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God used Evolution to create man

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JacksBratt

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That's a pretty narrow definition, isn't it?

That's like saying, "When I say car, I mean an eight-cylinder sedan."


Well.... let's take a look at it....

Originally Posted by JacksBratt
When I say life, I mean a living cell that functions, divides, takes on nutrients and continues to do so. When the life leaves, the cell decays.

I think that "I mean an eight cylinder Sedan" is not giving it the credit it's due.

How about I mean an eight cylinder engine with pistons, valves, spark plugs, a cam shaft, timing chain, oil pump, water pump, connecting rods etc.... that can run.....

And somehow, evolution has the pistons with the connecting rods, roller bearings in place, the valves and cams all miraculously showing up, in their place with all the correct tolerances, lubricants, coolants, hoses, all on their own, placed together with gaskets and bolts tightened to the correct torque and then....starting and running..... All on its own. No outside influence, designer, mechanic, technician, blueprint.......nothing. And in all reality, the internal combustion engine pales in comparison to any living cell in their respective complexities.

 
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Life has none of those things.
 
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Which God used evolution to create man and why would a God need the long drawn out process of evolution?

You know evolution is a fact but you also need to include your God so why not kill two birds with one stone and dismiss the creation story and say God used Evolution to create everything?
Problem, Christianity needs the stories in Genesis otherwise it becomes even more meaningless than it already is.
 
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Can you give me some examples of your explanations? This was not a digital picture and was the original print.

I would really like to hear them.

In no particular order:

1. The boy may not have been dead.
2. The boy in the picture was one who resembled what was imagined the dead boy would look like six years later.
3. The picture was faked.
4. A stranger was visiting and was included in the picture.
5. People lie for all kinds of reasons.

Those are off the top of my head. I could probably come up with several more if I chose to think about it for longer than 60 seconds.
 
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Why do you feel the need to answer every question with a question?
It's what they have been told to do, that way they don't ever need to face up to their beliefs, they hear the question then dismiss it by asking another question, it's a classic deflection tactic, in the end they don't even know they are doing it.
 
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Evolution is simply a built in design feature allowing created life to survive when the climate changes or something else happens. There is no such thing as a "long drawn out process of evolution". Unless you believe man's unsubstantiated assumptions about the unobservable past.
 
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It's obvious that you will use anything you can lay your hands on to keep believing what you were raised to believe, enjoy.
 
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It's obvious that you will use anything you can lay your hands on to keep believing what you were raised to believe, enjoy.

I wasn't raised to believe God. I was saved by the word of God when I was 22. No one even spoke to me about anything Bible related except for me reading the bible itself.

I was actually raised to believe in evolution and that there was no God in the design.
 
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No one even spoke to me about anything Bible related except for me reading the bible itself.

If you lived in America, I find that extremely unlikely.

I was actually raised to believe in evolution and that there was no God in the design.

You were either raised to believe in a parody of evolution or you've forgotten what you were taught, because you've shown a very poor understanding of how it works. At least on this site.
 
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What is the ONLY driving force in Darwinism?

-_- in evolution, there isn't just 1 driving force. Even if you get really basic, you would have mutation, natural selection, and genetic drift, which means at the very minimum there would be 3. And that would be a middle school level of the theory of evolution.
 
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It's a huge problem for unguided, unintelligent natural processes
to form from simple life forms to extremely complex life forms.

It is guided, just not by anything sentient. There are reasons why we don't see organisms that make 0 sense for the environments they live in; natural selection might not be intelligent, but environmental pressures do push life to go in certain directions. Unless you support god guided evolution, in which case it is guided by a sentient being.
 
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