would learn the answer to that as children, when the basics of democracy are taught.

   Perhaps you come from a country with a slightly different form of government?

 

I come from America, but I have rejected democracy and all other forms of government, as well as most of the propaganda taught me in government schools.

Government, if it exists (I do not support the existence of government), should exist for the sole purpose of protecting the freedom of the people.  In this instance, no one needs to be represented as a group, simply as individuals in need of freedom protection.

All governments eventually become oppressive, however, so I have decided that they are all evil and need to go.

Anarchism, the free market, property, libertarianism, and personal freedom in all things are what I believe in.

 

[Morat]

  Isn't that special? Well, to answer your question in a form you can accept:

   Atheists, which are an indetifiable grouping of people, are at risk of having certain freedoms abridged. By demonstrating, they are hoping to point out to the politicians who pass laws, that abridging their freedoms isn't worth the cost in votes.

  Kind of simple, huh? "Don't mess with our freedom, because we have enough people to make reelection difficult".

 

 

[caley]

Originally posted by Morat
  Isn't that special? Well, to answer your question in a form you can accept:

   Atheists, which are an indetifiable grouping of people, are at risk of having certain freedoms abridged. By demonstrating, they are hoping to point out to the politicians who pass laws, that abridging their freedoms isn't worth the cost in votes.

  Kind of simple, huh? "Don't mess with our freedom, because we have enough people to make reelection difficult".

 

That's all fine with me, as long as there is no lobbying to pass laws which will infringe the freedoms of anyone else.

 

[LouisBooth]

" Wouldn't you find it annoying if people kept trying to force their religion on your children? Through the government?"

I guess you missed my post. He isn't promoting a certain religion. dont create a strawman, its tiring.