Global Warming

[Kris_J]

Should Christians be leading the way in protecting "God's Creations" - ie. animals, humans & our environment - from global warming?

It seems that the pro-gay, Green movement is more concerned about God's Creations than Christians.

 

[FadingWhispers3]

Christians should care for the world since christians believe that it is not they themselves who own the cattle on a thousand hills. If people treat their own possessions with care, how much more so somebody else's possessions for which we must give an account!

 

[Norea]

Current evidence suggests Global Warming is natural. Sorry I watch too much Penn and Teller, muahahahaha!

-- Bridget

 

[Beoga]

the kyoto protocol treaty topic is the mst boring topic in the entire world

 

[Kris_J]

the kyoto protocol treaty topic is the mst boring topic in the entire world

So environmental issues does not strike a chord in you as a Christian?

 

[billwald]

This will probably get bounced, but seems to be that Dispensational theology doesn't care because the good guys will be Raptured next week and the bad guys get Tribulation. Reformed people try to make the world a better place for their grandkids.

 

[Faithful nonbeliever]

Well being that it has so far been 2000 years without a whisper, you'd think that it would be important to everyone. For all you know it could be 50,000 more years or never. I for one would like my descendents to at least have a chance on this god-forsaken world. It isn't our sandbox to destroy.

 

[Prometheus_ash]

Even if global warming turns out to be crock (pen and teller Bull**** is a great show though) I would still be for the reduction of pollution and environmental standards pulry for asthetic reasons. Oceans are much more beutiful without grime and oil in them, as are our forests, sky, and plains.

Also, excess pollution in the air has been show to lead to health problems such as an increased rate of asthma and possibly cancer, amoung other things. Anceint Greek and Roman statues in Greece are decaying far more rapidly than they should due to excess pollutants in the air, raising the risk of potentially loosing priceless historical artifacts and works fo art.

I am unsure why christians should be especially concerned though, since the world is goign to be ending any day now...

 

[Beoga]

So environmental issues does not strike a chord in you as a Christian?

all i said that it is a boring topic, i have to write a paper on it for english, and frankely it is not a topic that i am big about. yes, as a christian i do care about the environment because I do believe that God has entrusted humans the care of this earth. Yet, it is not my "cup of tea" if you know what i mean.

 

[Kris_J]

all i said that it is a boring topic, i have to write a paper on it for english, and frankely it is not a topic that i am big about. yes, as a christian i do care about the environment because I do believe that God has entrusted humans the care of this earth. Yet, it is not my "cup of tea" if you know what i mean.

Christians are not traditionally interested at all in the environment - with all that "dominion" over the earth etc attitude really encourages the environment to be taken for granted & therefore as boring. The lack of environmental interest among Christians is really a big flaw for Christianity.

What is your thesis about then specifically? It may be more interesting to you if you include the role of Christianity with our modern attitudes toward the environment.

 

[kedaman]

Christians are not traditionally interested at all in the environment - with all that "dominion" over the earth etc attitude really encourages the environment to be taken for granted & therefore as boring. The lack of environmental interest among Christians is really a big flaw for Christianity.

What is your thesis about then specifically? It may be more interesting to you if you include the role of Christianity with our modern attitudes toward the environment.

Actually I don't see how it could be a flaw. There's no intrinsic good in the environment for the Christian, because all intrinsic good reside in heaven, therefore all in the environment may only have utility value. But on this premise I would say that Christians should take better care of the environment than anybody else, because we were sent to give life, not to live.

 

[Kris_J]

Actually I don't see how it could be a flaw. There's no intrinsic good in the environment for the Christian, because all intrinsic good reside in heaven, therefore all in the environment may only have utility value. But on this premise I would say that Christians should take better care of the environment than anybody else, because we were sent to give life, not to live.

If man was assigned by God to be the steward of earth & its creatures - then if man is the cause for the infertility on earth killing its vegetation & its creatures become extinct: well that makes Christians failures as stewards. God will judge them by their fruits.

