Genesis 6:4

[Genuine]

This verse has puzzled me every since I first read it. I really don't know exactly what to make of it. I'd really like to hear what y'alls opinion is on it. Thanks!

Genesis 6:4

"In those days, and even afterward, giants lived on the earth, for whenever the sons of God had intercourse with human women, they gave birth to children who became the heroes mentioned in legends of old." NLT

Who are the "sons of God"? And why were they sleeping with human women?

 

[James1979]

Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

The sons of God that is mentioned in Gen 6:4 are the true believers as they were marrying unsaved men/women. They were unequally yoked. A believer should be marrying a beliver not an unbeliever.

 

[foadle]

I agree with what you say James but my question would is what do the giants have to do with it?

 

[Genuine]

Agreed. Romans 8:14 helps make sense of the verse to me, but what about those giants?

 

[shataytay]

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[James1979]

shataya,

Well for one the sons of God are true believers. Mankind was made in the image of God and are the only ones who can become sons of God because they have a saviour who is called the son of Man and the son of God. Fallen angels were not made in the image so therefore they can't be called sons of God, they were created to be ministering spirits(hebrew 1:14), basically to serve God. Angels are spirit, they do not have a human so therefore they cannot procreate such as humans do. God created all of the angels one by one. Humans procreated themselves beginning with Adam and Eve.

Also the book of Enoch is not in the bible and was rejected because it did not harmonize with the rest of the books that are in the bible right now. I would not trust the book of enoch for one second.

As far as for the giants that is mentioned in Gen 6:4, these people were very tall. Some of these people were around when David killed Goliath who was very tall as well. Some of the giants had 6 fingers on each hand and 6 toes on each foot. If you do a word study on giants or giant, you should be able to get a better understanding of who the giants were.

Num 13:33 And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, [which come] of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.

 

[JWA]

There are two different schools of thought concerning these scriptures in Gen 6. Part of this controversy is centered around the term Sons of God. Many commentators take the "sons of God" to represent the Godly line of Seth (Gen. 4:25-5:32) and the "daughters of men" to represent the wicked line of Cain (Gen 4:16-24) However the phrase " sons of God" as it is used in the Old Testament almost always refers to an angelic order of beings (see footnote on Job 1:6 and 2:1 niv study bible)

This event is also spoken of in the book of Jude vs 6-7.
Although many people are uncomfortable with the fallen angel view of Gen 6. It has a great deal of support from the scripture itself and was commonly accepted by the early church fathers.Translators of the septaugint also understood this angel view to be valid.

 

[Elkanah]

Hi,

The "sons of God were the "true believers"? Huh? I don't think so. Read carefully:

Gen 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

Gen 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Gen 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Angels are called "sons of God" in every other place where the expression is used in the Old Testament. Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7. Psalms 29:1; 89:6. Daniel 3:25. (no article). We have no authority or right to take the expression in Genesis 6:2,4 in any other sense. Moreover, in Genesis 6:2 the Septuagint renders it "angels".

Jude talks about them.

Jude 6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

The nature of their fall is clearly stated in the same verse. They left their own (oiketerion). This word occurs only in 2 Corinthians 5:2. Jude 6, where it is used of the spiritual (or resurrection) body.

The time of their fall is given as having taken place "in the days of Noah" (1Peter 3:20. 2Peter 2:7).

For this sin they are "reserved unto judgement", 2Peter 2:4, and are "in prison", 1Peter 3:19.
Continued……

Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Their progeny, called Nephilim (translated "giants"), were unnatural, and had to be destroyed. This was the prime object of the Flood (things they don’t teach you in Sunday school).

9. THESE are °THE GENERATIONS OF NOAH: Noah was a just °man and °perfect in his generations, and Noah °walked with °God.

°THE GENERATIONS. Hebrew toledoth = family history.
°man = Hebrew 'ish.
°perfect. Hebrew tamim, without blemish as to breed or pedigree.

All flesh corrupted but Noah's family. See verses 11,12.
Only Noah and his family had preserved their pedigree pure from Adam. All the rest had become "corrupt" (shachath) destroyed [as Adamites]. The only remedy was to destroy it (defacto), as it had become destroyed (de jure).

