God has a sense of humor, but it does not look good for us

[BNR32FAN]

Some of the Eastern Churches split from the Holy See for political reasons. Political Constantinople was the capital of the empire and Rome was a backwater town that had been overthrown by barbarians. So what ?
There are not two or three Popes. The Church has endured times wear many have laid claim to the title, but the Church is united under the Chair of Peter, the Church God said against which the gates of hell will not prevail. She exists today and She will endure by the promise of Jesus Himself.

A church split is not evidence of no
church ever existing. If it were, then why are you here? Are not Presbyterians not known as the split “P’s”? I say this not to insult you, it merely reveals the flaw in your logic
It also shows the words of Jesus to be true. The same measure you use to judge another will be used to judge you. To delegitimize the Catholic Church because some have split off from her would also delegitimize you. It’s just a bad argument

You completely missed the point that Peter had successors in Antioch as well as Rome who also held the same apostolic succession as Rome. And what history has revealed to us is that the apostolic succession doesn’t mean anything at all because all of the apostolic churches had successors who were anointed by the apostles who later went on to schism into three separate churches out of communion with one another. Furthermore you still have the problem with the inquisitions being sanctioned by 99 Roman Catholic popes which brings to question were those popes actually being guided by the Holy Spirit when they were forcing people to convert to Catholicism? I know you don’t want to discuss it, but when you bring up apostolic succession and claim that the church cannot err, it becomes absolutely relevant to these claims. “You will know them by their fruits”.

 

[jas3]

No I think that the commandment for a man to marry his brother’s widow if she doesn’t have a heir predated when it was recorded in Deuteronomy since the term for it already existed in Genesis, just like Cain’s murder of Able was already a sin before the commandment against murder was recorded in the scriptures.

The term being used in Genesis doesn't mean anything for its date since tradition holds that Moses was the author of the Pentateuch. But even if the law did exist, the arrangement is still considered a marriage.

Jesus never gave any such instructions, you’re just extrapolating what He said

Ironic considering you're extrapolating a legal requirement on Onan from a passage in Deuteronomy.

 

[BNR32FAN]

The term being used in Genesis doesn't mean anything for its date since tradition holds that Moses was the author of the Pentateuch. But even if the law did exist, the arrangement is still considered a marriage.

Ironic considering you're extrapolating a legal requirement on Onan from a passage in Deuteronomy.

The Hebrew word Yabam means to perform your duty as a brother, so evidently this duty already existed.

 

[boughtwithaprice]

Jesus never gave any such instructions, you’re just extrapolating what He said and ignoring the context of the message. The message was about divorce not sex. “The two shall become one flesh” isn’t an instruction or a commandment, it’s an illustration of the union between husband and wife. It has nothing to do with contraceptives.

That is your interpretation, which is the ultimate basis for your argument. “I know better. The scripture does not mean that.” Since the scripture says lean not to your own understanding, I don’t think it is safe to dismiss the matter entirely based on one’s own thoughts.

For the first 1900 years of Christianity, contraception was considered sinful. The marital act was to be ordered toward children.

When there is no contraception, a man is required to control himself and treat his wife with the love and respect due her. He is commanded to love her and give himself for her. She is commanded to be subject to him

With the advent of contraception, there is no longer the mutual respect as there is an absence of love and submission, in favor of an equal partner framework. This is unbiblical and not taught in the word of God
In modern society, many find it difficult to answer a simple question, what is a woman?
What is the one thing that a woman can be that a man can never be? A mother. Modern society denies and degrades motherhood in that all procedures that are called women’s healthcare are designed to destroy her femininity. I can’t see that is biblical, because it is not.
Abortion destroys a child, she is not a mother but a killer. Sterilization mutilates a woman, preventing her from ever becoming a mother. Transgender procedures completely destroy her womanhood and presents her as a pretend man

In all of these instances a healthy woman and potential mother is assaulted and mutilated. This is not healthcare. Health care is designed to prevent disease. These procedures are performed on healthy women because they believe it will make their life better. That is not healthcare, but is ritual sacrifice, a religious procedure. Contraception is part of that mentality. Do you really think it is from God?

