Global Warming---Oops!!

[bhsmte]

BHSMTE, note how the WARMING stories are never trumpeted by our "skeptic" friends.

The sad part is they don't even come close to understand how silly their approach at CHERRY PICKING makes their position.

Couple that with the fact that no one with even a MODICUM of science thinks that any one given weather pattern (warm OR cold) in any one place means jack to this debate.

The reason I like to respond to this silliness is in hopes that this sort of anti-science ignorance won't spread to others.

Clearly NHE and Mach have not even an inkling of basic science let alone how graphs or data works, so they are like it says in Proverbs 26:11

(The Bible really does help us understand people sometimes! Words of wisdom. If only wisdom were "valued" anymore.)

I understand fully where this reaction comes from, it is very transparent for anyone who has the ability to observe.

So lets see; if Chicago doesn't have any murders for a few days, that would mean the murder rate issue was false correct?

If a major league baseball team is in first place in September and is 30 games over .500, but they lose 3 straight games, does that mean winning all those games in April, May, June, July and August are now meaningless and the team now sucks?

I just get a kick out of the methods used to convince oneself that their ideology is still intact.

 

[AirPo]

If a major league baseball team is in first place in September and is 30 games over .500, but they lose 3 straight games, does that mean winning all those games in April, May, June, July and August are now meaningless and the team now sucks?

Only if it is the Cubs.

 

[TScott]

This is cute...

 

[bhsmte]

Only if it is the Cubs.

That may be the one legit outlier, yes.

 

[NightHawkeye]

Clearly NHE and Mach have not even an inkling of basic science let alone how graphs or data works ...

Pat Benatar - Hit Me With Your Best Shot lyrics - YouTube

 

[1Sam15]

Then show us some indication that you do! Honestly! I would WELCOME any indication from EITHER of you that you guys "get" what noise on a graph means or that local =/= global.

Laugh all you want but I HONESTLY have never seen any indication that you have an idea of what "noise" in data looks like.

You keep posting these "one single data point" threads that don't mean a thing!

If you tried this sort of thing in a science class (even a high school science class) your teacher would set you aside and teach you that real data has noise!

This is really, really simple stuff!

 

[stamperben]

Pat Benatar - Hit Me With Your Best Shot lyrics - YouTube

Is that seriously the best you could do?

 

[bhsmte]

Is that seriously the best you could do?

Looks like it.

 

[NightHawkeye]

Is that seriously the best you could do?

In all seriousness, I responded commensurately to the criticism ... with all due respect.

 

[1Sam15]

In all seriousness, I responded commensurately to the criticism ... with all due respect.

Well, Nighthawkeye, you have never respondeded to the original point which I raised quite some time ago when I saw one of your earlier "single data point" type threads.

WHY would you bother posting information about ONE event in ONE AREA as if it were in any way related to global warming????

You see, it would be as irrational as someone here posting a picture of a hot, hot day in France and saying "Seeeeeee! Global warming is real!"

NEITHER is right! A single data point high or low is just NOISE and doesn't give any information about the trend!

That's ALWAYS been the point! ALWAYS.

Yet you keep posting threads about "oh it's cold in Duluth!" etc.

And then people like Mach who doesn't even begin to know anything but what he reads on the intarwebs feels emboldened to make similarly baseless points as well.

The reason I take you to task over this simple, simple, simple concept is because you don't seem to "get" it.

This is data around a best-fit line:

What YOU are doing is focusing on ONE POINT and saying "THE TREND ISN'T RIGHT!"

Imagine if you focused ONLY ON the one point here. What would you know about the TREND?

NOTHING. NOT. A. THING.

Yet that is EXACTLY what all these pointless threads are like!!!

 

[MachZer0]

Then show us some indication that you do! Honestly! I would WELCOME any indication from EITHER of you that you guys "get" what noise on a graph means or that local =/= global.

Laugh all you want but I HONESTLY have never seen any indication that you have an idea of what "noise" in data looks like.

You keep posting these "one single data point" threads that don't mean a thing!

If you tried this sort of thing in a science class (even a high school science class) your teacher would set you aside and teach you that real data has noise!

This is really, really simple stuff!

What would the teacher of your civics class say if you continually delved into science in his class?

 

[1Sam15]

What would the teacher of your civics class say if you continually delved into science in his class?

If I came into class spouting stuff that indicated I had no earthly idea what the US Constitution was you can BET that I'd be called to task.

So, it's the same thing.

YOU wanna talk about how fake global warming is? Fine! You better learn the SCIENCE first.

Because so far every post you make showing your ignorance of the BASIC SCIENCE behind this makes any point you want to make about the POLICY IMPLICATIONS exactly meaningless.

 

[bhsmte]

If I came into class spouting stuff that indicated I had no earthly idea what the US Constitution was you can BET that I'd be called to task.

So, it's the same thing.

YOU wanna talk about how fake global warming is? Fine! You better learn the SCIENCE first.

Because so far every post you make showing your ignorance of the BASIC SCIENCE behind this makes any point you want to make about the POLICY IMPLICATIONS exactly meaningless.

But....they have pictures of ice and snow....

 

[MachZer0]

If I came into class spouting stuff that indicated I had no earthly idea what the US Constitution was you can BET that I'd be called to task.

So, it's the same thing.

YOU wanna talk about how fake global warming is? Fine! You better learn the SCIENCE first.

Because so far every post you make showing your ignorance of the BASIC SCIENCE behind this makes any point you want to make about the POLICY IMPLICATIONS exactly meaningless.

You dodged the question

 

[MachZer0]

But....they have pictures of ice and snow....

Pictures of no ice and snow, global warming. Pictures of ice and snow, global warming. Heads I win, tails you lose.

 

[Loudmouth]

What would the teacher of your civics class say if you continually delved into science in his class?

What would the teacher of your civics class say if you told her that you watched a person for 5 minutes one day, and no one violated their constitutional rights. Therefore, it is impossible that anyone has ever had their constitutional rights violated.

 

[Loudmouth]

Pictures of no ice and snow, global warming. Pictures of ice and snow, global warming. Heads I win, tails you lose.

Breaking news!!!! Winter proves Global Warming wrong!!!

Are you guys serious with this stuff?

 

[MachZer0]

What would the teacher of your civics class say if you told her that you watched a person for 5 minutes one day, and no one violated their constitutional rights. Therefore, it is impossible that anyone has ever had their constitutional rights violated.

Another dodge.

 

[MachZer0]

Breaking news!!!! Winter proves Global Warming wrong!!!

Are you guys serious with this stuff?

This thread is about ]unexpected excessive ice, IN THE SUMMER

 

[bhsmte]

Pictures of no ice and snow, global warming. Pictures of ice and snow, global warming. Heads I win, tails you lose.

Absolutely, this is the first winter in a long time I have seen ice and snow. I think you are own to something.