God created man in God's image?

[Mallon]

Fossil is a study of bones (don't argue with trace fossils), not a study of full life. God's image is not only made of bones. That is why no bones of Jesus left for us to worship.

Keep piling on the ad hoc, juvie. It's the honest thing to do.

 

[Notedstrangeperson]

This probably didn't happen until our ancestors had large enough brains to reflect on relationships.

Interesting idea but I'm not sure brain size has as much to do with it as we may thing. Neanderthals had larger brains (and a larger brainsize-to-body) than modern man.
More recently the idea that having a large brain relative to body size is an indicator of intelligence is now being questioned. Some animals which have a low brainzise-to-body ratio are highly intelligent, such as whales and elephants. Other animals which have a high brainsize-to-body ration aren't especially intelligent, such as the mouse.

 

[Standing_Ultraviolet]

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[gluadys]

The second photo shows a women with artifical hair. It even is from a hair style website, this is not her real hair.

Black women envy the straight long hair of white women, so they spend all their money in salons using artificial methods to straighten their hair.

Yes, and white women spend money to get artificial curls. Except the ones who have naturally curly hair and want to straighten in.


The point is that they are diverse: different skin tones, different face shape, differing eyes, noses, lips, etc. There is no way you can look at these photos or many others I could have chosen and say they all look alike.

Chris Rock even did an entire film documentary called ''Good hair'' on this topic. He realised it after his daughter said to him ''why don't i have good hair'' and that she wanted long straight hair like white girls her age.

What do you expect from a culture that promotes Marilyn Monroe (or these days, Madonna or Paris Hilton) as the ideal of beauty? You expect little black girls to be immune to massive advertising? Tell a kid often enough that she (or he) is ugly and she will believe it.

 

[gluadys]

I think you didn't understand the purpose of that post. Since the Bible says only Adam was made in the image and likeness of God, would it not make sense that his phenotype would be deemed the most attractive?

Not unless God has a phenotype.

 

[Willtor]

To be fair, the most powerful anime characters tend to have blue hair... Maybe Adam had blue hair?

 

[Research1]

At this point there's nothing really left to discuss. You began with the translations of names and places in the Bible

As i have stated or further proven:

1. The authors of Genesis had a limited knowledge on geography or ethnography (see maps i already posted).

2. Genesis should be understood in its ANE context i.e meaning it was only written from the perspective of one people.

3. I have pointed out the etymology of Adam (i.e meaning ruddy, to blush, face to be red with blood) which is race related and the usage of the toledoth (''generations'') throughout Genesis - which relate to only one race or family (stock) of people who descended from Adam.

4. The Ethopia of the Old Testament was not the African Ethiopia, but an Ethopia which sat in Arabia.

- All these are valid points which scholars for the last 200 years have addressed.

and the biology / inheritance of race.

I've listed nothing but scientific facts in this thread. Facts that are accepted by everyone except you (for example even another poster pointed out how what you stated was wrong and how physical features are fixed in populations).

Clearly you are arguing against what the majority believe, what science supports, and going against common sense. The question is why?

Now your arguments have degenerated into how sexy anime girls are, why those dark people are so ugly and how everyone is being mean. It's hard to take you seriously.

This answers the OP. The thread maker is trying to understand since only Adam was made in the image of God - what his phenotype was. I have provided an answer. You seem to only be attacking my views because of your own political/racial beliefs - which actually have no relevance to this thread.

A good troll will divide and cause arguments among the users, but on this thread both the creationists and evolutionists agree your ideas on race are complete nonsense.

Polygenism is not 'complete nonsense'. In 2010 it was revived (though as an evolutionist model) by a top scientist, his research having been funded by the Indian prime minister (see link below).

Blacks, Whites and Asians have different ancestors – and did not come from Africa, claims scientist

Blacks, Whites and Asians have different ancestors – and did not come from Africa, claims scientist

 

[Notedstrangeperson]

I've listed nothing but scientific facts in this thread. Facts that are accepted by everyone except you (for example even another poster pointed out how what you stated was wrong and how physical features are fixed in populations).

You haven't added a single iota of biological 'evidence' which has not been refuted. Gluadys also pointed out that physical features are fixed in individuals, not populations.

Polygenism is not 'complete nonsense'. In 2010 it was revived (though as an evolutionist model) by a top scientist, his research having been funded by the Indian prime minister (see link below).

[From link, my emphasis] A public claim by a fellow of the prestigious Royal Geographic Society that humans did not all come from Africa — and that blacks, whites and Asians have different ancestors — has been dismissed by world experts as “dangerous”, “wrong” and “racist”
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However, Bakshi — who has no training as an anthropologist — has linked to this model a theory that these populations evolved according to the genetic material left behind when the prehistoric supercontinents, the northern Laurasia and the southern Gondwanaland, broke up.​

He is not a anthropologist and has little knowlege about anthropology. This fellow does not know what he's talking about.​

 

[barney1956]

Simply put God's image is:love,mercy,compassion,justice,etc..God created us with the same qualities he has

 

[Research1]

He is not a anthropologist and has little knowlege about anthropology. This fellow does not know what he's talking about.

I see. So you dismiss ideas without even further researching them, you are just like the fundamentalist ''out of africa'' evolutionists in the other thread i was debating who only believe in evolution and that model of origins and don't explore any alternitives. Of course, they don't research or give anything else a go - because it might crush or debunk their little worldview. That's evolutionist fundamentalism in a nutshell.

I don't know why you come to a forum, when your mind is already made up on all issues, and you think you have the answers to everything.

What evidence do you have that a polygenist model of our origins is wrong? Remember no citing wikipedia links (and no Talkorigins, i noticed that is a favourite amongst evolutionists).

 

[GadFly]

Not having read any of the post on this thread, I venture to say that most participants assume that God already went ahead and created man in his image.IMO that would be a false assumption. If God is a Spirit then it should be assumed that God is still in the process of creating man in his image.

Whoever thinks or says god is finished with his creation misunderstands the purpose of Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. Christ is the beginning and end of the creation and sanctification process. Evil and sin are much more easy to explain when framed in light of God's complete creation.

 

[Standing_Ultraviolet]

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[FaithPrevails]

MOD HAT ON

This thread has undergone a massive clean up. If one or more of your posts have been removed, they were a part of the clean up. Please stay on-topic to the OP - but stop the race discussion or the thread will be closed. PM me with any questions.

MOD HAT OFF​

 

[freezerman2000]

Simply put God's image is:love,mercy,compassion,justice,etc..God created us with the same qualities he has

My thoughts exactly...

 

[ccgems]

Man is made up of 3 forms...Body, Soul and Spirit. The body was formed (Genesis 2:7), the soul was made (Gen 2:7) and the spirit was created (Gen 1:26-27). What is the image of God? John 4:24 says it all! "God is Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth".