Genesis and Creation, Days are long "ages" ect...?

[Neogaia777]

What is a evening or morning of an age or era? I feel like we are really starting to butcher Genesis 1 at this point.

Why are we trying to line up Scripture and science? There are several cases where Scripture and science conflict. There are numerous examples in the miracles of Jesus. Even if we can confidently say a day means an age, science and Scripture still conflict with each other. The animals and plants are produced according to their kinds. Evolution disagrees. Furthermore, the Bible teaches the Earth was water and then God brought about the land. According to science, the earth was a volcanic “hell” for billions of years before it even saw any water.

I also don’t know what you mean by being “open” to an interpretation. If that involves me giving up the clarity of Scripture to squeeze in a new idea, I am definitely not open to it.

My biggest issue with day age creationism is it’s attempt to reconcile Scripture with science. Can you imagine how much Bible would be left if we do this with all of Scripture? Science and Scripture may compliment each other in some ways. But they do not belong on the same shelf. There are things in the Bible we just cannot explain or prove scientifically.

I’d also have to disagree with a previous post that states the purpose of Genesis 1 isn’t about how the universe was created. Genesis is a part of the Torah which is literally the history of Israel, going all the way back to the creation of the world. Genesis 1 does describe how the universe was created. It was created by God in 6 literal days.

I do agree with the post someone made about the sabbath. If God hadn’t rested yet on the seventh day, how do we even observe the sabbath day?

Oh dear...

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

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[joshua 1 9]

Then we get into the details of a creation in and from Genesis 2:5 and on....

Genesis chapter one is about beginnings. Genesis chapter two is about the genealogies or generations. Genesis chapter three is about the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and the serpent. Creationists seem to argue the most about the tree of knowledge and if man really does have free will or if everything has been predetermined.

 

[joshua 1 9]

What is a evening or morning of an age or era?

In the beginning the world was in darkness and that God said: "Let there be light". So the sequence is for us to go from darkness to light. This is all a part of the cycle of life. Like the rings on a tree the tree goes though a years cycle and is a little bit bigger each year.

Why are we trying to line up Scripture and science?

Because God speaks to us through Science and God speaks to us through our Bible. God does not contradict himself.

In Bible school we are told that we use context to determine the meaning of a world. The Kabbalah - Hasidim use the symbolic meaning of the letters to determine the meaning of a word. So if we look at both then we will see that they compliment and confirm each other.

 

[joshua 1 9]

There are several cases where Scripture and science conflict. There are numerous examples in the miracles of Jesus

Not really. Science likes to use the term spontaneous remission for a miracle. Miracles return and restore things to the way God intended for them to be. The real problem is to prove that there was ever a need for a miracle. Because you are left with a situation where everything looks to be normal.

 

[Ronald]

Genesis chapter 1 to chapter 2 verse 4, concludes with "This is a history of a/the, or an "heavens and a earth", in the day of or when one was made, ect... Genesis 1 to Genesis 2:4 is a "summary" of an "entire creation", beginning to end, which is why the fall, is not even mentioned there, being an insignificant "blip on the radar" of the amount of time it was covering...

Then we get into the details of a creation in and from Genesis 2:5 and on....
The details it gets into from Genesis 2:5 on, are not even mentioned in Genesis 1 to Genesis 2:4, because they are insignificant and not even worth mentioning, in or to an account that covers the time-frame and time-span of an entire creation from beginning to end...

The chapter and verse break should have been or occurred between Genesis 2:4, and Genesis 2:5...

And it can read (Genesis 2:4) "This is and account and brief summary of an entire history of a Heavens and a Earth from beginning to end, in the day or age or time that one was made, or they are made, when they are made", ect, ect...

But someone says: The order of creation differs in the two stories...

About the vegetation or plants, it does seem to, but that is the only thing that seems to, or is the one and only thing that may differ, as it does not say anything at all about days (of creation or whatever) after Genesis 2:5...?

The vegetation (and creation of man) is the one and only thing that does or does seem to differ IOW's...

In Genesis 1 it says the vegetation was made on day three, and man on day six, but in Genesis 2:5 or after Genesis 2:5 it says that God hadn't made any vegetation to sprout up yet, when He created man, but makes no mention of days...

Maybe He just meant in that "region" where He had put man, or where He had made man (from the dust there, ect) or that He did not make the Garden of Eden there yet, in that region, ect...? And made man and the Garden of Eden at or around the same time, ect...? While in other places in or of the Earth there was already vegetation, ect...? Maybe that region might have even been a dessert maybe, before God made the Garden of Eden and man there, ect...? Made him (Man, Adam) to keep it, or do upkeep on it and take care of it, ect...? And both happened on day six maybe, ect...?

