Gender Identity

[Sabertooth]

The world is also full of overpopulationists who consider it a win if they can talk the masses into sterilizing themselves, voluntarily (in the name of subversion). Forcing them to do so externally, à la China, has proven to be unsympathetic...

 

[RileyG]

Mutation of the mind?

I believe they are referring to mutations of their bodies.

 

[ralliann]

I believe they are referring to mutations of their bodies.

What has that to do with transgender?

 

[RileyG]

What has that to do with transgender?

Not to go off topic, but transgender people mutate their bodies to change how God created them.

 

[RileyG]

This is about gender identity and how you use pronouns. NOT transgenderism.

 

[ralliann]

Not to go off topic, but transgender people mutate their bodies to change how God created them.

No, God created them male or female.

 

[RileyG]

No, God created them male or female.

Amen.

 

[ralliann]

Amen.

thank you, so surgery of the mind is accomplished how. Labotomies are no longer a thing, thank goodness.

 

[RileyG]

thank you, so surgery of the mind is accomplished how. Labotomies are no longer a thing, thank goodness.

...and hopefully these barbaric surgeries are no longer a thing in the future

 

[SeventhFisherofMen]

Is it sin to call people by their gender identity, even though I know that men cannot become women and women cannot become men? It is scientifically impossible.

I don't think Jesus would accuse you of sin, since gender identity is what they identify as. So if they are asking you to call them something they are not, it's like if I introduced myself as Hark!, I'm not Hark! so by introducing myself as him I am lying. The lie would therefor be my fault and responsibility. You would just call me Hark! so as to avoid unnecessary arguments. It's just not worth the hassle and like I said I don't think Jesus is combing our conversation and actions with a fine tooth comb to accuse, there is an accuser and it is not Jesus, that is the enemy.

"Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: “Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Messiah. For the accuser of our brothers and sisters, who accuses them before our God day and night, has been hurled down." Revelation 12:10

 

[Sabertooth]

This is about gender identity and how you use pronouns. NOT transgenderism.

One leads to the other.

 

[ralliann]

...and hopefully these barbaric surgeries are no longer a thing in the future

So how do you do it then? The mind needs to be mutated, not the body.

 

[ralliann]

I don't think Jesus would accuse you of sin, since gender identity is what they identify as. So if they are asking you to call them something they are not, it's like if I introduced myself as Hark!, I'm not Hark! so by introducing myself as him I am lying. The lie would therefor be my fault and responsibility. You would just call me Hark! so as to avoid unnecessary arguments. It's just not worth the hassle and like I said I don't think Jesus is combing our conversation and actions with a fine tooth comb to accuse, there is an accuser and it is not Jesus, that is the enemy.

"Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: “Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Messiah. For the accuser of our brothers and sisters, who accuses them before our God day and night, has been hurled down." Revelation 12:10

Nah, It ain't like to me.

 

[TheLastGeek]

I don't think Jesus would accuse you of sin, since gender identity is what they identify as. So if they are asking you to call them something they are not, it's like if I introduced myself as Hark!, I'm not Hark! so by introducing myself as him I am lying. The lie would therefor be my fault and responsibility. You would just call me Hark! so as to avoid unnecessary arguments. It's just not worth the hassle and like I said I don't think Jesus is combing our conversation and actions with a fine tooth comb to accuse, there is an accuser and it is not Jesus, that is the enemy.

"Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: “Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Messiah. For the accuser of our brothers and sisters, who accuses them before our God day and night, has been hurled down." Revelation 12:10

If I had no idea who Hark was, I'd have no reason to doubt what you were telling me.

If my eyes and brain and common sense see that you're a man, and you're asking me to call you "she", then not only are you lying to me, but you're asking me to lie back to you.

Not going to happen.

 

[SeventhFisherofMen]

If I had no idea who Hark was, I'd have no reason to doubt what you were telling me.

If my eyes and brain and common sense see that you're a man, and you're asking me to call you "she", then not only are you lying to me, but you're asking me to lie back to you.

Not going to happen.

you just gotta choose your battles. If you have a job to provide for your family and a co-worker wants you to call them a she, and you refuse and lose your job just because you don't want to call them a pronoun then that's the battle you choose. Personally it's not a salvation issue to call someone a pronoun. but if you are so set then fine

 

[TheLastGeek]

you just gotta choose your battles. If you have a job to provide for your family and a co-worker wants you to call them a she, and you refuse and lose your job just because you don't want to call them a pronoun then that's the battle you choose. Personally it's not a salvation issue to call someone a pronoun. but if you are so set then fine

I agree, we all must choose our battles. I think that this particular social mania and hysteria and fallacy has gone too far, and there is great harm being done, and it's time to take a stand.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

If I had no idea who Hark was, I'd have no reason to doubt what you were telling me.

If my eyes and brain and common sense see that you're a man, and you're asking me to call you "she", then not only are you lying to me, but you're asking me to lie back to you.

Not going to happen.

This is correct. And it is an intentional lie that both sides with the world against God and serves to promote an abomination. If it is not that big a thing, then why do they insist we do it? And if we are going to lose Jobs and family and friends... then so be it. Jesus said you must love Him more than these things. If we are forced to choose... we have to choose Him, the Word, and the Truth.
I would hate to come down on the side of those who choose lies, abominations, and rejection of the word just so I could be accepted by the world.
It was not that big a thing... until they made it a big thing.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

I agree, we all must choose our battles. I think that this particular social mania and hysteria and fallacy has gone too far, and there is great harm being done, and it's time to take a stand.

It is a preference, nothing more. Nobody should be forced to play along with their imaginary games and preferences. Freedom of speech included not being forced to say things we believe to be lies.

 

[ralliann]

you just gotta choose your battles. If you have a job to provide for your family and a co-worker wants you to call them a she, and you refuse and lose your job just because you don't want to call them a pronoun then that's the battle you choose. Personally it's not a salvation issue to call someone a pronoun. but if you are so set then fine

It is a preference, nothing more. Nobody should be forced to play along with their imaginary games and preferences. Freedom of speech included not being forced to say things we believe to be lies.

aND NOBODY SHOULD BE FORCED TO FOLLOW SOMEONE ELSES IDEA OF WHAT SIN IS IN THIS REGARD. nO DIFFERENT THAN FORCING YOUR RELIGIOUS VIEWS ON ANOTHER.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

aND NOBODY SHOULD BE FORCED TO FOLLOW SOMEONE ELSES IDEA OF WHAT SIN IS IN THIS REGARD. nO DIFFERENT THAN FORCING YOUR RELIGIOUS VIEWS ON ANOTHER.

You are correct... and this is a religion. Not a very good one and even worse when you consider they are forcing it on children and even hiding the fact they are doing it.