Garland investigation of Hunter....

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Because Americans know what he's like a president. And because they've now seen the evidence that he was behind the coup attempt. Most of them think he needs to be indicted.

Problem is, while he probably can't win the nomination (even most republicans are now disgusted with him) he does have the allegiance of enough bottom-feeders to wreck the party if he decides to do that. So they have to carefully groom him to accept that he won't be nominated, but gently enough that he won't become angry and bolt.

The party can no longer win without racists and domestic extremists. Initially, guys like McConnell and McCarthy thought they could control those people. But that never works.

This is why DeSantis is outwardly deferential, while undercutting Trump behind his back.

Who are you calling racists and extremists? The Republicans are going to do well in the midterms because of Biden's incompetence and his dismal performance.

 

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By that standard, Trump and Matt Gaetz would be in jail. But then, both of them still might be.

Matt Gaetz, under investigation for possible sex trafficking, was among 20 Republicans to vote against reauthorizing a sex-trafficking law
Matt Gaetz, under investigation for possible sex trafficking, was among 20 Republicans to vote against reauthorizing a sex-trafficking law

A clear conflict of interest if there ever was one.

A former federal prosecutor predicted Donald Trump will be indicted for his role in the Capitol riot.
A former federal prosecutor says Donald Trump will be indicted 'if we care about the survival of our democracy'

So maybe you have a point, even if the laptop thing is a bust.



Had a drug addiction, and other issues.

Income tax evasion, money laundering, influence peddling, failing to register as an agent of a foreign government among other issues. I expect no indictments as long as Democrats are in power.

 

[The Barbarian]

Income tax evasion, money laundering, influence peddling, failing to register as an agent of a foreign government among other issues.

It always comes down to evidence, doesn't it? That's why Trump, who was obsessed with finding a crime by Joe Biden, was constantly frustrated by his AG, who kept pointing out the lack of evidence.

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump on Tuesday called on Attorney General William Barr to immediately launch an investigation into unverified claims about Democrat Joe Biden and his son Hunter, effectively demanding that the Justice Department muddy his political opponent and abandon its historic resistance to getting involved in elections.

With just two weeks to go before Election Day, Trump for the first time explicitly called on Barr to investigate the Bidens and even pointed to the nearing Nov. 3 election as reason that Barr should not delay taking action. Trump has been leveling accusations of corruption against Biden without verified evidence for months, but is stepping up the pressure in the final days of the campaign.

“We’ve got to get the attorney general to act,” Trump said in an interview on “Fox & Friends.” “He’s got to act, and he’s got to act fast. He’s got to appoint somebody. This is major corruption, and this has to be known about before the election.”
Trump ups pressure on Barr to probe Bidens as election nears

Reality is tough to take sometimes, but it is real. We all have to find a way to live with it. Trump seems to have never learned how to do that.

 

[BPPLEE]

It always comes down to evidence, doesn't it? That's why Trump, who was obsessed with finding a crime by Joe Biden, was constantly frustrated by his AG, who kept pointing out the lack of evidence.

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump on Tuesday called on Attorney General William Barr to immediately launch an investigation into unverified claims about Democrat Joe Biden and his son Hunter, effectively demanding that the Justice Department muddy his political opponent and abandon its historic resistance to getting involved in elections.

With just two weeks to go before Election Day, Trump for the first time explicitly called on Barr to investigate the Bidens and even pointed to the nearing Nov. 3 election as reason that Barr should not delay taking action. Trump has been leveling accusations of corruption against Biden without verified evidence for months, but is stepping up the pressure in the final days of the campaign.

“We’ve got to get the attorney general to act,” Trump said in an interview on “Fox & Friends.” “He’s got to act, and he’s got to act fast. He’s got to appoint somebody. This is major corruption, and this has to be known about before the election.”
Trump ups pressure on Barr to probe Bidens as election nears

Reality is tough to take sometimes, but it is real. We all have to find a way to live with it. Trump seems to have never learned how to do that.