Or it could be something else maybe also...?

I believe the "days" are "ages", and that in Genesis 2:5 on, it is all day six, and that we are still in day six now, and that day six will not end until day seven starts, ect, and I don't believe day seven has started yet, but that day seven begins with Christ's returning to rule and reign and set up the Kingdom, God's Kingdom on Earth, ect, after armaggeddon, ect, and and is the "thousand year reign" (not literal) (or not literally a literal thousand years) but is the "age" of Christ ruling and reigning, and is the day of God's rest, ect... It hasn't happened yet, but will happen soon, ect... Or day seven will be starting sometime "relatively soon", ect...

Anyway,

If you take each "day" to mean an "age" then the Creation account in Genesis 1 lines up with science or what science has to say about Creation, or the way life, this planet, (and even the universe, or this universe) came about, ect...?

Oh and about "making the great luminaries" or the sun and moon (and stars), I think He was talking about clearing away all the dark clouds, dust and ash, from volcanic activity, ect, from the air or sky in the Earth, ect... Anyway, taking those away to "reveal" the sun and moon and stars to shine on the Earth clearly for the first time, ect...

The first two days are talking about the universe, ect... For the most part anyway, as they are also talking about the initial formation of stars and/or planets, ect...

And someone says, that it's the creation of the animals that differs also...?

Man and animals were both on the sixth day, same "age" and were kind of made together, in that they are closely related (land beasts, animals) and came about on the same day (sixth day) or age...?

God also may have "placed" animals in the Garden for Adam also... Or caused animals to come to him (Adam) in the Garden, ect... (maybe)...?

I think it's just a technicality at best (that part)...? Considering how closely land animals, especially mammals, and man are related, and happened on the same day, or in the same age or period of time or time period...

Thoughts...?

Comments...?

God Bless!

Gen. 1 is a brief outline. Gen. 2 goes back and fills in the details. This was a common Hebrew style of writing and can be seen in other books in the Bible as well.
Besides, if the botanicals were created on day 3, and the sun on day four, how could they survive for epochs of time without the sun? No, it came the next day. As Gen. 1:4, 5 clearly dwfinwa what one day is: the light He called day and the darkness He called night and together = 24 hour day. If course if you want to deny those verses and distort their meaning, that's on you.

 

[Mikeseven]

I haven't read through all of this thread,I admit but Home with Hugh Ross does a good job explaining their meaning was a non specified length of time. You can also search "Hugh Ross" on youtube and he also does a good job debating atheists.

There are also old testament scholars that say "the purpose of Genesis 1 and 2 is to dramatically tell us that God is the creator of everything and everyone, not to give a scientific account of the process of creation".

I understand that this might upset some people who are dedicated to the 24 hour length I just hope that you don't put a stumbling block in front of your brother. Christ came to save people from jealousy, hate and other forms of immorality not whether or not you believe God created the world in 24 hours or otherwise. So this is a peripheral issue to the heart of Christianity.

Me personally, I think we need to focus our energy on how abiogenesis is basically impossible instead of untestable, unobservable stuff as to how old the earth is... that is a winning issue...

 

[Neogaia777]

Gen. 1 is a brief outline. Gen. 2 goes back and fills in the details. This was a common Hebrew style of writing and can be seen in other books in the Bible as well.
Besides, if the botanicals were created on day 3, and the sun on day four, how could they survive for epochs of time without the sun? No, it came the next day. As Gen. 1:4, 5 clearly dwfinwa what one day is: the light He called day and the darkness He called night and together = 24 hour day. If course if you want to deny those verses and distort their meaning, that's on you.

Primitive plant life could have been around a long, long time with a still somewhat darkened sky (from all the volcanic activity, etc) anyway, primitive plant life, algae, etc, the start of all life, etc, not only could have been around then, but would have been around then, and would have come about long before the sky became completely clear, etc, surviving on the limited light it had at the time through a still darkened sky, etc, that hadn't been cleared yet to "reveal" the sun and moon and stars that were already there on or by day 4, etc...

Then the sea creatures and their "age" on day 5, then land animals and man and mammals on day 6 that were still in even right now, etc...

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

Genesis 1 to Genesis 2:4...

Day 1 and 2- The creation of the universe, formation of stars/planets, solar systems, etc, the initial formation of the earth as a planet, creation and separating of "dimensions" like the separating of the Heavenly realms and/or dimensions, from the physical ones, etc, and/or beginnings of the atmosphere and beginnings of the seas on day 2, etc... Whatever or however you interpret the "separating and dividing of waters from waters" to mean, etc, with the one above being called "heaven", etc...