The nephilim were hybrids who were never supposed to be, and they have no resurrection. They will cease to exist at the time appointed.

This was why the flood had to come to pass.

 

[James1979]

Elkanah,

I will still stick what God has said in his word. The verses you gave from Gen 6 1-4 points only to the true believers.

In 2 Corinthians 5:2 is talking to the true believers as well as they groan waiting for the day to receive their spiritual glorified body, as they can't use their present body on earth in heaven.

In Jude, God tells us that the fallen angels had left their habitation when they sinned (Satan, the leader of the fallen angels) with Adam and Eve in the garden as this is mention in Gen 3. Plus they received a curse from God at the sametime as well.

Job 1, 2 is pointing to the true believers as sons of God who were in heaven as Satan had access to come in and out of heaven until Satan was kicked out of the kingdom of God which comes later on in the new testament era. Daniel 3:25 is the Lord Jesus Christ who is the son of God. Psalms 89 is speaking towards God's saints, his holy people that he has sanctified as they are sons of God.

1Peter 3 is talking about mankind who are spiritually in prison, in the kingdom of Satan. Noah and his family were taken out of the kingdom of Satan and translation into the kingdom of God through God's word, faith cometh by hearing, hearing the word of God. Noah was a preacher of righteousness and was warning the people in those days about the flood that was coming to destroy the ungodly. Also the prime object was not the appearance of the people on the land, the reason why God destroys anyone is because of their sins.

 

[danlutgen]

shataya,

Well for one the sons of God are true believers. Mankind was made in the image of God and are the only ones who can become sons of God because they have a saviour who is called the son of Man and the son of God. Fallen angels were not made in the image so therefore they can't be called sons of God, they were created to be ministering spirits(hebrew 1:14), basically to serve God. Angels are spirit, they do not have a human so therefore they cannot procreate such as humans do. God created all of the angels one by one. Humans procreated themselves beginning with Adam and Eve.

Also the book of Enoch is not in the bible and was rejected because it did not harmonize with the rest of the books that are in the bible right now. I would not trust the book of enoch for one second.

As far as for the giants that is mentioned in Gen 6:4, these people were very tall. Some of these people were around when David killed Goliath who was very tall as well. Some of the giants had 6 fingers on each hand and 6 toes on each foot. If you do a word study on giants or giant, you should be able to get a better understanding of who the giants were.

Num 13:33 And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, [which come] of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.

the post about these being angels is right. The Hebrew word is used for angels. In Job were he talks of creation He ask Job, "where were you when the sons of God shouted for glory" How many saved were around during creation? None of course so these are angelic beings.Any questions will be studied and answered.

 

[James1979]

danlutgen,

I think you were referring to Job 38.

Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

The morning stars and sons of God are the true believers as well. Remember in Revelation it talks about Christ being the morning star. Genesis 22:17 is another verse when God tells Abraham that through his loins, Jesus Christ would come and will be multipled with a great many people that will enter into the kingdom of God as they are called the stars of heaven.

Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, [and] the bright and morning star.

Rev 2:28 And I will give him the morning star.

When the morning stars and sons of God, singing and shouting for joy. This is because they have received eternal life/salvation and giving God all the glory due unto him.

 

[WAB]

Hi,

The "sons of God were the "true believers"? Huh? I don't think so. Read carefully:

Gen 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

Gen 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Gen 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Angels are called "sons of God" in every other place where the expression is used in the Old Testament. Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7. Psalms 29:1; 89:6. Daniel 3:25. (no article). We have no authority or right to take the expression in Genesis 6:2,4 in any other sense. Moreover, in Genesis 6:2 the Septuagint renders it "angels".

Jude talks about them.

Jude 6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

The nature of their fall is clearly stated in the same verse. They left their own (oiketerion). This word occurs only in 2 Corinthians 5:2. Jude 6, where it is used of the spiritual (or resurrection) body.

The time of their fall is given as having taken place "in the days of Noah" (1Peter 3:20. 2Peter 2:7).

For this sin they are "reserved unto judgement", 2Peter 2:4, and are "in prison", 1Peter 3:19.
Continued……

Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Their progeny, called Nephilim (translated "giants"), were unnatural, and had to be destroyed. This was the prime object of the Flood (things they don’t teach you in Sunday school).

