Georgia Election

[GreatLakes4Ever]

Look I've proved my point. And it's not just based on impeachment. You want to focus on one thing okay, but you are missing all the rest.

I've proved my point.

But doing that study during impeachment which is an objectively negative thing warps the numbers. You take one of the most objectively negative things during Trump’s presidency and complain about negative coverage surrounding it. You also haven’t pointed out where the negative statements made were opinion. I didn’t see it in the LifeNews article.

 

[Ponderous Curmudgeon]

I know, and the media leans left because of their opinions are left leaning. They don't just report facts but their reporting leans left with the way they report an incident. The words they use the headlines and the stories.

If this was actually true, there would be more money to be made by moving to the right. But you can keep pretending or maybe liberals are just better and knowing how to be capitalists.

 

[Hank77]

Sure, but you were speculating on what his intention was. That's the guts of this supposed outrage--whether what Trump said represented a request for a person who's known to be a political adversary to bend some rules and help him cheat.

Are you referring to Secretary Raffensperger as Trump's political adversary? Since when?

 

[disciple Clint]

I already told you what the falsehood was. All that I ask is that you try to support your claims. Otherwise most of your posts can be refuted with a simple "So what?" and that is not enjoyable at all. For either of us.

So you say that I have lied then when asked for evidence, you have none, then you complain about my evidence on my posts. Seriously? Don't go around saying that people lied unless you can back up your statement even then you are asking for trouble, some people take serious offense at being confronted about a lie that they did not tell.

 

[disciple Clint]

There's ballot harvesting in GA but it is very restricted.
Ballot harvesting (ballot collection) laws by state

If the article in my post is correct this looks much like something that is not very restricted at all.

 

[Whyayeman]

And I think he was saying that it wouldn't take examining every vote that was cast, but that Trump needed to show only that as many incorrect votes existed as represented the difference between winning and losing there. If that were shown to be the case, Trump's appeal would be secure.

I think he was inviting the senior official of the election to do wrong. I think that is what the official thought too. He was not being asked to find just any votes - they had to be illegitimate votes cast for the Democratic candidate to be any use to Trump.

As it turns out, in the cases where such inquiries have been carried out winning margin for Democratic candidates increased. I am sure everybody will be glad that the ballot was corrected in those places!

 

[Subduction Zone]

So you say that I have lied then when asked for evidence, you have none, then you complain about my evidence on my posts. Seriously? Don't go around saying that people lied unless you can back up your statement even then you are asking for trouble, some people take serious offense at being confronted about a lie that they did not tell.

I have not claimed that you lied. You made an obviously false claim by misrepresenting what I posted. You tried to use an opinion piece as evidence. That was not evidence. That was why I said that I do not care about what you posted.

One thing that you should know about debates, when a reasonable request for evidence is made and none is presented it is the same as admitting that there is no evidence.

Didn't I mention that the Georgia election was audited when it came to mail in ballots and they found no evidence of cheating? I offered to supply that evidence but no one took me up on it. They probably already knew that to be a fact.

 

[disciple Clint]

I have not claimed that you lied. You made an obviously false claim by misrepresenting what I posted. You tried to use an opinion piece as evidence. That was not evidence. That was why I said that I do not care about what you posted.

One thing that you should know about debates, when a reasonable request for evidence is made and none is presented it is the same as admitting that there is no evidence.

Didn't I mention that the Georgia election was audited when it came to mail in ballots and they found no evidence of cheating? I offered to supply that evidence but no one took me up on it. They probably already knew that to be a fact.

Misrepresenting what others say is not honest. Many would consider it a form of lying.

So it was not you who posted this, is someone using your account, you should check on it immediately.

 

[Subduction Zone]

So it was not you who posted this, is someone using your account, you should check on it immediately.

Where in that post did I claim that you lied?

 

[disciple Clint]

Where in that post did I claim that you lied?

Go read it what do you think it says, my gosh talk about attempting to avoid responsibility for what you posted.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Go read it what do you think it says, my gosh talk about attempting to avoid responsibility for what you posted.

It looked a lot like you were lying by misrepresenting my post, but I gave you the benefit of the doubt.

 

[disciple Clint]

It looked a lot like you were lying by misrepresenting my post, but I gave you the benefit of the doubt.

The benefit of the doubt, calling me a liar was giving me the benefit of the doubt, and then trying to find a way to wiggle out of the responsibility for it, I am done with you.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The benefit of the doubt, calling me a liar was giving me the benefit of the doubt, and then trying to find a way to wiggle out of the responsibility for it, I am done with you.

No. I specifically did not call you a liar. I pointed out to you what you did that was wrong and how it was clearly less than honest. If you did not understand the proper thing to do was to ask questions. You did not do that. You tried to misrepresent my response to you. I gave you the benefit of the doubt that it was an error.

Don't get mad at me for your own failures.

 

[Hank77]

If the article in my post is correct this looks much like something that is not very restricted at all.