I don’t, and I also believe that it is unconstitutional to call these procedures healthcare in the United States. If they are religious procedures wouldn’t it make it difficult to make a law against them? Maybe, but the constitution also guarantees that Congress shall make no law establishing a religion. Calling them healthcare establishes a religion as the procedures are ritual sacrifice performed with the belief of the participants, not objective healthcare
Calling them ritual sacrifice would remove them from any institution which receives federal funds.
No hospital, no medical school, no clinic, no doctors office would be able to perform them, if they participated in the Medicare or Medicaid program
In ancient times there was the temple of Molech where couples could go and throw their babies into the fire. That is horrifying but it is done today under the guise of healthcare
Designating them ritual sacrifice rather than healthcare would be able to more clearly illustrate the argument instead of allowing people to be deceived it’s just healthcare

The Church honors, loves, protects and respects women, motherhood and virginity.
The ritual sacrifice just maimes and mutilates them with a false promise of freedom which mirrors the lie the serpent originally told Eve, “you shall be as gods knowing good and evil”

No I will not practice contraception or buy into that lie

 

[jas3]

The Hebrew word Yabam means to perform your duty as a brother, so evidently this duty already existed.

You are studiously ignoring that the arrangement is still a marriage.

 

[BNR32FAN]

With the advent of contraception, there is no longer the mutual respect as there is an absence of love and submission, in favor of an equal partner framework.

Nope there’s no truth to this at all. You’re just making a statement that is COMPLETELY BASED ON PERSONAL OPINION, NOT FACT. It is because of love and respect that couples have an equal partner framework. It makes absolutely zero sense that a man who dictates over his wife is exhibiting love and respect for her when he’s actually exhibiting the exact opposite towards her by viewing her opinions as being inferior to his.

 

[BNR32FAN]

In all of these instances a healthy woman and potential mother is assaulted and mutilated. This is not healthcare. Health care is designed to prevent disease. These procedures are performed on healthy women because they believe it will make their life better. That is not healthcare, but is ritual sacrifice, a religious procedure. Contraception is part of that mentality. Do you really think it is from God?

Again try to stay on topic, we’re talking about contraceptives used between husband and wife not the sinful practices of the LGBT community. What you’re doing here is trying to associate contraceptives with sexual immorality but there’s nothing immoral about intercourse between a husband and wife. Your argument here is comparable to if I were to say that knives are evil because they’ve been used to murder people when the fact is that the knife itself is innocent of any wrongdoing, it’s the murderer who used it who committed the sin, not the knife.

 

[boughtwithaprice]

Nope there’s no truth to this at all. You’re just making a statement that is COMPLETELY BASED ON PERSONAL OPINION, NOT FACT. It is because of love and respect that couples have an equal partner framework. It makes absolutely zero sense that a man who dictates over his wife is exhibiting love and respect for her when he’s actually exhibiting the exact opposite towards her by viewing her opinions as being inferior to his.

That is a false dichotomy. A righteous man does not dictate over his wife. He is commanded to love her and give himself for her. That means get to work. God commanded or cursed the man in the garden of Eden to work the Earth by the sweat of his brow. That means he is responsible for the entire household. His wife is his helpmate not his slave
A woman has the right to expect the man to work for the provisions of the household
If he does work, which is as a servant leader, a man has a reasonable expectation that his wife be subject to him. This does not make her his punching bag, blowup doll, or beast of burden. She is to support him in his leadership role. This means she does not oppose him in public, she does not fight in front of the children. She shows respect for his authority.
She also has to be aware that there is a marital debt. When she is single, her sexuality is a gift which she gives to her husband in marriage. Prior to marriage, she may withhold it if the man is not worthy.
Once she takes the marriage vows, she must not refuse a reasonable request for the marital act under pain of mortal sin. It is not righteous to use sex as a weapon or as a means to manipulate her husband. He is her husband, not her puppet. The curse which God gave Eve was, your desire will be for your husband and he shall rule over you.
What are the consequences of disobeying God? Adam was cursed to work. If he refuses, then he becomes a crybaby that wants his wife to provide for him and while he does nothing and still has demands for sex. That is not a man, but a toddler that wants a mother, not a wife. A woman has no obligation to subject herself to this situation, but if she obeys God in being subject to her husband, her faith will be rewarded

