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You subservience to a different viewpoint is acknowledged.
How much pride can I have to endure continual berating by you?
Sigh ... and some wonder why their posts are reported for rules violations.
Personally, I'd recommend sticking to facts, as per your claimed scientific training ... and leave the acerbic diatribe to political wonks.
How much pride can I have to endure continual berating by you?
Personally, I'd recommend sticking to facts, as per your claimed scientific training ... and leave the acerbic diatribe to political wonks.
But, that's just my recommendation ...
For the record, I actually do appreciate it when you know what you're talking about.
Let's start with basics. Here's a map:Turney's expedition's goal was, among other things to investigate the East Antarctic Ice Sheet.
THIS IS LAND-BASED ICE....NOT SEA ICE.
Please get this part straight before you mischaracterize what happened here!
PLEASE LEARN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LAND AND SEA. It is CRUCIAL.
In addition they were going to look at Southern Ocean currents. Guess what?
Yeah, they did that!
But the key here is you and the rest of the non-scientists think all ice is the same! In this case it makes a HUGE difference because of what happened!
The Akademik got stuck because of DRIFTING SEA ICE due to polar circulation! It fits with various aspects of what we know is happening in the Southern Ocean. AND the fact that they got stuck in ICE doesn't change the fact that OTHER LAND-ICE is disappearing.
This key difference is the MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THIS STORY and the fact that you guys can't keep this straight only makes your "critiques" look sillier and sillier and sillier with each passing post!
Do you realize that when you conflate SEA and LAND ice you you make your position scientifically WEAKER?
Thinning ice is due to global warming, and excessive ice, of course, is also due to global warming. Or so we're toldLet's start with basics. Here's a map:
Commonwealth Bay, where the Akademik Shokalskiy is stuck in ice can be seen in the lower right quadrant. It's part of "Eastern Antarctica", where glaciers have been increasing for the past couple of decades. Reports from Antarctica indicate that sea ice filling the harbor is largely from the adjacent Mertz glacier.
Here's an interesting article on the matter: An icy blast of scepticism | The AustralianGRAINY film footage from Douglas Mawson's epic Antarctic survey and expedition provides lasting proof that when the adventurer's team reached Commonwealth Bay exactly 100 years ago, it was free of sea ice.
It is a historical fact that some people argue can only add to acute embarrassment for Australian climate scientist Chris Turney, the carbon entrepreneur and head of climate science at the University of NSW, whose Antarctic mission has come to a frozen dead stop.
Turney's team of embedded global media and paying science-minded tourists has spent the festive season trapped in sea ice instead of exploring what melting ice caps mean for mankind.
Rather than disappearing poles, for more than a week global attention has been focused on the fact that in recent years Antarctic ice has been growing, not shrinking as in the Arctic.
Let's start with basics. Here's a map:
Commonwealth Bay, where the Akademik Shokalskiy is stuck in ice can be seen in the lower right quadrant. It's part of "Eastern Antarctica", where glaciers have been increasing for the past couple of decades. Reports from Antarctica indicate that sea ice filling the harbor is largely from the adjacent Mertz glacier.
Here's an interesting article on the matter: An icy blast of scepticism | The AustralianGRAINY film footage from Douglas Mawson's epic Antarctic survey and expedition provides lasting proof that when the adventurer's team reached Commonwealth Bay exactly 100 years ago, it was free of sea ice.
It is a historical fact that some people argue can only add to acute embarrassment for Australian climate scientist Chris Turney, the carbon entrepreneur and head of climate science at the University of NSW, whose Antarctic mission has come to a frozen dead stop.
Turney's team of embedded global media and paying science-minded tourists has spent the festive season trapped in sea ice instead of exploring what melting ice caps mean for mankind.
Rather than disappearing poles, for more than a week global attention has been focused on the fact that in recent years Antarctic ice has been growing, not shrinking as in the Arctic.
In pursuit of science about what is actually happening here, noting yet again that glaciers across Eastern Antarctica have been growing rather than retreating ... Large Iceberg breaks off Antarctica's Mertz Glacier | Science DailyWhen a glacier thins it increases the speed with which it slides out into the water if it is in contact with the shoreline.
From HERE:
Not that this is necessarily what is happening here, it is helpful to get some SCIENCE in front of you yet again.
That's so the global warming religionists can claim global warming whether the ice is thinning or expanding