Only a disabled person can have a family member or a household member deliver their mail-in ballot.
What if they live alone in their own home and don't have a family member where they live?

In Georgia, a voter with a physical disability may have their absentee ballot returned by a family member (defined by the law) or a household member. Voters confined to a hospital can vote an absentee ballot immediately upon delivery by a registrar or absentee ballot clerk and return it to the official.

 

[disciple Clint]

Only a disabled person can have a family member or a household member deliver their mail-in ballot.
What if they live alone in their own home and don't have a family member where they live?

In Georgia, a voter with a physical disability may have their absentee ballot returned by a family member (defined by the law) or a household member. Voters confined to a hospital can vote an absentee ballot immediately upon delivery by a registrar or absentee ballot clerk and return it to the official.

In that case there would not be hundreds of ballots being stuffed in the box by a large group of people.

 

[Hank77]

In that case there would not be hundreds of ballots being stuffed in the box by a large group of people.

True, but I'm not sure what your point is...I said GA does allow ballot harvesting but that it is very limited and you said it wasn't very limited.

So now what is your point with this post? Thanks.

 

[Subduction Zone]

In that case there would not be hundreds of ballots being stuffed in the box by a large group of people.

If you are talking about mail in ballots we know that did not happen in Georgia. How? Ballots have to have the signature of the person that voted. Those are confirmed during elections. But after crazy allegations occurred Georgia did an audit on the country where it was claimed that this happened. Guess what? They could not find fraud. How are you going to match tens of thousands of signatures?
3rd Strike Against Voter Fraud Claims Means Theyre Out After Signature Audit Finds No Fraud | Elections

Your conspiracy theories keep failing. No wonder you never provide any evidence for them.

 

[Whyayeman]

Just to recap: no evidence has been found of systematic fraud in any state in the 2020 Presidential Election.

There is no shred of evidence to suggest a conspiracy to 'steal' the election. It was a figment of Trump's imagination first dreamed up in the spring of 2020 and repeated without justification ever since.

 

[Albion]

Just to recap: no evidence has been found of systematic fraud in any state in the 2020 Presidential Election.

There is no shred of evidence to suggest a conspiracy to 'steal' the election. It was a figment of Trump's imagination first dreamed up in the spring of 2020 and repeated without justification ever since.

Read this before deciding:
New: Sworn Statements Attesting To Election Fraud

Voter Fraud Caught On Tape


Republican Poll Watchers Denied Entry to Polls (Videos)
The current media narrative: "Republicans had poll watchers from the beginning! The only thing that is in contention is how far away they were able to watch the ballots being counted."
Reality: Republicans were put 30 feet away from the counting, and ballots keep being brought away and brought in, out of view. In smaller locations with less than 30 feet of space, poll watchers were put outside the room.

Hidden Camera Footage of Ballot Harvester for a House Republican Candidate Stealing Votes for Joe Biden..

Post Office Whistleblower
Pennsylvania USPS Whistleblower Richard Hopkins Goes Public, confirms Federal Investigators have spoken with him about Postmaster Rob Weisenbach's order to backdate ballots to November 3rd, 2020 .


Detroit elections, where 72% of absentee votes do not match registered voters

Sun sentinel detailing Florida voting fraud

Ballot harvesting scam exposed in Minneapolis

Project Veritas uncovers ballot fraud in San Antonio . 7,000 ballots compromised , likely up to 14,000

Woman arrested in Vanderburgh county for pre checking boxes on 400+ ballots

Texas officer & poll watcher testifies on 2020 Houston Voting Fraud Using stacks of drivers licenses , (has photos)

 

[disciple Clint]

Read this before deciding:
New: Sworn Statements Attesting To Election Fraud

Voter Fraud Caught On Tape


Republican Poll Watchers Denied Entry to Polls (Videos)
The current media narrative: "Republicans had poll watchers from the beginning! The only thing that is in contention is how far away they were able to watch the ballots being counted."
Reality: Republicans were put 30 feet away from the counting, and ballots keep being brought away and brought in, out of view. In smaller locations with less than 30 feet of space, poll watchers were put outside the room.

Hidden Camera Footage of Ballot Harvester for a House Republican Candidate Stealing Votes for Joe Biden..

Post Office Whistleblower
Pennsylvania USPS Whistleblower Richard Hopkins Goes Public, confirms Federal Investigators have spoken with him about Postmaster Rob Weisenbach's order to backdate ballots to November 3rd, 2020 .


Detroit elections, where 72% of absentee votes do not match registered voters

Sun sentinel detailing Florida voting fraud

Ballot harvesting scam exposed in Minneapolis

Project Veritas uncovers ballot fraud in San Antonio . 7,000 ballots compromised , likely up to 14,000

Woman arrested in Vanderburgh county for pre checking boxes on 400+ ballots

Texas officer & poll watcher testifies on 2020 Houston Voting Fraud Using stacks of drivers licenses , (has photos)

I know of two people who will never accept your evidence even if it means they have to argue until the end of time.