Gluttony

[Irenaeus]

Shelby,

I don't think there is a litmus test for when you know you are truly being gluttonous, but these are like the guidelines.

Some people have bigger stomachs than others...some days you may be extremely hungry...some people may need to be dainty because they have some sort of allergy. One must be sensitive to the Holy Spirit and honestly ask themselves these five questions regarding their food and drink intake.

You know what I mean?

 

[Miss Shelby]

I know what you mean, but in my case when I eat too fast I think it's gluttonous. I really do. I have made all kinds of excuses for it too, like working in a hospital you can't take long lunch breaks so you have to snarf your food down...and that add's to it. And I have also used the excuse that since I was raised in poverty and rarely had a decent meal, I tend to woof it down fast cause I don't know when or where the next meal will come from or if it will.

But those are just excuses and I really do need to watch it, because it can't be healthy.

Michelle

 

[Irenaeus]

Shelby,

God's way tends to be the healthiest.

 

[BornCath]

Gluttony isn't just about eating. Although that is what most of us associated with. Gluttony is basically a grosse over abundance way over the needs of a person. Whether eating or accumulating material things

AMEN to that, lionroar0. Add to that too much talking and watching TV makes one a glutton.

 

[StarSapphire]

McDonalds can hardly be BLAMED for gluttony - they merely provide the stuff people use to gluttonize.

Easy answer to that one - don't go to McDonalds, eat real food at home. Its cheaper, healthier, nicer.... in fact I cant think of any reason whatsoever why people would want to eat at McDonalds.

Except maybe a child, because they get a toy with their happy meal

I'm a grownup, and I enjoy the toys with a happy meal!

Seriously, I do not really like too much of McD's food, unless we are traveling, and we can stop for a quick bite to eat. Wouldn't want it on a regular basis...

 

[ukok]

As the resident OBOB fat person, i suppose i should contribute to this converation...there!

 

[Jamme]

driving a 4 wheel drive when you dont live on a farm or a mountain

 

[ukok]

driving a 4 wheel drive when you dont live on a farm or a mountain

I have to laugh about that one! My uncle is about 67 and has just gone up a model to a grand cherokee, just to go down to B & Q and Sainsbury's! What a big kid!

Totally feeds his ego!

 

[Jamme]

tell him he is a gluttonous sinner ukok

 

[Dream]

driving a 4 wheel drive when you dont live on a farm or a mountain

I agree.

 

[ukok]

tell him he is a gluttonous sinner ukok

I don't think he could care less!... He's non-Christian.

I think it's immoral to spend that much money on a car, but it's his business, i guess

 

[Markh]

I am not convinced, I think that gluttoney is eating when you no longer require food to survive.

if food is treated anything above a survival necessity then it is gluttony

 

[Irenaeus]

I think we can expand gluttony to just general intemperance.

Temperance is one of the four cardinal virtues, and it has two particular counters in lust and gluttony; both have to do with inordinate appetites.

Anything to excess, whether recreation, sports, eating, drinking, etc. can be harmful. Only God is not harmful to us, and there is no problem as long as we fulfill the duties of our state.

 

[Jamme]

iraneus why is your rep switched off?

 

[Dream]

iraneus why is your rep switched off?

The system was getting flooded. CF doesn't have enough bandwidth.

 

[Irenaeus]

A couple reasons.

A) I want people to pray for me and for others. I posted on another thread that if anyone wants to give me rep points, I want them instead to pray a Hail Mary if they are Catholic or a prayer to the Theotokos if they are Orthodox and don't know the Hail Mary, or an our Father is they are Protestant...both for me, and for the unborn.
B) I want to post for goodness, not so I can get reputation points, as I have been having the temptation to do.

My knowledge is at your service. If there is any praise, let it go to God that gives me these gifts. All of our gifts are for the edification of the body. May his holy name be praised.

 

[Aaron-Aggie]

Part 3, Section 1, Chapter 1, Article 8, SubSection 5



1866 Vices can be classified according to the virtues they oppose, or also be linked to the capital sins which Christian experience has distinguished, following St. John Cassian and St. Gregory the Great. They are called "capital" because they engender other sins, other vices. 138 They are pride, avarice, envy, wrath, lust, gluttony, and sloth or acedia.



Gregory the Great, Moralia in Job 31, 45

The leader of the devil's army is pride whose progeny are the seven principal vices. While there are vices which attack us in an invisible warfare under the leadership of pride, some behave like officers and others like troops. For not all faults occupy the heart from the same quarter. But while the greater and less frequently-occurring faults can overcome a mind not on its guard, the lesser but more numerous faults pour in en mass. And once pride, the queen of vices, has fully conquered a heart, she soon hands it over to the seven principal vices, or to her generals. The army follows these generals for there is no doubt that persistence multitudes of vices follow them. We will better be able to demonstrate this if we enumerate these leaders and the army. Certainly the root of all evils is pride, of which Scripture says, "Pride is the origin of all sin" (Eccl. 10:15). The first of her progeny are certainly the seven principal vices which came forth from the virulent root, namely, vainglory, envy, anger, sloth, avarice, gluttony, lust. And because he grieved at our being held captive by pride's seven vices, our Redeemer wages a spiritual war of liberation for us, filled with a spirit of a sevenfold grace.



From the dictonary

Pride: An excessively high opinion of oneself; conceit.
Envy: A feeling of discontent and resentment aroused by and in conjunction with desire for the possessions or qualities of another.
Anger: A strong feeling of displeasure or hostility.
sloth: Aversion to work or exertion; laziness; indolence.
avarice: Immoderate desire for wealth; cupidity.
gluttony: Excess in eating or drinking.
lust: Intense or unrestrained sexual craving.