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$$$ Giving... how much is enough?

Discussion in 'Non-denominational' started by Droobie, Feb 21, 2002.

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  1. Droobie

    Droobie Rebmem Raluger

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    Malach 3:10
    Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this," says the Lord Almighty, "and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that you will not have room enough for it.

    Matthew 6:1-4
    "Be careful not to do your 'acts of righteousness' before men, to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven. "So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."

    2 Corinthians 9:6-11
    Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously. Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. And God is able to make all grace abound to you, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work. As it is written: "He has scattered abroad his gifts to the poor; his righteousness endures forever." Now he who supplies seed to the sower and bread for food will also supply and increase your store of seed and will enlarge the harvest of your righteousness. You will be made rich in every way so that you can be generous on every occasion, and through us your generosity will result in thanksgiving to God.



    How much should we give? Where is all this money going come from? Where should the money go?
     
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  2. JohnR7

    JohnR7 Well-Known Member

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    God requires 10% for to maintain the church. As far as I know, that should go into the general fund. If we are a elder we have some say in how it is spent, otherwise we do not.

    Beyond that, it is a free will offering. For building funds or missions or whatever. That is our money and so we can designate where it goes. God will bless it, and always give us more than we gave.

    Abraham paid Tithe to Melchizedek of salam, which is now Jerusalam. Genesis 14:18 "Then Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine; he was the priest of God Most High." That was 700 years before the law was given.

    God loves a cheerful giver though. I do not think He wants us to give out of compulsion or obligation. He really does want to work a attitude in our heart so we give cheerfully and heartly. There is even a annointing for giving. In our church, the giving part is just as annointed as anything else. I have seen our pastor raise up to one million dollars in a half hour or less of time. I know he could not have done that if God had not already done a work in the people. Because I have seen other times he had problems to raise aaround $60,000, for whatever the cause was. Thanks, JohnR7
     
  3. Hishandmaiden

    Hishandmaiden The Humble Servant Supporter

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    Hmm.... God wants us to give, volunteeringly, not out of obligations.
     
  4. solo66 man

    solo66 man Well-Known Member

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    What is it all worth to you?
     
  5. solo66 man

    solo66 man Well-Known Member

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    Is there ever enough?
     
  6. Wave

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    there is never enough!
     
  7. Wave

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    but we have to give with our hearts not with our hands...cuz if we just give with our hands it's not worth anything...
     
  8. solo66 man

    solo66 man Well-Known Member

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    I agree. We cannot give and think it is going to get us into heaven
    or that we are doing God any special favors.
     
  9. zamar

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    Giving the Tithe is as much worship as singing or praising God. It's all about attitude.

    Z
     
  10. InspectorVol

    InspectorVol Regular Member

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    It does not say to give 10% in the New Testament it says to give with a cheerful heart and as you have been prospered. That could be 10% or 5% or 2% or it could be 50% or 75% but Jesus never said to give a specific amount.
     
  11. StogusMaximus

    StogusMaximus Well-Known Member

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    We should give because we want to support the church. We should give what we can.

    We should do this because it is a form of worship, not because we are obligated to.

    God is the source of all things. God will provide for his church, with or without your donations.
     
  12. zamar

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    Inspectorvol,

    The only thing that Jesus ever commended the Pharasees for was their Tithing. I see that as a carryover form the OT to the NT.

    (Just my opinion)

    Z
     
  13. InspectorVol

    InspectorVol Regular Member

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    OK.
     
  14. Blackhawk

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    Zamar,

    I agree that 10% is biblical but I think that it is a principle and not a hard fast rule. What I mean is that we must remember the spirit of the law and the spirit of our worship to God. If some one can't give 10% to God becasue they are very poor then I think that they give as they can and they still are worshipping God. A little caution here because many who say that they can't give that much really can if they just gave up their wants (cds, going ou to eat, etc.) a little for God and His work. But for the ones who are really poor I thik that God is going to accept what they can give as long as their heart is in the right place.

    blackhaw6
     
  15. zamar

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    I don't disagree,
    I do see it as a principal also. Like I stated earlier, It is tied to Worship. We put our money where our heart is.
    For those who simply cannot afford it, Whatever they do give is received and blessed of God. (Remember the Widow's mite)

    Z
     
  16. Blackhawk

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    Zamar,

    I agree. Everything is God's and one way in which we worship God is to freely give whatever He neeeds of it back to Him. I like what I heard in a sermon once.

    Sometimes we lift hands when we sing. When we do it we do it with open fists and with palms up. The reason why is because we are opening up our hands so that God can give and/or take anything He wants from our lives freely. We are giving everything we have, even ourselves, to God fully. They are His to do with as He pleases. That is true worship.

    blackahw6
     
  17. zamar

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    I look at it this way. By lifting open hands to the Lord we are in fact "casting our cares on Him" and recognizing that He "cares for us".

    Good post Blackahw6.
     
  18. Josephus

    Josephus <b>Co-Founder Christian Forums</b> Supporter

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    um, we ARE the church. thus everything we do should be in a giving and huble attitude before the Lord. EVERYTHING we do.
     
  19. Droobie

    Droobie Rebmem Raluger

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    So if we can give with the 'right' attitude, can we also not believe in prosperity with the same attitude?
     
  20. LouisBooth

    LouisBooth Well-Known Member

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    "If some one can't give 10% to God becasue they are very poor then I think that they give as they can and they still are worshipping God. "

    If someone can't give 10% the church isn't doing its job then to support its own. The thing to go on is what a church I went to awhile go said, "not equals gifts but equal sacrifice." And like the Lord our God says, "I want your obeience NOT your sacrifice."
     
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