We'll see if there is any evidence if the Republicans take the majority. The problem may be that there are so many others doing the same thing, people in glass houses and all that. As far as Trump I can't support his actions after the election and I really wish he would not run again.At Least 14 of Hunter Biden’s Business Associates Met With Joe Biden, Despite President’s Denial | National Review

 

[The Barbarian]

We'll see if there is any evidence if the Republicans take the majority.

There wasn't any the last time they took the majority. There's a difference between partisan claims and being able to actually find evidence. Remember how Hillary Clinton humiliated Trey Gowdy and his committee? While it all unraveled, she sat there, smirking. It was quite amusing how Gowdy repeatedly refused to summarize the committee's findings when it all wrapped up. He just couldn't bring himself to admit that they found nothing remotely indictable.

I'm not sure Kevin McCarthy is willing to go through that, again.

 

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There wasn't any the last time they took the majority. There's a difference between partisan claims and being able to actually find evidence. Remember how Hillary Clinton humiliated Trey Gowdy and his committee? While it all unraveled, she sat there, smirking. It was quite amusing how Gowdy repeatedly refused to summarize the committee's findings when it all wrapped up. He just couldn't bring himself to admit that they found nothing remotely indictable.

I'm not sure Kevin McCarthy is willing to go through that, again.

It was Comey who decided he could act as a prosecutor which he didn't have the authority to do and decided not to bring charges against Hillary. There was more than enough evidence.

 

[The Barbarian]

It was Comey who decided he could act as a prosecutor which he didn't have the authority to do and decided not to bring charges against Hillary. There was more than enough evidence.

Trump fired Comey for not finding any crime. Trump's AG found nothing. He appointed Durham to find something. The prize so far, was in his attempt to take down a minor character on a very shaky legal theory. It failed. Badly:

Special counsel John Durham, the Donald Trump-era prosecutor hunting for wrongdoing in the Trump-Russia investigations, came up empty Tuesday after a federal jury returned a not guilty verdict in his first major case against a Hillary Clinton campaign lawyer.
The lawyer, Michael Sussmann, was acquitted on charges of lying to the FBI at a fall 2016 meeting where he passed along a tip about Trump's ties to Russia. In many ways, the trial was a proxy battleground to relitigate the most heated moments of the 2016 election, and was a crucial test of Durham's theory that Clinton allies broke the law with their anti-Trump opposition research.
...
The verdict is a significant blow to the Durham probe. After more than three years, Durham has racked up one guilty plea, one acquittal at trial and has one more trial scheduled for this fall.
Since Durham began his work in 2019, he has been accused by critics of running a politicized operation that is essentially chasing down right-wing conspiracies about the Russia probe. The outcome of the Sussmann case is sure to fuel these criticisms.
"Criminalizing political opposition research-related activity of this type serves no criminal justice purpose," said Michael Zeldin, a former federal prosecutor at the Justice Department and a former CNN legal analyst. "Hopefully, this verdict will have a chilling impact on future prosecutions if Durham intends to proceed using the same flawed theory of criminal liability."
Durham investigation of hillary clinton ends at DuckDuckGo

If there was "more than enough evidence", you'd think Durham would be able to find some of it. Garland could fire him, but given his misfires so far, it looks as though he's more valuable to the democrats where he is.

 

[BPPLEE]

Trump fired Comey for not finding any crime. Trump's AG found nothing. He appointed Durham to find something. The prize so far, was in his attempt to take down a minor character on a very shaky legal theory. It failed. Badly:

Special counsel John Durham, the Donald Trump-era prosecutor hunting for wrongdoing in the Trump-Russia investigations, came up empty Tuesday after a federal jury returned a not guilty verdict in his first major case against a Hillary Clinton campaign lawyer.
The lawyer, Michael Sussmann, was acquitted on charges of lying to the FBI at a fall 2016 meeting where he passed along a tip about Trump's ties to Russia. In many ways, the trial was a proxy battleground to relitigate the most heated moments of the 2016 election, and was a crucial test of Durham's theory that Clinton allies broke the law with their anti-Trump opposition research.
...
The verdict is a significant blow to the Durham probe. After more than three years, Durham has racked up one guilty plea, one acquittal at trial and has one more trial scheduled for this fall.
Since Durham began his work in 2019, he has been accused by critics of running a politicized operation that is essentially chasing down right-wing conspiracies about the Russia probe. The outcome of the Sussmann case is sure to fuel these criticisms.
"Criminalizing political opposition research-related activity of this type serves no criminal justice purpose," said Michael Zeldin, a former federal prosecutor at the Justice Department and a former CNN legal analyst. "Hopefully, this verdict will have a chilling impact on future prosecutions if Durham intends to proceed using the same flawed theory of criminal liability."
Durham investigation of hillary clinton ends at DuckDuckGo

