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God as creator

Do you believe God created the universe?

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Keachian

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If you change the applied definition then change the word.

If we did this everytime some antagonist group took our words then we'd be constantly be changing our definitions. After all the Muslim working definition of Trinity is God, Jesus and Mary.
 
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It's temporary.

No, it's completely unacceptable, we budge on how to define the Trinity, on how to define Natural we have already lost the debate. We budge on what the Gospel is and we're no longer welcoming people into the kingdom of Heaven, just our little social club.
 
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No, it's completely unacceptable, we budge on how to define the Trinity, on how to define Natural we have already lost the debate. We budge on what the Gospel is and we're no longer welcoming people into the kingdom of Heaven, just our little social club.

It's unfruitful to replace the intended definition, "not or contrary to God" with "done by God and in harmony with God" and say Darwinism is God's as a result.
 
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It's unfruitful to replace the intended definition, "not or contrary to God" with "done by God and in harmony with God" and say Darwinism is God's as a result.

Whoever said anything about Darwinism? I was talking about the word natural and it's proper use in a theistic worldview. The implications of this may be to accept evolution and deep time, however it talks more to the god's providence than his creation.
 
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I don't think God is responsible at all for creating the universe. I think it was the big bang.

The big bang is the universe (technically) so you have the universe creating itself, at what point does God the Creator of all things both in heaven and earth, visible and invisible; all things were created through him and for him. (Col 1:16)
 
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