9. THESE are °THE GENERATIONS OF NOAH: Noah was a just °man and °perfect in his generations, and Noah °walked with °God.

°THE GENERATIONS. Hebrew toledoth = family history.
°man = Hebrew 'ish.
°perfect. Hebrew tamim, without blemish as to breed or pedigree.

All flesh corrupted but Noah's family. See verses 11,12.
Only Noah and his family had preserved their pedigree pure from Adam. All the rest had become "corrupt" (shachath) destroyed [as Adamites]. The only remedy was to destroy it (defacto), as it had become destroyed (de jure).

The nephilim were hybrids who were never supposed to be, and they have no resurrection. They will cease to exist at the time appointed.

This was why the flood had to come to pass.

Perhaps a re-reading of Genesis 6:4 might be in order.

"There were giants (Nephilim) in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughter of men..."

The "giants" were already there! And "after that" means just what it says... after that... i.e. at a later time.

So... the "giants" (or nephilim) were present prior to the "sons of God" co-habiting with "...the daughters of men,"

In addition, here is Acts 17:26a... "And He has made from one blood every nation (ethnos; race or tribe) of men to dwell on all the face of the earth..."

The word "blood" does not appear in some manuscripts, and would then indicate that the LORD made from one (that is Adam) every tribe on the face of the earth.

Even if one includes the word "blood" however, the underlying meaning is the same, for if angels have blood, (which I doubt), that would require more than one blood.

Shalom... WAB

 

[Elkanah]

Hi WAB,

Perhaps a re-reading of Genesis 6:4 might be in order.

"There were giants (Nephilim) in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughter of men..."

The "giants" were already there! And "after that" means just what it says... after that... i.e. at a later time.

Your understanding and analysis of this passage is grammatically incorrect, and here is why. The Nephilim are again mentioned in Numbers 13:33 : "there we saw the Nephilim, the sons of Anak, which come of the Nephilim". Now, look at this again : "There were Nephilim in the earth in those days (that is to say, in the days of Noah); and also AFTER THAT, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became [the] mighty men (Hebrew gibbor, the heroes) which were of old, men of renown" (literally, men of the name).

So the words "AFTER THAT", that is to say, after that time (the time just prior to the Flood), there was a second irruption of these fallen angels, for they were for the most part confined to Canaan, and were in fact known as "the nations of Canaan". It was for the destruction of these, that the sword of Israel was necessary, as the Flood had been before.
As to the date of this second irruption, it was evidently soon after it became known that the seed was to come through Abraham; for, when he came out from Haran (Genesis 12:6) and entered Canaan, the significant fact is stated: "The Canaanite was then (that is to say, already) in the land." And in Genesis 14:5 they were already known as "Rephaim" and "Emim", and had established themselves as Ashteroth Karnaim and Shaveh Kiriathaim.
In chapter 15:18-21 they are enumerated and named among Canaanite Peoples: "Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites, and the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Rephaims, and the Amorites, and the Girgashites, and the Jebusites" (Genesis 15:19-21; compare Exodus 3:8,17; 23:23. Deuteronomy 7; 20:17. Joshua 12:8).

These were to be cut off, and driven out, and utterly destroyed (Deuteronomy 20:17. Joshua 3:10). But Israel failed in this (Joshua 13:13; 15:63; 16:10; 17:18. Judges 1:19,20,28,29,30-36; 2:1-5; 3:1-7); and we know not how many got away to other countries to escape the general destruction. As to their other names, they were called Anakim, from one Anak which came of the Nephilim (Numbers 13:23), and Rephaim, from Rapha, another notable one among them.
From Deuteronomy 2:10, they were known by some as Emim, and Horim, and Zamzummim (verse 20,21) and Avim.

It is certain that the second irruption took place before Genesis 14, for there the Rephaim were mixed up with the five nations or peoples, which included Sodom and Gomorrha (The nature of their sin is stated to be "in like manner" to that of the subsequent sins of Sodom and Gomorrha, Jude 7... Something else to consider when pondering Sodom and Gomorrha). They were defeated by the four kings under Chedorlaomer. Their principal locality was evidently "Ashtaroth Karnaim"; while the Emim were in the plain of Kiriathaim (Genesis 14:5).

