Genesis One

[Aman777]

Someone thousands of years ago wrote something that in no way looks like a modern scientific truth unless you interpret the wazoo out of your thousands of years old text. E.g. trying to match 'was created' with 'emerged from a non-living world through natural processes.'. The two don't match up as well.

Genesis 1:21 tells us that "every living creature that moveth" was created and brought forth from WATER. Recently scientists confirmed what only God could have told us more than 3k years ago. It's proof (along with many other scientific truths) of the Literal God.

Before Science announced this fact in 2016, some claimed panspermia and others preached that life rode in on a comet and other idiotic notions. The reason Scripture and Science do not agree in your view is caused by your false idea of what Genesis teaches.

It is of course easy to create a completely unconvincing refutation of ToE. How about you try moving up a step and try to come up with something that has any believability about it at all. Can you do it?

Sure. Would you like to know HOW prehistoric people on our planet inherited the superior intelligence of God? Or do you hate anything which shows that God is real? I understand your fear since I used to run from Divinity students who wanted to save everyone. Amen?

 

[TLK Valentine]

God's Scriptural Timeline

23 Billion years ago The first Day Gen. 1:3
18 Billion years ago God makes Adam's Earth Gen 1:9-10
14 Billion years ago Adam is formed Gen 2:4
13.8 Billion years ago The Big Bang of our Cosmos happens Gen 2:4
4.53 Billion years ago The present Earth is formed Gen 2:4
3.77 Billion years ago Universal Common Ancestor appears in water Gen 1:21

5-6 Million years ago Prehistoric man diverges from Chimps Gen 6:4

11 Thousand years ago Noah brings Human (descendants of Adam) civilization to planet Earth Gen 8:4 Noah's grandsons marry prehistoric people and produce today's Humans

2 Thousand years ago Jesus walks on planet Earth John 3:16

Soon, Jesus returns at Armageddon, rules Earth for a thousand years, and the 6th Day/Age ends Gen 1:31
The 7th Day, the Age of Joy, begins Gen 2:1-3 Amen?

Question: how much longer would the Truth of God's word have been hidden had you not stepped forward and revealed it?

 

[Aman777]

Aman777 said: ↑
God's Scriptural Timeline

23 Billion years ago The first Day Gen. 1:3
18 Billion years ago God makes Adam's Earth Gen 1:9-10
14 Billion years ago Adam is formed Gen 2:4
13.8 Billion years ago The Big Bang of our Cosmos happens Gen 2:4
4.53 Billion years ago The present Earth is formed Gen 2:4
3.77 Billion years ago Universal Common Ancestor appears in water Gen 1:21

5-6 Million years ago Prehistoric man diverges from Chimps Gen 6:4

11 Thousand years ago Noah brings Human (descendants of Adam) civilization to planet Earth Gen 8:4 Noah's grandsons marry prehistoric people and produce today's Humans

2 Thousand years ago Jesus walks on planet Earth John 3:16

Soon, Jesus returns at Armageddon, rules Earth for a thousand years, and the 6th Day/Age ends Gen 1:31
The 7th Day, the Age of Joy, begins Gen 2:1-3 Amen?

Question: how much longer would the Truth of God's word have been hidden had you not stepped forward and revealed it?

Jesus said:
Mat 18:18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind (lock) on earth shall be bound (locked) in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose (unlock) on earth shall be loosed (unlocked) in heaven.

I'm trying to store up treasures in Heaven. Amen?

 

[TLK Valentine]

I'm trying to store up treasures in Heaven. Amen?

What use are "treasures" in heaven?

 

[Speedwell]

Aman777 said: ↑
God's Scriptural Timeline

23 Billion years ago The first Day Gen. 1:3
18 Billion years ago God makes Adam's Earth Gen 1:9-10
14 Billion years ago Adam is formed Gen 2:4
13.8 Billion years ago The Big Bang of our Cosmos happens Gen 2:4
4.53 Billion years ago The present Earth is formed Gen 2:4
3.77 Billion years ago Universal Common Ancestor appears in water Gen 1:21

5-6 Million years ago Prehistoric man diverges from Chimps Gen 6:4

11 Thousand years ago Noah brings Human (descendants of Adam) civilization to planet Earth Gen 8:4 Noah's grandsons marry prehistoric people and produce today's Humans

2 Thousand years ago Jesus walks on planet Earth John 3:16

Soon, Jesus returns at Armageddon, rules Earth for a thousand years, and the 6th Day/Age ends Gen 1:31
The 7th Day, the Age of Joy, begins Gen 2:1-3 Amen?



