Geological Layers do not represent fewer years than we conclude

[Shemjaza]

Yes, I know.

If you can't see it in your telescopes or microscopes, it doesn't exist.

Missing links though?

No problem.

Just gloss over them with a blue line.

They leave evidence that we can see. (Also really not much missing from the branches linking humans to chimps and other apes).

 

[sjastro]

They've already been named.

But you wouldn't understand.

But for those who would:

Psalm 147:4 He telleth the number of the stars; he calleth them all by their names.

Pluto is a dwarf planet, a planet is defined as a wandering star.
Since God has a name for this dwarf planet why are you committing blasphemy by referring to its name as a pagan god particularly being the god of the underworld.

 

[SelfSim]

The inconsistency of @AV1611VET's argument there is obvious for all to see.
(I'm basing that observation on the points clearly visible in the last three posts).

 

[Larniavc]

Any edge.

(I think it's just one single edge though.)

There is no edge or vertices.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

They've already been named.
...
Psalm 147:4 He telleth the number of the stars; he calleth them all by their names.

So name one, or admit that it's just another unsupported claim.

 

[AV1611VET]

So name one, or admit that it's just another unsupported claim.

Am I in God's stead?

God named them, I didn't.

Deuteronomy 29:29 The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.

 

[AV1611VET]

There is no edge or vertices.

Post 39 please.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Post 39 please.

You just don't like being told you're wrong.

 

[Pardon Maoi]

Polystrate Trees

That isn't a term used in geology and no one, ever, has suggested that every single layer observed in nature represents long periods. Ice core layers represent seasons and years, same with varves. The supposed "polystrate trees" aren't even found in differing deposits. They're just layers of the same material.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Am I in God's stead?

God named them, I didn't.

Deuteronomy 29:29 The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.

As expected, just another empty claim.

 

[AV1611VET]

As expected, just another empty claim.

Interesting word choice.

Luke 1:50 And his mercy is on them that fear him from generation to generation.
51 He hath shewed strength with his arm; he hath scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
52 He hath put down the mighty from their seats, and exalted them of low degree.
53 He hath filled the hungry with good things; and the rich he hath sent empty away.

Rich in information, but empty of understanding.

Revelation 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Interesting word choice.

Luke 1:50 And his mercy is on them that fear him from generation to generation.
51 He hath shewed strength with his arm; he hath scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
52 He hath put down the mighty from their seats, and exalted them of low degree.
53 He hath filled the hungry with good things; and the rich he hath sent empty away.

Rich in information, but empty of understanding.

Revelation 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

The usual M.O. - pointless semantic distraction.

 

[AV1611VET]

The usual M.O. - pointless semantic distraction.

Interesting word choice.

Another poster here calls it "posting a wall of blue text".

We call it, "getting the Gospel out."

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Interesting word choice.

Another poster here calls it "posting a wall of blue text".

We call it, "getting the Gospel out."

'Word salad' is more apposite.

 

[AV1611VET]

'Word salad' is more apposite.

I'm sure that's what many see when they read the Bible.

Else they wouldn't be atheists.

 

[Astrid]

That isn't a term used in geology and no one, ever, has suggested that every single layer observed in nature represents long periods. Ice core layers represent seasons and years, same with varves. The supposed "polystrate trees" aren't even found in differing deposits. They're just layers of the same material.

You can go see polystrate fossils being formed in Cook Inlet Alaska.

 

[The happy Objectivist]

Through an interest in rock collecting, I learned about the geology of varves. These are sediments such as were deposited where a river flows into a lake or the sea. In the summer the sediment is darker with carbon from plant blooms. In the winter the sediment is lighter as plants do not grow in cold winter temperatures. Geologists found records of tens of thousands of years of deposition of the varve sediments in river deltas.

This is one article. There may be others.
A 60,000 Year Varve Record from Japan Refutes the Young-Earth Interpretation of Earth’s History

Yep. There is a series in Dinosaur National Park that records 1.2 million years worth if I remember correctly. And they are corroborated by ocean floor varves and ice layers in Antarctica. There is no question that the Earth is older than the creation account claims. I read about that Japanese lake several years ago. Lake vares record all sorts of things including the plants that were present, droughts, dust storms, forest fires, meteor impacts, and volcanic eruptions. They used carbon dating to date the layers and it correlated exactly and this validates Carbon dating back long before the flood is supposed to have happened and yet there is no evidence of it in the varves. Anyone who believes in the creation and the flood does so in the face of incontrovertible evidence.

 

[Astrid]

Yep. There is a series in Dinosaur National Park that records 1.2 million years worth if I remember correctly. And they are corroborated by ocean floor varves and ice layers in Antarctica. There is no question that the Earth is older than the creation account claims. I read about that Japanese lake several years ago. Lake vares record all sorts of things including the plants that were present, droughts, dust storms, forest fires, meteor impacts, and volcanic eruptions. They used carbon dating to date the layers and it correlated exactly and this validates Carbon dating back long before the flood is supposed to have happened and yet there is no evidence of it in the varves. Anyone who believes in the creation and the flood does so in the face of incontrovertible evidence.

Ha. All that's needed to crush all of that is
to say SEDI! ( Same Evidence Different Interpretation)

 

[The happy Objectivist]

Ha. All that's needed to crush all of that is
to say SEDI! ( Same Evidence Different Interpretation)

Not without dropping reason and logic. But we already know that they do this. The arbitrary is inadmissible as evidence.

 

[The happy Objectivist]

Okay.And why would they be mixed and matched?

Surely you don't expect to find mans' bones with dinosaur bones, do you?

If a man even got close to a T. Rex, he wouldn't be around to fossilize, would he?

Do you expect to find elephant bones in the cemetery closest to you?Nice.

What's your point?

There are no antediluvian bones on the earth, in my opinion.

Any bones we find came after the Flood.

All the ones before the Flood were removed from the earth for sanitary and safety reasons.

If Humans existed concurrently with T Rex, We'd expect to find some evidence of this. Possibly a fossile T Rex with Human bones in its stomach region. We do find fossilized animals with other animals in their stomachs, or rather where their stomachs would be.