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He is the ultimate good, beyond our comprehension. I personally think He exists because I have experienced Him.

:scratch: Hmmm....some how eye don't think thats going to be enough to convince Jersey. lol.
(NO OFFENCE INTENDED TO U, SCRATCHINGMYHEAD)


P.E.A.C.E Jersey...

What is a God, exactly, and why do you think one exists?

The first question, "what is a God exactly?" is something that seems to be different for a lot of people, depending on religion, experience, the characteristics they apply to "God", to the point where it seems easiest if eye give U a definition of God and Cee if it applies to me.

GOD - A being of supernatural powers or attributes, believed in and worshiped by a people, especially a male deity thought to control some part of nature or reality.

Eye'll use the above meaning as it seems to apply to the common conception of God.

Firstly eye don't believe in supernatural powers. Nothing in this Universe happens above or beyond the Laws that have been put in place.

Do eye worship a particular entity thought to control some part of nature or reality?

Yes. Infact eye worship (to render reverence and homage to) many entities that control a part of nature or reality. For example, eye worship the Sun, for it controls things like light, warmth, our concept of time (passing of years, days etc.). Does that make it a God, eye don't know, it seems to.

At the end of the day, though, all exists within The ALL (El Kuluwm), that is the God of Gods. It seems that this Universe functions by a Supreme Intelligence, that intelligence though is again, just another part of the ALL. Which is why the best title eye, myself can come up with would be The ALL. Anything else seems to define and limit what is limitless and undefinable.

SHEM HETEP

(DONT WORRY EYE KNOW THIS WILL PROBABLY NOT CONVINCE U EITHER).
 
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What is a God, exactly, and why do you think one exists?

Without using the bible or any other religious or holy text, can you as a believer in God answer this question?

In other words, no scriptures or bible verses please.
Asking such a question is like asking "Do_you_thing"

Incredibly abstract with billions of possible answers/combinations. I think you may have to narrow it down :p
 
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GOD - A being of supernatural powers or attributes, believed in and worshiped by a people, especially a male deity thought to control some part of nature or reality.
This isn't really a definition for a God. It describes a belief only in a being that has no coherent definition.

Yes. Infact eye worship (to render reverence and homage to) many entities that control a part of nature or reality. For example, eye worship the Sun, for it controls things like light, warmth, our concept of time (passing of years, days etc.). Does that make it a God, eye don't know, it seems to.

I like the sun too. I especially enjoy it's light and warmth and most of all, a beautiful day. At least I know the sun is something that can be defined and known to exist. Something a God is none of these.
 
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Asking such a question is like asking "Do_you_thing"

Incredibly abstract with billions of possible answers/combinations. I think you may have to narrow it down :p

Narrow what down? Either you can define what a God is exactly, or you cannot. It's as simple as that. If it cannot be defined then, it should be rejected.

Therefore, what is a God, exactly, and why do you think one exists?

Cop out responses like yours are not acceptable.
 
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What is a God, exactly,
The standard definition is usually something along the lines of a supernatural entity that has either created, or has a significant role in sustaining the universe.

why do you think one exists?
For one, I believe the universe, in which we live, is much too complex to have come into existence, without the help of an intelligent creator of sorts (however I can't really compare how complex our universe is to anything else, so I can see why you might reject this kind of argument). Second of all, I have had personal experiences which lead me to believe in God (again I understand if you reject this argument as well).
 
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A Big question!

I believe (IMO) that since God the creator is Ominipotent.....that even if one were to study about God for an entire life-time, or a billion lifetimes, you would be no nearer to the truth anyway. The human mind is capable of understanding God much as a pebble or Rock can understand the Theory of Relativity. The pebble or Rock can't understand The Theory (or for that matter, any theory, no matter how simple), not because it didn't study long enough -- but because it doesn't have the ability.
However , there is a point to studying about God: the more you study about Him, the more you realize the depth of His greatness (and Wisdom), and the totality of your reliance on Him.

Be Well!
God Bless
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Bore da. Sut mae?

I believe God, the Eternal is pure light, pure energy.

I believe in God(s) because this Earth was here before I was born, and will be here after I die. I nor any human created this planet. Something far greater than our species created matter and the laws of physics and chemistry.

Th-th- th- that's all, folks!


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This isn't really a definition for a God. It describes a belief only in a being that has no coherent definition.



I like the sun too. I especially enjoy it's light and warmth and most of all, a beautiful day. At least I know the sun is something that can be defined and known to exist. Something a God is none of these.
The Sun is a good example. We can see it therefore we know it exists. But I would have to diagree that we can define it. Do we already know everything there is to know about the Sun? I don't think so. Scientists are still trying to understand the Sun. If this were not true, than any and all scientific research on the sun would be halted immediately. It still amazes me that I can feel the power (heat) from something that is 91,000,000 miles away and that it is responsible for maintaining life on the earth.
It also amazes me that as I sit here, in the air around me are billions upon billions of particles, elements, virii, bacteria, and other things that I CANT see with the naked eye. Science has proven that these things are there, but I still can't see them. And I can still choose if I want, to not believe this, whether you give me a microscope or not. Has everything been discovered that could float around in the air unseen to the human eye? Probably not.
Therefore, I don't think non-belief in a God on the account of not being able to see him, and not being able to prove he exists, or not being able to define him is proof that God does not exist.
Could there be no God? Possibly, but I think even scientific discovery would benefit greatly to take a complete non-biased approach of saying that "We don't know" if God does or does not exist. I think Science has really helped people to understand God more. He doesn't make the grass grow, he has the Sun do that for him.
I'm sure more scientific discoveries will be made that will challenge our current understanding of God, but that still doesn't proove he doesn't exist, He just doesn't exist in the way we understood him.
 