Day 3- Dry land appears and is made apart from the sea or the seas, etc, earth is very "volcanic" and the sky is still dark and covered with lots of clouds of dust and ash, some light shining through but not much yet, further formation of the atmosphere, and the very beginnings of very simple, extremely primitive plant life, in the form of algae, proteins and primitive bacteria, etc, primordial ooze, etc, by the ends of day 3 that is going to become more complex in Day 4...

Day 4- Sky begins to clear up, and the volcanic activity on the earth begins to settle down a bit, plant life, now having more light, begins to become more complex forms of plant life, the "revealing" of the sun and moon and stars, etc, on the earth due to the skies clearing up, etc...

Day 5- The age or era of sea life, sea creatures and sea animals begin to come about and become more complex by the beginning of day 6, plant life continuing to evolve and become more complex in or on both the land and in the sea, etc, no land animals yet, etc...

Day 6- The age of land animals and man, land animals come about for the first time (from the sea creatures), and become more complex, till they eventually lead to man coming about, and the fall of man happens, etc, we are still in day 6 now till the results of the fall are fixed or restored, then will begin day 7...

Day 7- The age or era of the rule and reign of Christ on earth from Heaven, or Heaven and earth being one (again) results of the fall or consequences of the fall are restored or fixed or whatever, (we go back to being vegetarians, etc), and this age will last until the end of the earth and the universe as we know it, etc...


Adam and Eve could have been a special creation, in a selected by God specific region or specific area in the earth on or in or during day 6, the Garden of Eden, etc, then were cast out to be among the rest of the "evolved species", etc, two races or species possibly, etc, Cain could have been the first one to interbreed or intermix with these maybe, possibly, or the whole story could just be an allegory, revealing many, many truths to us about our species and the "spirits", and the spiritual, and mankind, and mankind's relationship with God, etc...

The way to resolve the issue of plants sating to come about on day 3 in Genesis 1, and there have not been any kind of vegetation sprouting up from the ground yet in the Garden of Eden on day 6 when Adam was made, is that, if the Garden of Eden was a literal Garden and special set apart from the rest of the world special creation, is that plants may have not been made to grow or come about yet "in that specific region" yet, during the time it was made and/or set apart on or during day 6 yet, but then was by God when He made Adam and put him there...

God Bless!

 

[coffee4u]

If you take each "day" to mean an "age" then the Creation account in Genesis 1 lines up with science or what science has to say about Creation, or the way life, this planet, (and even the universe, or this universe) came about, ect...?

I take each day to be 24 hours. The main reason I do not accept each day as millions of years is because:
1)Adam was made on day 6 and he died 930 later.
Genesis5:3
When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him Seth. 4 After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters. 5 Altogether, Adam lived a total of 930 years, and then he died.

2)Sin, but more precisely Adam's sin brought in death to all.
Romans 5
12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned—
13 To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not charged against anyone’s account where there is no law. 14 Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who is a pattern of the one to come.
17 For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ!

3) The author intended them to mean regular 24 hour days.
The Hebrew word yom is used along with numbers as well as evening and moring and this is repeated many times. The text is not written the way Hebrew poetry, allegory or parables were written. Instead, the days are methodically counted off, with the events of each day carefully described.

4)Jesus allowed the Gospel of Luke to trace his genealogy back to Adam.

5) Jesus and Paul quoted Genesis and talked about Adam, Seth and Noah as real people. They talked as if the listeners of the day also understood this.
“Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?” (Matthew 19:4-5)

Then Jesus condemned the Pharisees and scribes for hypocrisy.
“so that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah the son of Barachiah…”(Matthew 23:35)

Right before His death, Jesus tells His disciples about His return saying
“For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.” (Matthew 24:37-39)

 

[Neogaia777]

I take each day to be 24 hours. The main reason I do not accept each day as millions of years is because:
1)Adam was made on day 6 and he died 930 later.
Genesis5:3
When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him Seth. 4 After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters. 5 Altogether, Adam lived a total of 930 years, and then he died.

2)Sin, but more precisely Adam's sin brought in death to all.
Romans 5
12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned—
13 To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not charged against anyone’s account where there is no law. 14 Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who is a pattern of the one to come.
17 For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ!

3) The author intended them to mean regular 24 hour days.
The Hebrew word yom is used along with numbers as well as evening and moring and this is repeated many times. The text is not written the way Hebrew poetry, allegory or parables were written. Instead, the days are methodically counted off, with the events of each day carefully described.