It is evident that these Nephilim were wicked, and unnatural, and had to be destroyed. They were great, mighty, and tall (Deuteronomy 2:10,11,21,22,23; 9:2), evidently inspiring the ten spies with great fear (Numbers 12:33). They were abnormal beings; and their destruction was necessary for the preservation of the human race, and for the faithfulness of God’s Word.

Only Noah and his family had preserved their “generations” (tamim, without blemish as to breed or pedigree; I.e. pedigree pure from Adam). All the rest had mixed with the Nephilim. The only remedy was to destroy them fully, as was done in the Flood, and then “after that” with the Sword. As far as their “wickedness”; it is evident whenever, and wherever they appear throughout the Scriptures. God’s first order of business whenever they appear is to fully destroy them (given in the Scriptures listed above).

It is crucial to realize that “angels” are called "sons of God" in every other place where the expression is used in the Old Testament. Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7. Psalms 29:1; 89:6. Daniel 3:25. (no article). We have no authority or right to take the expression in Genesis 6:2,4 in any other sense. Moreover, in Genesis 6:2 the Septuagint renders it "angels".

Also, consider this. When Jesus gives a warning in His Olivet prophecy, there is a peculiar passage that should not be assumed to mean what most think without taking a closer look:

Matthew 24:38 "For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark".

Have you ever questioned this verse and asked yourself; “What is wrong with marrying and giving in marriage?” Well, understanding Genesis 6 we can understand what Christ was referring to. Most just assume that people were "living it up", without seriously analyzing what Christ was referring to.

Also, your reference to Acts 17:26 is not relevant, and also assumed by most to mean something that it does not. Your right about “blood” not being in the manuscripts, but you need to analyze that verse further as well. But, that is another subject for another time.

God Bless You

 

[WAB]

Hi Elkanah....
You say..."...your reference to Acts 17:26 is not relevant..."

Please explain how... if the Lord made of one (blood) all nations/tribes of men on earth, how that fact of Scripture could be "not relevant" to the subject at hand?

After all, you postulate that large numbers/tribes of men were the descendents of fallen angels (actually demons by that time) and daughters of men.

Also, in answering the Sadducees who hypocritically questioned the Lord about the wife who supposedly married seven brothers, and wanted to know whose wife she would be "in the resurrection"...

Jesus answered... "ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven."

Obviously, the angels have never married/co-habitated.

 

[Elkanah]

Hi WAB,

Obviously, the angels have never married/co-habitated.

Oh, are you certain?

Obviously you have not fully read the Scripture references I made, and are basing your comments on you own pre-conceived dogma, so I’ll question you (Scripturally). But please go back and actually “look up” all of the references I listed before you give “your opinions” based on irrelevant (to this subject) Scripture references.

First, concerning the “sons of God"; answer this question (Scripturally);

“If the Sons of God are descendants of Seth what are they doing presenting themselves before the Lord in heaven. Job 1:6, 2:1 “ there was a day when the Sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them.” Also why would there be such unusual offspring from marriage if they were all of human kind (i.e. giants, Nephilim)?

On the other side of the coin, answer these few questions (Scripturally);

Where is the Scriptural justification for separating the race of mankind and making one line righteous the other not? Do we not actually find evidence for the opposite? Do not the Scriptures always refer to someone being righteous by their obedience to God, not by their physical posterity or what family they are in? Why would anyone assume all of the Sethite men were Godly in the first place? Is there any Scriptural basis that would indicate that the line of Seth was godly or stayed godly? If so, why were they also destroyed in the flood along with everyone else?

Also, you still haven’t answered the main question at all (not to mention Scripturally):

The Hebrew word for sons of God is Bene elohim. This term for angels occurs four times in the Old Testament in the Septuagint version (the Greek translation of the Hebrew scriptures ) it's meaning is always used as angels of God, never of man. Why is that?

Explain these statements in Peter Scripturally, specifically the passages that are underlined:

2 Peter 2:4-5: “For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to Tartarus, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly.”