What happens if a woman disobeys God? She becomes a demanding harpy who constantly belittles her husband unless he stays in line. The thing is, if you get a beta male that does stay in line with his wife’s demands, she grows bored of him and loses respect for him. This is why you see most divorces are initiated by women today
If a woman wants to dominate a man, he is under no obligation to have intercourse with her. As the word of God says, a man that has intercourse with a harlot is one with a harlot. He sins against his own body. He is married on paper but the woman is not behaving as a wife but is in rebellion
This teaching on marriage is not taught today but it is what the word of God teaches. People do not know it, and for lack of knowledge the people perish.

You don’t have to believe me, and your mind objects to this, but you just have to read the Bible to know it is true. We also have history as our guide.
In the history of civilization, without exception, once a society abandons chastity and engages in premarital intercourse and cohabitation, it collapses in three generations with a generation being approximately 33 years
Depending on the start time, we are in the second or third generation before societal

collapse. If we take 1930 and the Lambeth conference as the start, the we are well into the third generation. If we take 1967 and the summer of love as the start then we are toward the end of the second generation.

Why does this happen? Because children watch their parents. If parents rebel against God’s teaching, so will the children but to a greater degree as they will have no memory of obedience that their parents had
Don’t believe me? Open your eyes. Everything which Paul taught in Romans 1 is coming true. The ungodly left the natural use of the woman. That does not mean homosexuality. Homosexuality is the symptom, not the cause. Leaving the natural use of a woman is to fail to honor her as a wife and mother and begin to treat her as a pleasure outlet, which is contraception.
When sex is used for pure pleasure, God has said He will abandon them to all the lusts of their heart. Look in society today. We have homosexuality, porn, masturbation, bestiality, robot sex and now even pedophilia is gaining acceptance as minor attracted persons. This is sick, but it is real and happening right before our eyes.

Does this mean Jesus is about to return? Maybe, but we are on the verge of societal collapse based on all of world history. Do you still think contraception is no big deal?

I don’t know how, and you may think Jesus is gong to return. I can only warn you that if you are not obeying Him, you will not be happy when He comes. Not everyone that says to me Lord, Lord will enter the kingdom of Heaven. Those words are scary to me.

If what I have told you is not proof enough for you. What will it take?

A scholarly work is called Sex and Culture by
J.D. Unwin. He concludes when chastity and monogamy are abandoned, society will collapse
Collapse is well underway in our culture, and it was fueled by the wide scale acceptance of contraception in the 1960s. Will we be the exception to his research, or are we doomed? I don’t know , but the sins of modern society are enough to make Sodom and Gomorrah blush. Only repentance in dust and ashes as was in Nineveh would stay God’s wrath. I don’t think it is a good idea to continue to advocate for contraception

 

[boughtwithaprice]

Again try to stay on topic, we’re talking about contraceptives used between husband and wife not the sinful practices of the LGBT community. What you’re doing here is trying to associate contraceptives with sexual immorality but there’s nothing immoral about intercourse between a husband and wife. Your argument here is comparable to if I were to say that knives are evil because they’ve been used to murder people when the fact is that the knife itself is innocent of any wrongdoing, it’s the murderer who used it who committed the sin, not the knife.