4)Jesus allowed the Gospel of Luke to trace his genealogy back to Adam.

5) Jesus and Paul quoted Genesis and talked about Adam, Seth and Noah as real people. They talked as if the listeners of the day also understood this.
“Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?” (Matthew 19:4-5)

Then Jesus condemned the Pharisees and scribes for hypocrisy.
“so that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah the son of Barachiah…”(Matthew 23:35)

Right before His death, Jesus tells His disciples about His return saying
“For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.” (Matthew 24:37-39)

See this post please: Millennials Turn Away From Creationism

And some of my other posts on page one of this thread as well...

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

I take each day to be 24 hours. The main reason I do not accept each day as millions of years is because:
1)Adam was made on day 6 and he died 930 later.
Genesis5:3
When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him Seth. 4 After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters. 5 Altogether, Adam lived a total of 930 years, and then he died.

2)Sin, but more precisely Adam's sin brought in death to all.
Romans 5
12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned—
13 To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not charged against anyone’s account where there is no law. 14 Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who is a pattern of the one to come.
17 For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ!

3) The author intended them to mean regular 24 hour days.
The Hebrew word yom is used along with numbers as well as evening and moring and this is repeated many times. The text is not written the way Hebrew poetry, allegory or parables were written. Instead, the days are methodically counted off, with the events of each day carefully described.

4)Jesus allowed the Gospel of Luke to trace his genealogy back to Adam.

5) Jesus and Paul quoted Genesis and talked about Adam, Seth and Noah as real people. They talked as if the listeners of the day also understood this.
“Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?” (Matthew 19:4-5)

Then Jesus condemned the Pharisees and scribes for hypocrisy.
“so that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah the son of Barachiah…”(Matthew 23:35)

Right before His death, Jesus tells His disciples about His return saying
“For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.” (Matthew 24:37-39)

Why did God create it all with the appearance of having been around a long time, and a long, long time...? Was He being deceptive or trying to deceive or trick us...? And, as "what", a kind of cruel test or joke or something I guess...? Or "what"...?

Sorry, I don't believe that...

And I don't want a lot of "other people" to believe that either...

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

Evening and morning, or morning and evening, could mean the golden years or time of an age, and then the dark times or dark era of an age, or when it was prospering and thriving and when it was falling and failing and was about over or ended or was on it's decline, etc...

"Cycles" IOW's, the turning of a tide or the change of an era, it happens in and with any system of things, or era or age of thing or things...

God Bless!

 

[joshua 1 9]

1)Adam was made on day 6

Adam was NOT made on day 6. He was made on day 8. Adam and Eve lived in the Garden of Eden around 6,000 years ago exactly as the Bible says. Science and History can confirm the Bible is accurate and true.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Primitive plant life could have been

There are professors at the University of Jerusalem with PhD's in Botney that knows quite a bit about "primitive" plants in the Middle east and how they became domesticated. Even there are people that have put a lot of work and study into how farming spread from the Middle East Tigris Euphrates river valley to Europe and the rest of the world.

Eden is all about domesticated plants and animals. It is about a biodiverse eco system that people can read about in their Biology book.

 

[-57]

Adam was NOT made on day 6. He was made on day 8. Adam and Eve lived in the Garden of Eden around 6,000 years ago exactly as the Bible says. Science and History can confirm the Bible is accurate and true.

Joshua, now that's a new one for me. Day 8? I've seen a day 3 argument but never a day 8

 

[joshua 1 9]

Joshua, now that's a new one for me. Day 8? I've seen a day 3 argument but never a day 8

Genesis 1:1 begins with the nano diamond comet 12,990 years ago. Six North American Sites Hold 12,900-year-old Nanodiamond-rich Soil I am not saying the comet did anything, it is just a marker: "There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars". At the time there was a 90% extinction. For example Saber Tooth Tigars & Wholly Mammoths were killed off. There is always a population radiation or explosion after a major extinction. In the area I live when the glaciers melted they left about 12 to 15 feet of muck behind. I have photographed the layers to the earth when they were working on the bridge and when they built the expressway. So I have studied some of the geology. God rested on the 7th day then on the eight day 5990 years ago we see Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. We can study Chedder man. He live about 10,000 years ago. Even he has living relatives today.He lived before Adam and Eve because they lived 5990 years ago. I would have to write a whole book to explain all of this, using the Bible, Ancient History and Modern Science. For example over at the University of Jerusalem we have Professors with a PhD in Botany that are experts on the domestication of plants and animals in the middle east. It was the garden in Eden with all of the plants and animals that God placed in Eden that Noah saved on his ark. So I guess you could say I am a Theistic Evolution, I am also YEC and I am also OEC. What we are talking about here YEC - is what I can explain the best. This is based on dispensationalism where a day is equal to 1,000 years. It took God 12.990 Billion years to create Adam and Eve but we find them 5,990 years ago in Eden. The third day measures from when Jesus went to Calvery. We are very close to the third day. About 10 years off. The Church began on the day of pentacost 50 days after Jesus went to calvery.