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What is a God, exactly, and why do you think one exists?

A First Cause responsible for the current universe, whether it's a spiritual being, the remains of a previous universe, the singularity of a Pre-Big Bang, or whatever else. Thus, with such a definition, a "God" of some sorts has to exist by logic.
 
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The standard definition is usually something along the lines of a supernatural entity that has either created, or has a significant role in sustaining the universe.
If such a creature does exist, literally, then, why doesn't it use it's supernatural powers to stop evil and disasters that occur in the world? I think it only logical and rational that such a supernatural entity is non-existent, wouldn't you agree? If there is such a being that exists that is supernatural, then, I'm not in the least bit impressed. What is he doing anyway? Hiding possibly? More like it doesn't even exist.
For one, I believe the universe, in which we live, is much too complex to have come into existence, without the help of an intelligent creator of sorts (however I can't really compare how complex our universe is to anything else, so I can see why you might reject this kind of argument).
Well how did a complex being such as a God come into existence on it's own? Surely it must have had a complex creator of itself, don't you think?

Second of all, I have had personal experiences which lead me to believe in God (again I understand if you reject this argument as well).
It seems like your personal experience wasn't convincing enough, if it were, you wouldn't just "believe" it was a God would you? Shouldn’t you know for sure that it was a God?
Why just surrender to mere assumptions that are not rationally reliable? I don’t think you experienced the existence of a God at all. You probably had some really good feelings that overwhelmed you to the point where you had a strong desire to believe it was a God.
 
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Hi!

If I tried to define God....

It would be all the good inside of me. The good inside of me is sometimes shadowed by the bad, but in the end, he's still there. No matter what, the good is still inside of me. I may go through life, but the person he's trying to change me into will always shine through.
 
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A First Cause responsible for the current universe, whether it's a spiritual being, the remains of a previous universe, the singularity of a Pre-Big Bang, or whatever else. Thus, with such a definition, a "God" of some sorts has to exist by logic.


Are you saying that God is the official "first cause" of everything? If so, then, how can you assume there can be an uncaused cause? That said, isn't it quite obvious that everyone who believes there is a God behind it all are at a total loss at being able to define what is a God exactly?

It's almost like trying to define what a four corned circle is. It's just to incomprehensible, which has every thing in common with:

NON-EXISTENCE

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Hi!

If I tried to define God....

It would be all the good inside of me. The good inside of me is sometimes shadowed by the bad, but in the end, he's still there. No matter what, the good is still inside of me. I may go through life, but the person he's trying to change me into will always shine through.

:scratch: don't think I'm following what you're saying here. Are you saying that God is inside of you? If so, how does that define what a God is exactly? I think all you have done here is explain your own personal feelings about yourself is all.
 
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:scratch: don't think I'm following what you're saying here. Are you saying that God is inside of you? If so, how does that define what a God is exactly? I think all you have done here is explain your own personal feelings about yourself is all.
No, I'm not boosting myself up.

I am human, correct. (no, i'm not relative of ChrisBot, which makes me human).

Humans are ordinarily anything but good. As a Christian, i have accepted Christ into my heart, and he's placed within me some of his Spirit. It's like this....

Have you ever loved someone deeply? I remember when I met my best friend Jamie, she just literally changed my life, and when I realized that I love her so much, it was as if her character, the little pieces I have of her within me, just swelled up to overflow my spirit. I'm talking about when you're just so full of love for one person, you can't help but let it all just run out. That's what God is like to me. He's within me, and all the little pieces of his character, all the lessons he's taught me and all that he's revealed to me....they just spill out and I become more 'like Jesus' instead of more 'me.' I am so selfish, and without Jesus and God's spirit, I would not be able to love, I'd harbor all I can. But with God, I am motivated to serve other unselfishly, wanting nothing for myself.
 
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If such a creature does exist, literally, then, why doesn't it use it's supernatural powers to stop evil and disasters that occur in the world? I think it only logical and rational that such a supernatural entity is non-existent, wouldn't you agree? If there is such a being that exists that is supernatural, then, I'm not in the least bit impressed. What is he doing anyway? Hiding possibly? More like it doesn't even exist.
No, I obviously don't agree with you, other wise I wouldn't be a theist would I? :p

Well how did a complex being such as a God come into existence on it's own? Surely it must have had a complex creator of itself, don't you think?
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It seems like your personal experience wasn't convincing enough, if it were, you wouldn't just "believe" it was a God would you? Shouldn’t you know for sure that it was a God?
Because, we can never truly "know" anything. I can not without a doubt, ever know if gravity exists or not, but chances are it does.

You probably had some really good feelings that overwhelmed you to the point where you had a strong desire to believe it was a God.
I understand, but just as you do not believe my claims of there being a God, I do not believe your claims of my personal experiences being mere emotion.
 
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