The word of God says that some preaching will sound reasonable, but we judge it by the fruits. What are the fruits of contraception?
A piece of paper does not a marriage make. A marriage is when the two become one flesh in reality, not fantasy. Can’t become one flesh with a piece of rubber or chemical between them

Matrimony is a sacrament with a spiritual component, but without the fleshly union their is no marriage

 

[BNR32FAN]

The word of God says that some preaching will sound reasonable, but we judge it by the fruits. What are the fruits of contraception?
A piece of paper does not a marriage make. A marriage is when the two become one flesh in reality, not fantasy. Can’t become one flesh with a piece of rubber or chemical between them

Matrimony is a sacrament with a spiritual component, but without the fleshly union their is no marriage

We’ve already had all the children I can afford to support and neither of us are willing to live a chaste life for the rest of our lives battling with the temptation of lust. Out of respect I will only say this, many who have tried to live a chaste life have failed quite badly at it.

 

[boughtwithaprice]

We’ve already had all the children I can afford to support and neither of us are willing to live a chaste life for the rest of our lives battling with the temptation of lust. Out of respect I will only say this, many who have tried to live a chaste life have failed quite badly at it.

Raymond Leo Cardinal Burke once remarked that those that have problems with Chastity have problems with obedience.
Our Lord says, I desire obedience rather than sacrifice.

During my life, I have had problems with Chastity, as most men do. I had prayed about it and even argued in favor of birth control. My Protestant friends said don’t worry about it, put it under the blood, Jesus knows your struggles. I still believed there was something more.

I read John of the Cross, ascent of Mt Carmel and how a Christian must deny himself as Our Lord calls us to do. The thought occurred to me, how can I ignore denying myself by using birth control when God calls me to chastity? I had no answer and admitted to God that He was right

I desired Chastity and when I completely submitted myself to the authority of the Catholic Church, went to confession and received Our Lord in the Eucharist, the desire to be unchaste left me. I did not expect it and was surprised when it happened. That was five years ago.

I did not start hating sex and become a prude, my wife is beautiful and I love her, but the constant lust and desire for sex is gone. I feel free to truly make love with my wife

It was in obedience that I admitted birth control, porn, masturbation and lust were all mortal sins that would keep me from heaven no matter how much my lips said I love Jesus. My heart had loved lust more than obedience to Our Lord.

When I realized it, there was fear and shame at the thought of having loved my life more than God. He says ask and you will receive. I asked for the grace of Chastity, He asks for holy obedience to His Church, I said yes Lord, and He granted me the grace. Now the sin that would so easily beset me was gone. If I am tempted by a woman., I immediately force myself to think, do I want to have a baby with her, as sex is ordered toward children? It is then easy to think oh no, it would be terrible to get her pregnant and have a child and the lust leaves me

When I look at my wife, I see the mother of my child, flesh of my flesh bone of my bone and she is very beautiful to me. I don’t just strive to love her and give myself for her, I actually want to do it.

When I believed in birth control and sex was for pleasure, I was at the mercy of lust, and lust is not merciful but relentless. When I admitted in obedience that sex was ordered toward children the lust left me. Sex is not a need like modern men say “I need my needs met” It is a desire thst must be broght under the control of the will for the glory of God

I am not going back. I was in chains, now I am free. If the Catholic Church is right about birth control, then they must be right about a lot more things. I strive to study them and God has rewarded me with the peace that passes understanding.
I love my Protestant brethren but I feel sorry if they do not know the freedom and joy of chastity. I am just reminded of the Protestant hymn I used to sing “Trust and obey, trust and obey, for there is no other way to be happy in Jesus than to trust and obey”

That is true, but will any actually do it or just pay lip service ? I obeyed and God gave me grace, He will do that for anybody. Just ask
You won’t regret it

 

[BNR32FAN]

Raymond Leo Cardinal Burke once remarked that those that have problems with Chastity have problems with obedience.
Our Lord says, I desire obedience rather than sacrifice.

During my life, I have had problems with Chastity, as most men do. I had prayed about it and even argued in favor of birth control. My Protestant friends said don’t worry about it, put it under the blood, Jesus knows your struggles. I still believed there was something more.

