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Miss Shelby said:
I never understood the reasoning behind supersizing anything. Who the heck needs 170 ounces of Mountain Dew in one sitting?

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:D Yea, I know what you mean. Before you know it, they'll start giving you a keg of root beer with your value meal.
 
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If McDonalds knows that their food is not as healthy as it could be, and it purposely targets individuals with weight problems, then yes, they share a portion of the guilt IMO.

Do I think that cigarette manufacturers knew that their product was unhealthy (yes) and that they targetted specific people for their product (yes), and by consequence they are guilty as well as those who smoked their product? Yes, I do.
 
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nyj said:
If McDonalds knows that their food is not as healthy as it could be, and it purposely targets individuals with weight problems, then yes, they share a portion of the guilt IMO.
How does McDonalds target individuals with weight problems? I'm not challenging you, I just want to know.
 
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DreamTheater said:
Do grocery stores share some of the guilt with those who are gluttonous? What about farmers?

People have got to eat to live. Nobody needs the pill.

Agree 100%

Maybe its different over there, but here, you can pick up a leaflet at any McDonalds which has the nutrition information of all their products. No trickery involved.
 
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DreamTheater said:
How does McDonalds target individuals with weight problems? I'm not challenging you, I just want to know.

When you say you sell health food, but your health food (salad with dressing) contains more grams of fat than your Big Mac, you're not being honest with your consumers. So, an obese person, familar with McDonalds thinks: Hey, I'll have a salad, it's healthy... and by consequence, they eat two times as many grams of fat in that salad than if they'd just eaten the Big Mac.
 
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nyj said:
Oh, quit exaggerating... it's only 44 ounces. ;)
It wouldn't even fit in my cup holder in my car.

BTW, NYJ, I have recently become re addicted to diet pepsi and guess what? I got three Jets caps and I can get a free t shirt. I thought about you. :)

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nyj said:
When you say you sell health food, but your health food (salad with dressing) contains more grams of fat than your Big Mac, you're not being honest with your consumers. So, an obese person, familar with McDonalds thinks: Hey, I'll have a salad, it's healthy... and by consequence, they eat two times as many grams of fat in that salad than if they'd just eaten the Big Mac.
Interesting. Is this a fact or are you just using this as a hypothetical example?
 
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DreamTheater said:
Interesting. Is this a fact or are you just using this as a hypothetical example?

That's a fact. Their ranch dressing salad (if you use the ranch dressing that comes with it, and who wouldn't) contains 51 grams of fat. The Big Mac has 34. (Ok, not double, but close... a bit of an exaggeration on my part).

Their Chicken Ceasar Salad has 18 grams of fat. Their cheeseburger has 11.
 
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Jamme said:
Correct.
A good salad dressing is made with 4/5 olive oil :yum:

However... we all know this... and it's written plain and simple in the leaflets in the McDonalds restaurants.

Yes, and cigarette manufacturers have warnings on their products as well. But, that still doesn't absolve them from all guilt. They purposely market people who will succumb to the impulse to eat (or smoke) things that they should not eat (or smoke).

I never said that McDonalds should accept sole responsibility for gluttony... I dare you to find a quote where I said such... I merely said, they do share that guilt, even if it's a small portion.
 
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nyj said:
That's a fact. Their ranch dressing salad (if you use the ranch dressing that comes with it, and who wouldn't) contains 51 grams of fat. The Big Mac has 34. (Ok, not double, but close... a bit of an exaggeration on my part).

Their Chicken Ceasar Salad has 18 grams of fat. Their cheeseburger has 11.
I did not know that...

I'm not a health expert at all, but I thnk there's a lot more to a food being healthy than the amount of fat.
 
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DreamTheater said:
I did not know that...

I'm not a health expert at all, but I thnk there's a lot more to a food being healthy than the amount of fat.

High fat diets can cause lots of problems. They are a direct link to heart disease, and studies have shown that high fat diets may also contribute to alzheimers too. So, while fat may not be the only consideration in a diet, it does have a major impact on quality of life.

As with anything, moderation is key, as well as living a healthy lifestyle outside of the kitchen. In America, the fattest country in the world (and thereby, rightful heir to the claim of "Gluttony Capital of the World"), healthy lifestyle choices frequently seem to be ignored.
 
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nyj said:
High fat diets can cause lots of problems. They are a direct link to heart disease, and studies have shown that high fat diets may also contribute to alzheimers too. So, while fat may not be the only consideration in a diet, it does have a major impact on quality of life.
I'm not going to argue with this. Your the biologist, I'm the kid who barely pulled off a C in high school Biology. :p
 
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Did you know that many people have resistance to their own insulin and they don't even know it? (meaning they could have diabetes or eventually will if they don't lay off the lard..)-- And they think it could be caused by being overweight and eating alot of high fat foods.

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Jamme said:
Fat is essential in any diet.
It only causes a problem when taken in excess and has a detrimental effect on health.

Exactly, so why would we exonerate a company that markets a salad as healthy when it contains 51 grams of fat? The recommended daily intake of fat is 65 grams (20 of which are supposed to be saturated fatty acids). That salad pretty much takes up the entire recommended daily intake, rendering it... IMNSHO, not a very healthy item to be eating. Yet, McDonalds touts it as a healthy choice.

No guilt there? You sure?
 
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