Notice the time frame. Why would these angels (the subject) be mentioned in contrast with Noah? Also, The Apostle Peter refers to the spirits in prison more than once. In 1 Pt. 3:19-20 he states that after Christ died he went and “preached to the spirits in prison, who formerly were disobedient, when once the divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah.”

1 Peter 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

Look this up in the Greek, and read closely. This preaching was NOT the good news as is erroneously believed, but to proclaim, announce their inevitable judgment. Don’t believe me? Look it up. Again, notice the reference to Noah’s time.

Have you truly analyzed this passage in Jude:

Jude 6-7: “And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.”

What is this “kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation”? And what is this “going after strange flesh”? Have you checked the Greek? Are you going to try and use the same excuse that the most use, and say it is homosexuality? Sorry, wrong answer. Again, have you checked the Greek?

I’ll give you a head start, since (considering your posts), it is unlikely that you will look this up anyway:

The word strange in Jude 7 is the Greek word heteros (Strong's No. 2087) and means other, different, or strange. Please note that it is not homo.

When you can answer these questions Scripturally, without using your smokescreen of irrelevant Scripture references, then you can boldly make your claims. But for now, you are just spinning your wheels, with absolutely no Scriptural basis to back up your erroneous conclusions. Also, “then” we can talk about Acts 17:26.

 

[DeepMindQuest]

Dr. E.W.Bullingers Appendix Bible - 23. "THE SONS OF GOD" IN GEN. 6:2, 4.
23. "THE SONS OF GOD" IN GEN. 6:2, 4.


It is only by the Divine specific act of creation that any created being can be called "a son of God". For that which is "born of the flesh is flesh". God is spirit, and that which is "born of the Spirit is spirit" (John 3:6). Hence Adam is called a "son of God" in Luke 3:38. Those "in Christ" having "the new nature" which is by the direct creation of God (2Cor. 5:17. Eph. 2:10) can be, and are called "sons of God" (John 1:13. Rom. 8:14, 15. 1John 3:1). (*1)
This is why angels are called "sons of God" in every other place where the expression is used in the Old Testament. Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7. Ps. 29:1; 89:6. Dan. 3:25 (no art.). (*2) We have no authority or right to take the expression in Gen. 6:2, 4 in any other sense. Moreover, in Gen. 6:2 the Sept. renders it "angels". Angels are called "spirits" (Ps. 104:4. Heb. 1:7, 14), for spirits are created by God.

That there was a fall of the angels is certain from Jude 6.

• The nature of their fall is clearly stated in the same verse. They left their own oiketerion. This word occurs only in 2Cor. 5:2 and Jude 6, where it is used of the spiritual (or resurrection) body.
• The nature of their sin is stated to be "in like manner" to that of the subsequent sins of Sodom and Gomorrha, Jude 7.
• The time of their fall is given as having taken place "in the days of Noah" (1Pet. 3:20. 2Pet. 2:7), though there may have been a prior fall which caused the end of "the world that then was" (Gen. 1:1, 2. 2Pet. 3:6).
• For this sin they are "reserved unto judgment", 2Pet. 2:4, and are "in prison", 1Pet. 3:19.
• Their progeny, called Nephilim (translated "giants"), were monsters of iniquity; and, being superhuman in size and character, had to be destroyed This was the one and only object of the Flood.
• Only Noah and his family had preserved their pedigree pure from Adam (Gen. 6:9, see note). All the rest had become "corrupt" (shachath) destroyed [as Adamites]. the only remedy was to destroy it (de facto), as it had become destroyed (de jure). (It is the same word in v. 17 as in vv. 11, 12.) See further under on the Nephilim.

This irruption of fallen angels was Satan's first attempt to prevent the coming of the Seed of the woman foretold in gen. 3:15. If this could be accomplished, God's Word would have failed, and his own doom would be averted.
As soon as it was made known that the Seed of the woman was to come through ABRAHAM, there must have been another irruption, as recorded in Gen. 6:4, "and also after that" (i.e. after the days of Noah, more than 500 years after the first irruption). The aim of the enemy was to occupy Canaan in advance of Abraham, and so to contest its occupation by his seed. For, when Abraham entered Canaan, we read (Gen. 12:6) "the Canaanite was then (i.e. already) in the land."
In the same chapter (Gen. 12:10-20) we see Satan's next attempt to interfere with Abraham's seed, and frustrate the purpose of God that it should be in "Isaac". This attempt was repeated in 20:1-18.
This great conflict may be seen throughout the Bible, and it forms a great and important subject of Biblical study. In each case the human instrument had his own personal interest to serve, while Satan had his own great object in view. Hence God had, in each case, to interfere and avert the evil and the danger, of which his servants and people were wholly ignorant. The following assaults of the great Enemy stand out prominently :--