I read John of the Cross, ascent of Mt Carmel and how a Christian must deny himself as Our Lord calls us to do. The thought occurred to me, how can I ignore denying myself by using birth control when God calls me to chastity? I had no answer and admitted to God that He was right

I desired Chastity and when I completely submitted myself to the authority of the Catholic Church, went to confession and received Our Lord in the Eucharist, the desire to be unchaste left me. I did not expect it and was surprised when it happened. That was five years ago.

I did not start hating sex and become a prude, my wife is beautiful and I love her, but the constant lust and desire for sex is gone. I feel free to truly make love with my wife

It was in obedience that I admitted birth control, porn, masturbation and lust were all mortal sins that would keep me from heaven no matter how much my lips said I love Jesus. My heart had loved lust more than obedience to Our Lord.

When I realized it, there was fear and shame at the thought of having loved my life more than God. He says ask and you will receive. I asked for the grace of Chastity, He asks for holy obedience to His Church, I said yes Lord, and He granted me the grace. Now the sin that would so easily beset me was gone. If I am tempted by a woman., I immediately force myself to think, do I want to have a baby with her, as sex is ordered toward children? It is then easy to think oh no, it would be terrible to get her pregnant and have a child and the lust leaves me

When I look at my wife, I see the mother of my child, flesh of my flesh bone of my bone and she is very beautiful to me. I don’t just strive to love her and give myself for her, I actually want to do it.

When I believed in birth control and sex was for pleasure, I was at the mercy of lust, and lust is not merciful but relentless. When I admitted in obedience that sex was ordered toward children the lust left me. Sex is not a need like modern men say “I need my needs met” It is a desire thst must be broght under the control of the will for the glory of God

I am not going back. I was in chains, now I am free. If the Catholic Church is right about birth control, then they must be right about a lot more things. I strive to study them and God has rewarded me with the peace that passes understanding.
I love my Protestant brethren but I feel sorry if they do not know the freedom and joy of chastity. I am just reminded of the Protestant hymn I used to sing “Trust and obey, trust and obey, for there is no other way to be happy in Jesus than to trust and obey”

That is true, but will any actually do it or just pay lip service ? I obeyed and God gave me grace, He will do that for anybody. Just ask
You won’t regret it

Ok so you’re actually contradicting yourself here because previously you said that Christ’s instructions for married couples involved the two flesh becoming one and you said that contraceptives prevent that from happening. Now you’re advocating chastity which prevents the two flesh from becoming one. So you need to pick one or the other not just flip flop between everything that argues against contraceptives, so which is it gonna be? Two flesh become one or chastity? Because you can’t have both.

 

[boughtwithaprice]

Ok so you’re actually contradicting yourself here because previously you said that Christ’s instructions for married couples involved the two flesh becoming one and you said that contraceptives prevent that from happening. Now you’re advocating chastity which prevents the two flesh from becoming one. So you need to pick one or the other not just flip flop between everything that argues against contraceptives, so which is it gonna be? Two flesh become one or chastity? Because you can’t have both.

Chastity involves proper use of the marital act, not asexuality. Blessed are the pure of heart for they shall see God.

I do make love with my wife. Virginity is a virtue, not a disgrace, but alas I am not a virgin, but God does not require only virgins, merely our libido be brought under control of the will
My will is that I have a family according to the will of God. My flesh says to have sex any time anywhere. That is not godly behavior

Nor is it ok to watch porn and act out what I have seen, thinking it is ok because I am married. Jesus says if we lust in our heart, we have committed adultery. We are to bring every thought captive to the will of God.

By the grace of God, I have reoriented my thoughts toward love for my wife and her dignity. She is also a child of God and I am charged to care for her. That would be caritas, the Latin word for divine love. I give myself for her, not demand that she be captive to my libido when I desire so much to be free from it. Sex has proper use, and we are not ruled by it, that is chastity.