 

[kedaman]

If man was assigned by God to be the steward of earth & its creatures - then if man is the cause for the infertility on earth killing its vegetation & its creatures become extinct: well that makes Christians failures as stewards. God will judge them by their fruits.

if you call them Christians.. I wouldn't.

 

[Kris_J]

if you call them Christians.. I wouldn't.

Are you saying that Christians who do not care much about the environment are not Christians? I believe they are - I am sure there are Christian loggers harvesting non-renewable forests for a living - & we all benefit from their product.

 

[kedaman]

Not at all. But lets take a concept such as renewable, and what makes a resource renewable and what makes it not renewable? Harvesting forests doesn't exclude the option of growing up new forests. Fossil fuels have been formed during millions of years, but if they'd be non-renewable then that would have been impossible. So what is essentially non-renewable? What is it that is irreversabily lost at its consumption? Energy is never created or destroyed, so what happens in all chemical reactions is a reduction of its form, into a less utilizable form - entropy. Nature is indestructible as it is in itself, what is lost is its utility form. Christians concern is to fullfill this form, not destroy it. Therefore, their concern of the environment should in fact be more than anyone else.

 

[MoodyBlue]

Should Christians be leading the way in protecting "God's Creations" - ie. animals, humans & our environment - from global warming?

It seems that the pro-gay, Green movement is more concerned about God's Creations than Christians.

Given that we live in the midst of God's creation, I think we honor God by taking care of this planet. Anyone who professes to be "pro-life" should be "pro-environment", right? So, Christians should be leading the way in combating global warming.

 

[Archivist]

There's no intrinsic good in the environment for the Christian, because all intrinsic good reside in heaven, therefore all in the environment may only have utility value.

Go walk along Iceberg Lake in Glacier National Park. Listen to the sound of the constant wind as it sweeps over the mountains. Feel the breeze on your face. Watch the ice crystals as they wash upon the shore. Dip your toes into the ice-cold water. See the moose and bear as they wander through the neaby woods. Then come tell me that there is "no intrinsic good in the environment" and that it has "only utility value."

 

[Prometheus_ash]

Go walk along Iceberg Lake in Glacier National Park. Listen to the sound of the constant wind as it sweeps over the mountains. Feel the breeze on your face. Watch the ice crystals as they wash upon the shore. Dip your toes into the ice-cold water. See the moose and bear as they wander through the neaby woods. Then come tell me that there is "no intrinsic good in the environment" and that it has "only utility value."

I agree, if for no other reason, nature is worthy of being preserved for purely asthetic reasons.

 

[Beoga]

Christians are not traditionally interested at all in the environment - with all that "dominion" over the earth etc attitude really encourages the environment to be taken for granted & therefore as boring. The lack of environmental interest among Christians is really a big flaw for Christianity.
What is your thesis about then specifically? It may be more interesting to you if you include the role of Christianity with our modern attitudes toward the environment.

hopefully this doesn't make me hypocritical, but i do agree that we christians do need to push more for the environment, i know i need to speak up about it more, but i am not going to pursue roles and debates about the environment. i think most christians feel they need to go after the areas about saving the life of a human (abortion) more than go after saving the life of a tree (environment). Christians should be concerned about both, but i don't think they need to be equally concerned about both and pursue the enviroment just as much as lets say, abortion.

my thesis is that bush was right for rejecting the treaty and russia should have rejected it also because it would have hurt the american economy and jobs, and it could hurt russia's economic growth/revory. also the facts about what the treaty will do has not been scientifically proven.

 

[Trogdor the Burninator]

Should Christians be leading the way in protecting "God's Creations" - ie. animals, humans & our environment - from global warming?

It seems that the pro-gay, Green movement is more concerned about God's Creations than Christians.

I reckon Christians should - as part of God-given stewardship over nature and it's resources - be concerned about the environment ( whatever you think of global warming ).

I think the Greens come across as more concerned partly because it is their total focus ( whereas Christians are also concerned about other issues ) and because they often take a more extreme view that gets good press. The Christian viewpoint of good management/stewardship makes great sense but is a fairly boring grab for the 7-o'clock news.