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God used Evolution to create man

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When I say life, I mean a living cell that functions, divides, takes on nutrients and continues to do so. When the life leaves, the cell decays.
That's a pretty narrow definition, isn't it?

That's like saying, "When I say car, I mean an eight-cylinder sedan."
 
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Your claim...you present the evidence.
Then it wouldn't be supernatural, would it?

Supernatural: (of a manifestation or event) attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature.

That's like asking, "What color is invisible?"
 
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So first you need amino acids, then you need these to arrange themselves in unbelievably complex, extremely long chains of DNA code to form extremely complex organisms, even at the tiniest level of life. Then you are still missing the cell wall, cytoplasm, mitochondria, nucleoli, Chromatin, endoplasmic reticulum, and the rest of the cell.

And you still don't have life........

All you need is imperfect replicators in order for evolution to occur. It doesn't matter how those replicators get there.
 
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Are you just trolling me here? Just google paranormal. There is obviously something beyond our senses and areas of perception and consciousness.
We will only see others like you making claims like you.

There is obviously not something beyond our senses and areas of perception and consciousness otherwise someone would have evidence for such things, as they haven't we reserve judgement until they do have evidence, otherwise every nut job can propose something exists and everyone like you will believe that it does actually exists.
Wake Up!!
 
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The more steps needed just compounds the odds against this complex, intricate, code of huge amounts of information ever coming together without some outside, intelligent, influence.

Where is your evidence that this information needs an intelligent influence?

Oh, now were down to this. When I say life, I mean a living cell that functions, divides, takes on nutrients and continues to do so. When the life leaves, the cell decays.

Vitalism was disproven a long time ago.
 
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Where is your evidence that this information needs an intelligent influence?

Where is your evidence that the incomprehensible complexity and variety of creation is a result of blind, random, meaningless, mindless, directionless natural mechanisms?
 
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Then it wouldn't be supernatural, would it?

Supernatural: (of a manifestation or event) attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature.

That's like asking, "What color is invisible?"
Not really. If the supernatural can interact with the natural with, maybe a pillar of fire, I think there would be some evidence of the interaction.

If a preacher/faith healer caused a blind man to see or a amputee to grow back a limb, I think that would be good evidence.

Ya got any of that?
 
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What is the ONLY driving force in Darwinism?
When did a question become evidence?

Ohhh...I forgot that you don't really understand what evidence is or how it works.

Let me help a little.

Try producing a scientific paper in which the conclusion states: "the incomprehensible complexity and variety of creation is a result of blind, random, meaningless, mindless, directionless natural mechanisms". Once you have done that, the scientific paper you produced would be evidence for your claim.

Otherwise, your assertion remains what is was many months ago when you first stated it, a pile of poorly sliced baloney.
 
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When did a question become evidence?

Ohhh...I forgot that you don't really understand what evidence is or how it works.

Let me help a little.

Try producing a scientific paper in which the conclusion states: "the incomprehensible complexity and variety of creation is a result of blind, random, meaningless, mindless, directionless natural mechanisms". Once you have done that, the scientific paper you produced would be evidence for your claim.

Otherwise, your assertion remains what is was many months ago when you first stated it, a pile of poorly sliced baloney.

Nothing there about the ONLY driving force in Darwinism. Don't know?
 
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Nothing there about the ONLY driving force in Darwinism. Don't know?
Not going to show that the theory of evolution states that tripe you claim it does? Don't know?

See? I can use childish methods just like you do. Doesn't seem to get us anywhere though.

You could move the discussion forward by producing something resembling evidence to support your wild accusations regarding the claims of the theory of evolution or the curriculum taught in the U.S. public schools.

If your past actions are any predictor of your future actions, I am relatively sure you will continue with your schoolboy antics and we will continue to ignore you, in a similar fashion to the way we ignore other people that talk to themselves.
 
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Not going to show that the theory of evolution states that tripe you claim it does? Don't know?

See? I can use childish methods just like you do. Doesn't seem to get us anywhere though.

You could move the discussion forward by producing something resembling evidence to support your wild accusations regarding the claims of the theory of evolution or the curriculum taught in the U.S. public schools.

If your past actions are any predictor of your future actions, I am relatively sure you will continue with your schoolboy antics and we will continue to ignore you, in a similar fashion to the way we ignore other people that talk to themselves.

You could simply identify the ONLY driving force in Darwinism. No?
 
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You could simply identify the ONLY driving force in Darwinism. No?
Perhaps I could, but that would take the conversation in a different direction, and get you off the hook to provide evidence for your wild claims. So...no. I like the pressure to remain on you.

You could simply provide a scientific paper that states in it's conclusion, "the incomprehensible complexity and variety of creation is a result of blind, random, meaningless, mindless, directionless natural mechanisms".

Since you can't, I have no choice but to conclude that your months on this forum have not helped your cause in any way, because ALL of your assertions remain unsupported by any evidence.

Perhaps you should find another line of work. You don't seem to be a very good debater.
 
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Perhaps I could, but that would take the conversation in a different direction, and get you off the hook to provide evidence for your wild claims. So...no. I like the pressure to remain on you.

You could simply provide a scientific paper that states in it's conclusion, "the incomprehensible complexity and variety of creation is a result of blind, random, meaningless, mindless, directionless natural mechanisms".

Since you can't, I have no choice but to conclude that your months on this forum have not helped your cause in any way, because ALL of your assertions remain unsupported by any evidence.

Perhaps you should find another line of work. You don't seem to be a very good debater.

We could examine the alleged ONLY driving force for Darwinism and determine if it meets the criteria for the incomprehensible complexity and variety of creation being blind, random, meaningless and mindless.....if only we could identify this mysterious, elusive, driving force.

Oh well, maybe one day. :thumbsup:
 
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We could examine the alleged ONLY driving force for Darwinism and determine if it meets the criteria for the incomprehensible complexity and variety of creation being blind, random, meaningless and mindless.....if only we could identify this mysterious, elusive, driving force.

Oh well, maybe one day. :thumbsup:

Maybe one day you will pull your head out of the sand and learn the science.
 
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Maybe one day you will pull your head out of the sand and learn the science.

Assuming that given enough time, natural unguided, unintelligent forces can alter and create new muscles, tendons, blood vessels, body plans, and create new complex biological machinery isn't science.
 
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