God used Evolution to create man

[lasthero]

No, No, No....George Carlin was a scam artist. He fooled and led many people to hell.

Mr.Camping got richer by giving people a madeup date. Foolish people spent their entire bank accounts because they thought the date was real. Millions gave up all their savings to Mr.Camping's church.

Like who? Why would you give money to him if you thought the world was ending?

 

[morse86]

Like who? Why would you give money to him if you thought the world was ending?

Because Camping taught works salvation and prosperity gospel (the more you give, the more God is going to bless you).

Those people thought they could goto heaven by giving more money to the church.

 

[bhsmte]

What part did you not understand? No man knows the exact date. God told us that it would be near end times when we see the great falling away, setting up the world stage for antichrist, perilous times......all happening right now.

My guess is the antichrist is coming in the next 2 decades just by observing what is going on in the world...again...it is just my opinion and not biblical (no man knows the day or hour).

You can narrow it down to the next two decades though?

 

[Davian]

What part did you not understand? No man knows the exact date. God told us

How? Do you hear voices?

that it would be near end times when we see the great falling away, setting up the world stage for antichrist, perilous times......all happening right now.

My guess is the antichrist is coming in the next 2 decades just by observing what is going on in the world...again...it is just my opinion and not biblical (no man knows the day or hour).

20 years is a good number. Far enough so as not to cause panic, but close enough to increase concern and increase attendance at church, and keep that money rolling in. I see you are doing your part.

Why is religion so concerned with money?

 

[Davian]

You? a fan of preaching?

Look, Davian, I don't want to argue with you.

I don't know you that well.

But if you're going to attack my faith, be prepared to answer for yours.

I did not attack your faith, as fragile as it appears to be. I questioned your use of the English language.

 

[AV1611VET]

I did not attack your faith, as fragile as it appears to be. I questioned your use of the English language.

I'll say this much: it's nice to see someone with a faith icon admit they're seeking reality.

Have you found it yet?

If so, does your reality allow for others' faith?

 

[morse86]

How? Do you hear voices?

20 years is a good number. Far enough so as not to cause panic, but close enough to increase concern and increase attendance at church, and keep that money rolling in. I see you are doing your part.

Why is religion so concerned with money?

Pastors have a right to be paid.

1 Timothy 5:17-18:
Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.
For the scripture saith, Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward.


Just observe the world, all the perversions and deceit in it. It is clear we're very close to the end times.

 

[Davian]

I'll say this much: it's nice to see someone with a faith icon admit they're seeking reality.

I was not aware that it was possible not to have some sort of 'faith' icon displayed. I would use the 'atheist' icon, but I have seen individuals here that misrepresent it, trying to tell others that it is a "there are no gods" icon. Have you seen that happen?

Have you found it yet?

I have found demonstrably accurate descriptions of reality, and discussed them at length here, and on other sites.

If so, does your reality allow for others' faith?

Of course, whatever you believe in, from gods, pixies, gremlins, and ancient extraterrestrial aliens visiting pre-columbian civilizations, you are free to do so, and if you want to post why you believe in such things, you are free to do so in these forums.

 

[Davian]

Pastors have a right to be paid.

1 Timothy 5:17-18:
Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.
For the scripture saith, Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward.

These labourers must be very worthy.
Richest Pastors - TheRichest

Just observe the world, all the perversions and deceit in it. It is clear we're very close to the end times.

Very close, but always about 20 years away. Funny about that.

 

[morse86]

These labourers must be very worthy.
Richest Pastors - TheRichest

Very close, but always about 20 years away. Funny about that.

Every one of those "richest pastors" are false prophets and scam artists. I think almost all of them preach weird doctrine like sons of God include angels, works salvation, that one can lose their salvation, and how you must observe the sabbath etc etc.

These days, anyone can call themselves a pastor.....is it biblical?

Let's see some of God's requirements for a Pastor (1 Timothy 3):

1. A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
2. Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
3. One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)
4. Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.
5. Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

This disqualifies 100% of the trash in the link you provided. They wear there $1000 suits and drive 100k benz...they covet..they are not humble. They are not pastors, they are all ravenous wolves in sheeps clothing.

 

[Davian]

Every one of those "richest pastors" are false prophets and scam artists. I think almost all of them preach weird doctrine like sons of God include angels, works salvation, that one can lose their salvation, and how you must observe the sabbath etc etc.

These days, anyone can call themselves a pastor.....is it biblical?

Let's see some of God's requirements for a Pastor (1 Timothy 3):

1. A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
2. Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
3. One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)
4. Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.
5. Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

This disqualifies 100% of the trash in the link you provided. They wear there $1000 suits and drive 100k benz...they covet..they are not humble. They are not pastors, they are all ravenous wolves in sheeps clothing.

You sound bitter. I take it you are not getting a piece of that action.

 

[morse86]

You sound bitter. I take it you are not getting a piece of that action.

No, I'm just telling what the bible says for the requirements of a pastor. The list that you are showed me are not pastors...they can call themselves that but they are not.

A good example of a REAL pastor is Pastor Steven Anderson:
https://www.youtube.com/user/sanderson1611/videos

 

[JacksBratt]

You tell us. I am curious what your view is.

Here we have an example of the Bible saying that God does X. We also have very solid science demonstrating that natural processes do X.

If X=evolution, you claim that the science has to be wrong since it would contradict the Bible.

What if X=fetal development? Does the same rule apply?

Did God not design all natural processes, laws and systems? Is He not in constant control of the whole universe, excepting the free will of all people?

Is there anything in the universe that happens without God's approval?

Even Satan, who is the lord of the air cannot do anything without it being approved by God.

 

[Davian]

No, I'm just telling what the bible says for the requirements of a pastor. The list that you are showed me are not pastors...they can call themselves that but they are not.

A good example of a REAL pastor is Pastor Steven Anderson:
https://www.youtube.com/user/sanderson1611/videos

So everyone gets their own interpretation of the bible.

Who appointed you the arbiter of who can call themself a pastor?

 

[morse86]

Intepretation?????? What part of 1 Timothy 3 is there to intepret?!?!?!?!?!? It is literal. There is no intepretation necessary.

Stop being a troll.

 

[Tzaousios]

A good example of a REAL pastor is Pastor Steven Anderson

I wondered how long it was going to take until you mentioned him.

 

[Davian]

Intepretation?????? What part of 1 Timothy 3 is there to intepret?!?!?!?!?!? It is literal. There is no intepretation necessary.

Stop being a troll.

This is why I don't bring my good irony meters here anymore.

 

[JayFern]

Did God not design all natural processes, laws and systems? Is He not in constant control of the whole universe, excepting the free will of all people?

Is there anything in the universe that happens without God's approval?

Even Satan, who is the lord of the air cannot do anything without it being approved by God.

The answer must be no to all of them until you can provide something other than just your say so.
If you can't provide evidence who's to say it wasn't the great Ju Ju who made it all happen?

 

[driewerf]

So are you saying that a Christian who has killed someone is more deserving of heaven than an atheist who works to better society?

Jach Chick takes that position explicitly:
Gun Slinger

 

[Dizredux]

Originally Posted by morse86

A good example of a REAL pastor is Pastor Steven Anderson

I wondered how long it was going to take until you mentioned him.

Looked him up. He sounds like a trip. Is he the successor to Fred Phelps?


Dizredux