Jesus said:
Mat 18:18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind (lock) on earth shall be bound (locked) in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose (unlock) on earth shall be loosed (unlocked) in heaven.

I'm trying to store up treasures in Heaven. Amen?

Why do you think you need to tie the two timelines together?

 

[Justatruthseeker]

Well since we are getting into timelines, here's mine.

An unknown and unknowable time ago the Universe is created.

God stretches out the Heavens. (Expansion in geek speak)

Due to time dilation clocks and radioactive decay rates begin to slow. As per experimental proof that acceleration slows clocks and decay rates.

Humans advance over the next 6000 of their years (which are continually slowing) and think they can deduce the age of the earth from radioactive decay. But being human and ignoring relativistic affects, they calculate a far greater age than in reality, since clocks now tick slower, they once ticked faster. This makes the age appear of vast age. But being human and ignoring relativistic affects, they continue to use the slower rate of today's clocks to try to calculate what happened faster in the past without adjusting for time dilation.

End result - no one has a clue as to how old the universe is, because we are trying to use the rate at which clocks tick today, which was not the same rate as before.

 

[Aman777]

What use are "treasures" in heaven?

Don't know but they are better than sex.

Mat 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

 

[Aman777]

Why do you think you need to tie the two timelines together?

There is but One Timeline. It begins with the creation of physical matter and never ends.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Don't know but they are better than sex.

Mat 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

Not seeing anything in there about those "treasures."

And you might want to think twice before aspiring to be like the angels... heaven is only a paradise for the guests, not the staff.

 

[Aman777]

Not seeing anything in there about those "treasures."

If God had anything better, He kept it for Himself...and He did. The mortal mind cannot conceive of His treasures.

1Co 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

So let your imagination go.....

 

[TLK Valentine]

If God had anything better, He kept it for Himself...and He did. The mortal mind cannot conceive of His treasures.

1Co 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

So let your imagination go.....

My imagination tells me that buying a pig in a poke is a bad idea.

 

[Aman777]

My imagination tells me that buying a pig in a poke is a bad idea.

Then follow Satan and you will be the pig that gets poked. After standing in Bovine excrement up to your waist for an hour, the devil says "Okay sinners, back on your heads."

 

[TLK Valentine]

Then follow Satan and you will be the pig that gets poked. After standing in Bovine excrement up to your waist for an hour, the devil says "Okay sinners, back on your heads."

Were you attempting humor?

 

[Justatruthseeker]

Then follow Satan and you will be the pig that gets poked. After standing in Bovine excrement up to your waist for an hour, the devil says "Okay sinners, back on your heads."

No such thing as eternal suffering....

 

[Justatruthseeker]

Genesis 1:21 tells us that "every living creature that moveth" was created and brought forth from WATER. Recently scientists confirmed what only God could have told us more than 3k years ago. It's proof (along with many other scientific truths) of the Literal God.

The Hebrew word is every living creature that "Creeps" and lives in the water. Not moveth.

But then that's why 1:24 specifically tells you cattle were created from the earth, not water and every living thing that "Creeps" that lives on the land. The same word is used in both passages.

One crustaceans, the other insects....

 

[Aman777]

The Hebrew word is every living creature that "Creeps" and lives in the water. Not moveth.

I accept the KJV which says "every living creature that moveth" came from water, exactly as Science has discovered. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/.../behold-luca-last-universal-common-ancestor-life...Jul 26, 2016 -
Can you tell us WHY it took scientists more than 3k years to confirm what God told us in Genesis?

But then that's why 1:24 specifically tells you cattle were created from the earth, not water and every living thing that "Creeps" that lives on the land. The same word is used in both passages.

False as the verses show. My thoughts are in black:

Gen 1:24 ¶ And God (Trinity) said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after His (Jesus) kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after His (Jesus) kind: and it was so.

Jesus, called YHWH in Genesis, makes temporary kinds which are subject to death. God the Trinity makes Eternal kinds which are as sure for Heaven as Jesus. Now the next verse makes sense....