Yes I have done everything wrong in my life. I know how to live unchaste. It is to my shame yes, and I mourn the offense I have done to God, but that is no excuse to give up and keep sinning.

When I stopped my protest and bowed to God in obedience, He granted my the grace of repentance. She who used to be my rival, I now see as God wills. It is justice for me to give her the place God wills, not what my libido desires
We still have intercourse, but it is with godly intent. The word says he who hates his wife hates himself. So we can reason, He who treats his wife as a harlot is as base as a harlot. As the word also says, he sins against his own body

The devil gives us the false choice of complete abstinence vs unbridled lust that is ok because we are married. God calls us to the narrow way and straight gate, and He gives grace to walk it, if we ask

I am sorry that you feel I’ve contradicted myself, but I view chastity as libido ruled by will, not my will but God’s will. Virginity is the highest form of chastity, but marriage also has its proper place, and in some ways is more difficult.

There are so many temptations to abandon God’s will and make excuses. The spiritual battle is within. How we think, so shall we act. I choose to deny myself, not my will, but God’s be done.
Is my wife a license to lust? Or to be loved as God commands, flesh of my flesh, bone of my bone, the mother of my child?

 

[BNR32FAN]

Chastity involves proper use of the marital act, not asexuality. Blessed are the pure of heart for they shall see God.

I do make love with my wife. Virginity is a virtue, not a disgrace, but alas I am not a virgin, but God does not require only virgins, merely our libido be brought under control of the will
My will is that I have a family according to the will of God. My flesh says to have sex any time anywhere. That is not godly behavior

Nor is it ok to watch porn and act out what I have seen, thinking it is ok because I am married. Jesus says if we lust in our heart, we have committed adultery. We are to bring every thought captive to the will of God.

By the grace of God, I have reoriented my thoughts toward love for my wife and her dignity. She is also a child of God and I am charged to care for her. That would be caritas, the Latin word for divine love. I give myself for her, not demand that she be captive to my libido when I desire so much to be free from it. Sex has proper use, and we are not ruled by it, that is chastity.

Yes I have done everything wrong in my life. I know how to live unchaste. It is to my shame yes, and I mourn the offense I have done to God, but that is no excuse to give up and keep sinning.

When I stopped my protest and bowed to God in obedience, He granted my the grace of repentance. She who used to be my rival, I now see as God wills. It is justice for me to give her the place God wills, not what my libido desires
We still have intercourse, but it is with godly intent. The word says he who hates his wife hates himself. So we can reason, He who treats his wife as a harlot is as base as a harlot. As the word also says, he sins against his own body

The devil gives us the false choice of complete abstinence vs unbridled lust that is ok because we are married. God calls us to the narrow way and straight gate, and He gives grace to walk it, if we ask

I am sorry that you feel I’ve contradicted myself, but I view chastity as libido ruled by will, not my will but God’s will. Virginity is the highest form of chastity, but marriage also has its proper place, and in some ways is more difficult.

There are so many temptations to abandon God’s will and make excuses. The spiritual battle is within. How we think, so shall we act. I choose to deny myself, not my will, but God’s be done.
Is my wife a license to lust? Or to be loved as God commands, flesh of my flesh, bone of my bone, the mother of my child?

Now you’re just redefining what the word chaste actually means by applying your own preferred definition to it. What you’re really doing is trying every way you can to twist the word of God to support your agenda. The two become one flesh doesn’t mean that every time a married couple has sex they can’t use a condom because condoms didn’t even exist when Jesus made that statement. The statement was in reference to the union between a man and a woman, it was not specific instructions against using condoms that wouldn’t exist for another 1900 years. Someone who is having sex is not chaste, that the exact polar opposite of the definition of the word chaste. So don’t try to redefine words to mean the exact opposite of what they actually mean in order to cover up the fact that you did actually contradict yourself.

