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CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
One thing I've noticed about bullies and villains over a long period of time is that they all seem to excel at accusing others of the kinds of things that they themselves habitually perpetrate.
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I mean, basically, the evidence, including evidence from NOAA itself, has been in a bit too long and it is too thorough for anybody to believe that a reasonable person could still be promoting the idea of anthropogenic global warming.
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(At the risk of further thread derailing), no I don't believe that, and I also find it hard to believe that we twice elected a Chicago politician. The state of Illinois certainly didn't invent political corruption, but it has a long tradition of refining it to a fine art.
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Simple question. Does increasing the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere increase the amount of heat trapped on the Earth?
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Any more than so tiny a drop in the bucket as to not be worth a rational person worrying about? The answer is no, it doesn't.
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"Come now, you who say, "Today or tomorrow we will go to such and such a city, and spend a year there and engage in business and make a profit." Yet you do not know what your life will be like tomorrow, You are just a vapor that appears for a little while and then vanishes away. Instead, you ought to say, "If the Lord wills, we will live and also do this or that." James 4:13-15
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You and I are here for a very short time. The earth is likewise here for a very short time. Let's be blunt. The whole question of global warming is a moral/religious question. Speakingly scientifically, I don't give a flip about this little blue dot called earth. I can't come up with any rational reason to care. I didn't know my great-great grandparents, and I'll probably never know my great-great grandchildren.
Even if everything you think about global warming is true, if you want to convince me that I should care about posterity, we need to move this thread to the Morality or Philosophy forum.
Again, I don't care about General Motors or Toyota Corp. or about this earth, unless you can give me a reason to care, which reason will necessarily be moral and/or religious.
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