• The destruction of the chosen family by famine, Gen. 50:20.
• The destruction of the male line in Israel, Ex. 1:10, 15, &c. Cp. Ex. 2:5. Heb. 11:23.
• The destruction of the whole nation in Pharaoh's pursuit, Ex. 14.
• After David's line was singled out (2Sam. 7), that was the next selected for assault. Satan's first assault was in the union of Jehoram and Athaliah by Jehoshaphat, notwithstanding 2Chron. 17:1. Jehoram killed off all his brothers (2Chron. 21:4).
• The Arabians slew all his children, except Ahaziah (2Chron. 21:17; 22:1).
• When Ahaziah died, Athaliah killed "all the seed royal" (2Chron. 22:10). the babe Joash alone was rescued; and, for six years, the faithfulness of Jehovah's word was at stake (2Chron. 23:3).
• Hezekiah was childless, when a double assault was made by the King of Assyria and the King of Terrors (Isa. 36:1; 38:1). God's faithfulness was appealed to and relied on (Ps. 136).
• In Captivity, Haman was used to attempt the destruction of the whole nation (Est. 3:6, 12, 13. Cp. 6:1).
• Joseph's fear was worked on (Matt. 1:18-20). Notwithstanding the fact that he was "a just man", and kept the Law, he did not wish to have Mary stoned to death (Deut. 24:1); hence Joseph determined to divorce her. But God intervened : "Fear not".
• Herod sought the young Child's life (Matt. 2).
• At the Temptation, "Cast Thyself down" was Satan's temptation.
• At Nazareth, again (Luke 4), there was another attempt to cast Him down and destroy Him.
• The two storms on the Lake were other attempts.
• At length the cross was reached, and the sepulcher closed; the watch set; and the stone sealed. But "God raised Him from the dead." And now, like another Joash, He is seated and expecting (Heb. 10:12, 13), hidden in the house of God on high; and the members of "the one body" are hidden there "in Him" (Col. 3:1-3), like another Jehoshaba; and going forth to witness of His coming, like another Jehoiada (2Chron. 23:3).

The irruption of "the fallen angels" ("sons of God") was the first attempt; and was directed against the whole human race.

• When Abraham was called, then he and his seed were attacked.
• When David was enthroned, then the royal line were attacked.
• And when "the Seed of the woman" Himself came, then the storm burst upon Him.

(*1) The word "offspring" in Acts 17:28 is quite different. It is genos, which means merely kin or kind, our genus as being originated by God.
(*2) In Hos. 1:10, it is not beni-ha-Elohim, as here, but beni-el-chai.

 

[SummaScriptura]

<snip>Fallen angels were not made in the image so therefore they can't be called sons of God, they were created to be ministering spirits(hebrew 1:14), basically to serve God. Angels are spirit, they do not have a human so therefore they cannot procreate such as humans do.<snip>

You're stumbling over traditional Christianity's understanding of what is the nature of spirit. These ideas that being a "spirit" excludes the possibility of carnality are from the influence of Greek philosophy upon Western ways of thinking. Jewish writers from the time of the Bible did not have any problem believing angelic spirituality as well as angelic carnality were both simultaneously real, and not mutually exclusive.

Also the book of Enoch is not in the bible and was rejected because it did not harmonize with the rest of the books that are in the bible right now. I would not trust the book of enoch for one second.<snip>

I've been poring over the pages of Enoch since September, 2006 and have yet to see any way in which Enoch does not harmonize with the rest of the books in the Bible. In fact, your choice of the word harmonize is a good one; though Enoch contains additional information not found in the rest of the books of the Bible, all of it harmonizes amazingly well with the Bible.

If you reply to this, please inform us precisely where in Enoch's book you find something that does not jive with the rest of the scriptures.