 

[boughtwithaprice]

Now you’re just redefining what the word chaste actually means by applying your own preferred definition to it. What you’re really doing is trying every way you can to twist the word of God to support your agenda. The two become one flesh doesn’t mean that every time a married couple has sex they can’t use a condom because condoms didn’t even exist when Jesus made that statement. The statement was in reference to the union between a man and a woman, it was not specific instructions against using condoms that wouldn’t exist for another 1900 years. Someone who is having sex is not chaste, that the exact polar opposite of the definition of the word chaste. So don’t try to redefine words to mean the exact opposite of what they actually mean in order to cover up the fact that you did actually contradict yourself.

Now you’re just redefining what the word chaste actually means by applying your own preferred definition to it. What you’re really doing is trying every way you can to twist the word of God to support your agenda. The two become one flesh doesn’t mean that every time a married couple has sex they can’t use a condom because condoms didn’t even exist when Jesus made that statement. The statement was in reference to the union between a man and a woman, it was not specific instructions against using condoms that wouldn’t exist for another 1900 years. Someone who is having sex is not chaste, that the exact polar opposite of the definition of the word chaste. So don’t try to redefine words to mean the exact opposite of what they actually mean in order to cover up the fact that you did actually contradict yourself.

I am sorry, I thought you understood Chastity. Your understanding is different, my apologies

I use the Catholic definition based on the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Virginity is a form of chastity, but not the only form


In the Catholic faith, chastity is a virtue that controls sexual desires and integrates sexuality into a person's life. It's a form of self-control that helps people express love in a holy way.

What does chastity mean?

• Chastity is a gift from God that helps people integrate their sexuality into their identity.
  
  
• It's a way to express love for others and to treat others with respect.
  
  
• • Chastity is a form of temperance, which is self-control.
    
  • Chastity is a cornerstone of holiness and happiness.
    

How is chastity practiced?

• • Chastity can be practiced absolutely, by abstaining from all voluntary sexual pleasures, or relatively, by allowing some sexual pleasures within limits.
    
  • Chastity requires sustained effort and can lead to self-mastery and peace.
    

Why is chastity important?

• • Chastity protects people from disordered sexuality and the abuse of others.
    
  • Chastity helps people live in accordance with God's will and human dignity.
    
  • Chastity helps people live in a way that honors their personhood.

 

[BNR32FAN]

I am sorry, I thought you understood Chastity. Your understanding is different, my apologies

I use the Catholic definition based on the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Virginity is a form of chastity, but not the only form


In the Catholic faith, chastity is a virtue that controls sexual desires and integrates sexuality into a person's life. It's a form of self-control that helps people express love in a holy way.

What does chastity mean?

• Chastity is a gift from God that helps people integrate their sexuality into their identity.
  
  
• It's a way to express love for others and to treat others with respect.
  
  
• • Chastity is a form of temperance, which is self-control.
  • Chastity is a cornerstone of holiness and happiness.

How is chastity practiced?

• • Chastity can be practiced absolutely, by abstaining from all voluntary sexual pleasures, or relatively, by allowing some sexual pleasures within limits.
  • Chastity requires sustained effort and can lead to self-mastery and peace.

Why is chastity important?

• • Chastity protects people from disordered sexuality and the abuse of others.
  • Chastity helps people live in accordance with God's will and human dignity.
  • Chastity helps people live in a way that honors their personhood.

I apologize for my accusations against you brother I shouldn’t have been so quick to respond impolitely. Please accept my sincere apology, I didn’t know that the RCC had a different definition for the word. I should’ve just politely pointed out the discrepancy in the definition and allowed you to respond before making accusations against you.

 

[boughtwithaprice]

I apologize for my accusations against you brother I shouldn’t have been so quick to respond impolitely. Please accept my sincere apology, I didn’t know that the RCC had a different definition for the word. I should’ve just politely pointed out the discrepancy in the definition and allowed you to respond before making accusations against you.

Thank you for your apology but I did not take offense as we were taking past eachother

Glad we saw that