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Sayre

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Unless you are an Orthodox Jew, stop living in the OT. If you pick and choose from the OT, you are a hypocrite. Do you know what else was an abomination in the OT? Eating pork or touching the skin of a dead pig. I don't know about you, but I love my bacon and playing football.

Jesus was sent to die for our sins; past, present and future. Through Jesus we are given a new covenant with only 2 commandments:

1. Love God [unconditionally]
2. Love other people [unconditionally]

You can talk to a gay about his lifestyle, but do not judge. It is his decision whether or not to go straight, and whether or not to accept Jesus as his savior.

Oh for heavens sake. You are NOT a progressive Baptist, that much is ultra clear. I challenge you to find progressive Christians who would agree with you that gays can make a decision about whether to go straight. This notion of being saved from sins and accepting Jesus as savior is also not a progressive idea. I am not a baptist, but I recognise a fake progressive when I see one.

The OT foreshadows the NT. That doesn't mean that no one can reference the OT. In fact, the moral law has not changed - it is now written on our hearts.

And yes, I do intend to call you out. :thumbsup:

(Please note, I am not making any comments about whether or not I consider homosexuality sinful and nor am I making any statement about whether or not people should engage in same sex marriage or same sex activities.)
 
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Edit: first response was too harsh, had to check myself.

Yes, yes...you are an ultra conservative, we get that. Now run along and go study some more. Oh, and try using a formal equivalent translation like the NASB, instead of a highly paraphrased one like the NLT.

I agree with miamited (Ted) on his assessment of you. You did the exact same thing in the other thread. False allegations, misinterpretations, not supporting your points but opting to attack the other person instead, etc. You say you want to be a pastor...God help your congregation if this will be your example.

We'll be praying for you.

Yeah as always skip over my points label and mock me, and use no biblical evidence what so ever.

No your attack the church I will work at in the future is this an attack on me or God because after all He called me. Better watch who you picking your fights with there mister super liberal, hey wait I thought liberals did not like labels I guess they do when they are handing them out right.

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God has a sense of humor. We pass gas...

Perhaps He makes prank calls as well?

are you mocking my call now? so your mocking God. You really have no fear of God what so ever but you will. and I might take offense if a child of God had said that to me, but I don't get upset over false teachers.

See I have come such a long way because in the old days i would just have beaten the smart but out of you, but then again I bet you don't speak this way to people face to face. Such is true with cowards.
 
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Its pretty clear this no longer does anything for Gods kingdom, we do all understand that nonbelievers can freely view this forum right? if i was searching for answers and saw Christians squabbling like this i would go somewhere else. I recommend we all walk away and let this thread die.
 
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See I have come such a long way because in the old days i would just have beaten the smart but out of you, but then again I bet you don't speak this way to people face to face. Such is true with cowards.

Actually, I do.

I have a sense of humor.

2 Timothy 3:16-17 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work.

He needed a good dose of that.

Done here. :wave:
 
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Its pretty clear this no longer does anything for Gods kingdom, we do all understand that nonbelievers can freely view this forum right? if i was searching for answers and saw Christians squabbling like this i would go somewhere else. I recommend we all walk away and let this thread die.

See that is just it some people claim to be christian but are not. Children Of God do not argue in such ways. However conflicts between the children of darkness and children of the light can be, well unpleasant.
 
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Actually, I do.

I have a sense of humor.

2 Timothy 3:16-17 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work.

He needed a good dose of that.

Done here. :wave:

Oh i needed to have My faith question and be tempted in to sinning. well we all Know who the great tempter is don't we.
 
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Since people have some false conceptions of Homosexuality here, I'll share some things with you all. In earlier years I was Bisexual and I can tell you something of how it works.

When I was 11 or 12 (somewhere in-between), I was an average, heterosexual kid. One with an addiction to pornography, but heterosexual nonetheless. Then something happened. I don't want to go into details, but first through crossdressers, I started to slowly develop a homosexual aspect. It grew into something much larger than that, and soon I could sometimes find even real men attractive. It went that way for a few years and I grew in perversity, yet I always knew deep in my heart that (I wasn't a Christian though I admired Christian values, though I knew nothing of them) there was something wrong with my sexuality and it was disgusting.

Anyway. After learning more about Christianity and deciding to follow it's path, I started praying about my sexuality, naturally. I feel God's healed me a bit, but I will not and cannot say that I was 'born this way'. It was a learned behavior attained through subtle steps down the stairway to Hell. While I still struggle with me, I can recognize that it's my own fault for ever having dabbled in these things at all.

Having thus said so, for these reasons I am convinced that nobody is born 'Gay' and that at some point, the Devil tempted them, and they submitted to those temptations, and began 'discovering their sexualities' (but in actuality, the tree of sin was growing in their hearts). As time went on they may even forget about these things, and soon become convinced that it was natural and that they simply had to discover what they really were! And worst of all, they push their sins onto the rest of us, deceived into thinking it's normal, and make it even easier for children to fall into that same sin.
 
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Since people have some false conceptions of Homosexuality here, I'll share some things with you all. In earlier years I was Bisexual and I can tell you something of how it works.

When I was 11 or 12 (somewhere in-between), I was an average, heterosexual kid. One with an addiction to pornography, but heterosexual nonetheless. Then something happened. I don't want to go into details, but first through crossdressers, I started to slowly develop a homosexual aspect. It grew into something much larger than that, and soon I could sometimes find even real men attractive. It went that way for a few years and I grew in perversity, yet I always knew deep in my heart that (I wasn't a Christian though I admired Christian values, though I knew nothing of them) there was something wrong with my sexuality and it was disgusting.

Anyway. After learning more about Christianity and deciding to follow it's path, I started praying about my sexuality, naturally. I feel God's healed me a bit, but I will not and cannot say that I was 'born this way'. It was a learned behavior attained through subtle steps down the stairway to Hell. While I still struggle with me, I can recognize that it's my own fault for ever having dabbled in these things at all.

Having thus said so, for these reasons I am convinced that nobody is born 'Gay' and that at some point, the Devil tempted them, and they submitted to those temptations, and began 'discovering their sexualities' (but in actuality, the tree of sin was growing in their hearts). As time went on they may even forget about these things, and soon become convinced that it was natural and that they simply had to discover what they really were! And worst of all, they push their sins onto the rest of us, deceived into thinking it's normal, and make it even easier for children to fall into that same sin.

It took a lot of courage to tell your story, and i see the truth in your words.

The Bible tells us it perverse. I would suspect as you say you watched porn and that is where it started. Porn is also perverse and from that is grows in to all other sins like you have all the sexual sins, adultery, gay, animal sex, sex with children, all kinds of unnatural acts with a woman. It also lead to the other sin, lying,rape, murder, worship of false gods and others. So when people say why fight it there is a lot at stake that's why.

Gays promote their sex as natural because in their hearts they know it is wrong, and they do not want to feel guilty.

I don't condemn them but I do ask they accepted it as sin and fight not to do it. The same way other men might struggle with porn.

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