Gen 1:25 And God (Trinity) made the beast of the earth after His (Jesus) kind, and cattle after Their (Trinity) kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after His (Jesus) kind: and God saw that it was good. (perfect)

Cattle were made by both God the Trinity and YHWH/Jesus. This means that cattle are destined for Heaven. The beasts of the earth were fashioned by hands of Jesus Gen 2:19 and created eternally by God the Trinity. Gen 1:25 Notice that the creeping kind was NOT made by God the Trinity, but temporarily by Jesus. You wouldn't want mosquitoes in heaven would you? It's simple IF you read Genesis for what it actually says, instead of what some ancient Hebrew theologian thought it said. Amen?

 

[Justatruthseeker]

I accept the KJV which says "every living creature that moveth" came from water, exactly as Science has discovered. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/.../behold-luca-last-universal-common-ancestor-life...Jul 26, 2016 -
Can you tell us WHY it took scientists more than 3k years to confirm what God told us in Genesis?



False as the verses show. My thoughts are in black:

Gen 1:24 ¶ And God (Trinity) said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after His (Jesus) kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after His (Jesus) kind: and it was so.

Jesus, called YHWH in Genesis, makes temporary kinds which are subject to death. God the Trinity makes Eternal kinds which are as sure for Heaven as Jesus. Now the next verse makes sense....

Gen 1:25 And God (Trinity) made the beast of the earth after His (Jesus) kind, and cattle after Their (Trinity) kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after His (Jesus) kind: and God saw that it was good. (perfect)

Cattle were made by both God the Trinity and YHWH/Jesus. This means that cattle are destined for Heaven. The beasts of the earth were fashioned by hands of Jesus Gen 2:19 and created eternally by God the Trinity. Gen 1:25 Notice that the creeping kind was NOT made by God the Trinity, but temporarily by Jesus. You wouldn't want mosquitoes in heaven would you? It's simple IF you read Genesis for what it actually says, instead of what some ancient Hebrew theologian thought it said. Amen?

And yet the word you want to translate as moveth, is the exact same word you want to translate as creepeth in 1:25.

Why is that, why do you find it necessary to translate the same word two different ways to fit it into your beliefs?

What Trinity?

Jesus defended himself against claims he was God...

 

[Aman777]

And yet the word you want to translate as moveth, is the exact same word you want to translate as creepeth in 1:25.

Why is that, why do you find it necessary to translate the same word two different ways to fit it into your beliefs?

I know the Author and He helps me understand. Those without Him are called the lost.

What Trinity?

The Father, Son and Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth. The Trinity. The invisible God.

Jesus defended himself against claims he was God...

Jesus knew that He lived in a body in the likeness of sinful flesh so He always respected and reveled in His Father in order to be an example for us. He loved the invisible Father more than Himself.

 

[Justatruthseeker]

I know the Author and He helps me understand. Those without Him are called the lost.

I know the Author too, and He chose to use the same word in both places.....

The Father, Son and Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth. The Trinity. The invisible God.

Ahh, the triune god brought in from the Egyptians to bring them into the fold. I understand. You go ahead and worship three Gods, I worship One.

Jesus knew that He lived in a body in the likeness of sinful flesh so He always respected and reveled in His Father in order to be an example for us. He loved the invisible Father more than Himself.

Except if he is God, then he is the Father as well. But even when raised to heaven he will sit at the right hand of God, where a son belongs. So he loved Himself, more than himself?

And when he returns, it will be with the voice of an archangel, not with the voice of God....

 

[AV1611VET]

18 Billion years ago God makes Adam's Earth Gen 1:9-10

4.53 Billion years ago The present Earth is formed Gen 2:4

1. Which Earth is better suited for life?

2. Who named this planet?

3.77 Billion years ago Universal Common Ancestor appears in water Gen 1:21

3. What is the purpose of a "universal common ancestor," if we are made in God's image & likeness?

4. Wouldn't man ... emerging from a universal common ancestor in both the image & likness of God ... be the product of the most bizarre coincidence of all time?

11 Thousand years ago Noah brings Human (descendants of Adam) civilization to planet Earth Gen 8:4 Noah's grandsons marry prehistoric people and produce today's Humans

5. Aren't you making Noah out to be a fallen angel?

They are the ones who came here and cohabited with our women to produce the Nephilim.