yes of course they are claims by men. Thomas Jefferson and the architects of the constitution were human. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
. The claim is that the State can not give you your rights nor can it take them away. In order for that to occur god has to come down in person and take them away. Since he is not going to do that those rights stand and as such are distinguished from man made laws. .The State can not give you rights. . The State can not give you what it has not got. The State grants privileges and withhold privileges. So it's between right and privilege. Rights are god given. Privileges are State given. that is the general idea. the meant it this way .
Claim from claim differ. The universal human right declaration is not set up like that. Without these rights being pitched as objective self evident truth they are relativistic. God doesn't have to come down to change them in order for them to be changed. We can do it . There in lies the danger .
But then you can argue what is the difference? these rights in the usa are just ideals that are aspired to but can never be achieved . then you point to diversity as compromise mechanism to achieve the maximum degree of these rights but never the rights themselves .. you state further that diversity is a middle of the road approach where the State tries to control the warfare of the individual against the state and the state against the individual and that that road shifts depending on the human condition . but see here is the thing . in American jurisprudence the emphasis is in the liberty of the individual . that's s the context within which the courts find their findings. By contrast in the UN the emphasis is in making life tolerable to the maximum degree possible which grounds the litigation on utility . but when a relationship is grounded on utility that relationship can not survive once that utility ceases to be or if any other circumstances arise that can serve that utility better.
You can actually see the difference on the ground. UN soldiers sitting safe in their compounds while civilians are being slaughtered outside. UN folks driving expensive land cruisers and SUV while people are starving on the road. And their salaries !!!! people who couldn't muster minimum wages in their countries getting thousand of dollars working for the UN. And their sun glasses and shampoo . it amuses me to watch that charade . .
That's what happens when you serve man made laws. .by contrast when a man serves Jesus he does not go to war for the sake of war or any purposes beyond war such a victory or defeat-- or even your SUV.( this bit made me laugh. Yes suv too ) He goes to war for the sheer worth of the activity , of what he is doing , which is the act of his commitment to the Christ . Such a commitment by it's very nature is not born of reason or beholden to external results but is born of faith . Its what we do when are free and what we do to be free from all our passions such as lust to hang on to our petty life's and hamburgers and shampoo and suvs and salaries .
But then you say that is but passion too. That is true . We compete in terms of the passion of the Christ and not hamburgers. Stay away from hamburgers. Too much fat and sugar clogs the brain. Dampens the firing of neuron in the brain. . Not conducive to free thinking . teh brain works actually something like photons . the law of indeterminacy is in it .it is not subject to causation. see freedom laws operate there too. that's why there is faith. that's why there is faith in the unseen.
. The claim is that the State can not give you your rights nor can it take them away. In order for that to occur god has to come down in person and take them away. Since he is not going to do that those rights stand and as such are distinguished from man made laws. .The State can not give you rights. . The State can not give you what it has not got. The State grants privileges and withhold privileges. So it's between right and privilege. Rights are god given. Privileges are State given. that is the general idea. the meant it this way .
Claim from claim differ. The universal human right declaration is not set up like that. Without these rights being pitched as objective self evident truth they are relativistic. God doesn't have to come down to change them in order for them to be changed. We can do it . There in lies the danger .
But then you can argue what is the difference? these rights in the usa are just ideals that are aspired to but can never be achieved . then you point to diversity as compromise mechanism to achieve the maximum degree of these rights but never the rights themselves .. you state further that diversity is a middle of the road approach where the State tries to control the warfare of the individual against the state and the state against the individual and that that road shifts depending on the human condition . but see here is the thing . in American jurisprudence the emphasis is in the liberty of the individual . that's s the context within which the courts find their findings. By contrast in the UN the emphasis is in making life tolerable to the maximum degree possible which grounds the litigation on utility . but when a relationship is grounded on utility that relationship can not survive once that utility ceases to be or if any other circumstances arise that can serve that utility better.
You can actually see the difference on the ground. UN soldiers sitting safe in their compounds while civilians are being slaughtered outside. UN folks driving expensive land cruisers and SUV while people are starving on the road. And their salaries !!!! people who couldn't muster minimum wages in their countries getting thousand of dollars working for the UN. And their sun glasses and shampoo . it amuses me to watch that charade . .
That's what happens when you serve man made laws. .by contrast when a man serves Jesus he does not go to war for the sake of war or any purposes beyond war such a victory or defeat-- or even your SUV.( this bit made me laugh. Yes suv too ) He goes to war for the sheer worth of the activity , of what he is doing , which is the act of his commitment to the Christ . Such a commitment by it's very nature is not born of reason or beholden to external results but is born of faith . Its what we do when are free and what we do to be free from all our passions such as lust to hang on to our petty life's and hamburgers and shampoo and suvs and salaries .
But then you say that is but passion too. That is true . We compete in terms of the passion of the Christ and not hamburgers. Stay away from hamburgers. Too much fat and sugar clogs the brain. Dampens the firing of neuron in the brain. . Not conducive to free thinking . teh brain works actually something like photons . the law of indeterminacy is in it .it is not subject to causation. see freedom laws operate there too. that's why there is faith. that's why there is faith in the unseen.
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However, this is the only time I will ever mention it -- my concern is the content of your posts, not the form in which they are presented.