 

[coffee4u]

Adam was NOT made on day 6. He was made on day 8. Adam and Eve lived in the Garden of Eden around 6,000 years ago exactly as the Bible says. Science and History can confirm the Bible is accurate and true.

26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.

28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”

29 Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.” And it was so.

31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.

 

[joshua 1 9]

28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it.

The main verse is: "The LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it." (Genesis 2:15). Compared to the verse in Genesis 2:28 "God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it."

The man and women we read about in Genesis Chapter one is mankind. They were told to be fruitful and fill the earth. Adam and Eve were put in the garden of Eden to tend the garden. Adam and Eve were the first food producer.

Of course what I am giving you here is OEC. So lets go back to YEC and take a look at this again with the Garden of Eden Adam and Eve Halotype. We trace Adam and Eve different. With Adam we have the Y Chromosome, with Eve we look at her Mitrochondria.

What we are looking at is the Haplogroup J-M304, this is the Haplogroup for Adam. This is good because Abraham was descended from Adam and Abraham was the father of Ishmael. This means that Abraham was the father of BOTH the "Jewish" people and the Muslim people. All of the people living on the arab continental place are descended from Abraham. The mother of Ishmael was Hagar. The Mother of Isaiah was Abrahams wife Sarah. We know that Sarah was descended from Eve in the Garden.

All of this is infinite. I know this is of God because the knowledge here is limitless and goes on forever. In the Bible we look at a snap shot. We have a point or a moment in time. We have a time and we have a place. If you were going to buy a new house when do they hand you the key for your new house? They give you the key when they are finished and the house is ready to move into. It took God 12.9 billion years to create Adam and Eve. But we see Adam and Eve 5990 years ago in the Garden of Eden. This is when God said: "It is finished". He was finished with His creation of Adam and Eve.

From our perspective looking at YEC then yes the male and female or man and women in Genesis Chapter one would have to be ancestors for the Adam and Eve that we read about in Genesis chapter two. They would have to be a part of Haplogroup J-M304. Actually this group split into the J-M267 and the J-M172. It is the J-M267 we are interested in for this discussion. This is most popular with what is called the "Cohen Modal Haplotype". Y-chromosomal Aaron is the name given to the hypothesized most recent common ancestor of the patrilineal Jewish priestly caste known as Kohanim (singular "Kohen", also spelled "Cohen"). According to the Hebrew Bible, this ancestor was Aaron, the brother of Moses.

Now all of this is a work in progress. If you ask me this question a year from now there is going to be a lot more information available. Even now there is a LOT more information on this available then the last time someone asked me this question. There is a LOT of inbeeding with the Jewish population and this creates a lot of genetic diseases. So they have been doing a huge amount of research to cure these genetic diseases. So we know a lot about Adam and Eves DNA. A lot of money goes into this. The leading expert is Francis Collins. He headed the entire Human Genome Project. President Clinton honored him for his work on this project. He wrote the book: "The language of God". He said that DNA is the language God uses when he created man. This pretty much makes him the leading theistic evolutionist for better or for worse. But one thing we can know for sure. What he says will stand up in court. Unlike the intelligent design people whos book was not accepted by the court system in the state of Ohio.

Again how much information do you want? Because God is infinite and this is going to go on and on and many books would need to be written to answer your question. The main verse is: "The LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it." (Genesis 2:15). Compared to the verse in Chapter one: "28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it."

 

[coffee4u]

The main verse is: "The LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it." (Genesis 2:15). Compared to the verse in Genesis 2:28 "God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it."

The man and women we read about in Genesis Chapter one is mankind. They were told to be fruitful and fill the earth. Adam and Eve were put in the garden of Eden to tend the garden. Adam and Eve were the first food producer.

From our perspective looking at YEC then yes the male and female or man and women in Genesis Chapter one would have to be ancestors for the Adam and Eve that we read about in Genesis chapter two.

Please show me from scripture where it says that the man and woman is mankind and the ancestors to Adam and Eve.

Also where it says that Adam and Eve were made on the eighth day.