If there was "more than enough evidence", you'd think Durham would be able to find some of it. Garland could fire him, but given his misfires so far, it looks as though he's more valuable to the democrats where he is.

Durham is not investigating Hillary's use of a private server.

 

[The Barbarian]

Durham is not investigating Hillary's use of a private server.

Since it's been repeatedly investigated and found to involve no crimes, there's not much for him to do. But someone has been checking on possible crimes for another such case:

Trump Family Private Email Server Scandal Erupts Weeks Before Election
Trump Family Private Email Server Scandal Erupts Weeks Before Election

Likely, there won't be indictments for that, either, because usually such things don't involve crimes. But let's see what comes out...

 

[BPPLEE]

Since it's been repeatedly investigated and found to involve no crimes, there's not much for him to do. But someone has been checking on possible crimes for another such case:

Trump Family Private Email Server Scandal Erupts Weeks Before Election
Trump Family Private Email Server Scandal Erupts Weeks Before Election

Likely, there won't be indictments for that, either, because usually such things don't involve crimes. But let's see what comes out...

Could you pick a more biased source? I don't think so.

 

[The Barbarian]

Could you pick a more biased source? I don't think so.

You're saying they didn't have a private email server?

Donald Trump's senior White House staff including Kellyanne Conway, Jared Kushner, Sean Spicer and Steve Bannon all use a private RNC email server, according to a Newsweek report published Wednesday. This is the same RNC email server that mysteriously disappeared 22 million messages during George W Bush's administration and the one that US intelligence services believe was compromised by the Russians at the same time as the DNC's, earlier this year.
Trump's most senior staff use a private email server | Engadget

No point in denial.

 

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You're saying they didn't have a private email server?

Donald Trump's senior White House staff including Kellyanne Conway, Jared Kushner, Sean Spicer and Steve Bannon all use a private RNC email server, according to a Newsweek report published Wednesday. This is the same RNC email server that mysteriously disappeared 22 million messages during George W Bush's administration and the one that US intelligence services believe was compromised by the Russians at the same time as the DNC's, earlier this year.
Trump's most senior staff use a private email server | Engadget

No point in denial.

Read the Newsweek article you cited. There's nothing wrong with having a separate account it's sending classified information over a private server that is the problem. Never heard of Engadget just more left wing propaganda Apparently you did find a more biased source I was wrong.

 

[The Barbarian]

Read the Newsweek article you cited. There's nothing wrong with having a separate account it's sending classified information over a private server that is the problem.

So let's see how that goes. Show us that Trump or Clinton sent classified information over a private server. What do you have?

Trump did illegally pass on classified information on his Twitter account:
On the morning of Aug. 30, 2019, then-President Donald Trump was receiving his daily intelligence briefing with a a select group of senior national security officials, including CIA Director Gina Haspel, national security adviser John Bolton and other top aides.

U.S. officials at the meeting were delighted. The previous day, Iran had attempted to launch a satellite into space, but the launch had failed spectacularly, with the rocket exploding on the pad.

Included in that morning’s briefing materials was a classified image, taken by satellite, of the botched rocket launch, showing extensive damage to the site.

The president was taken by the image. “Trump thought this was very neat, and asked if he could keep it,” said a former Trump administration official. “And after some hesitation, the intelligence briefer said, 'Yes.'"

Officials had been nervous about leaving the image with the president, according to the former official, who attended the meeting. “Gina [and other intelligence officials] may have said something like, ‘Well, don’t do anything with it, don’t show it to anybody.’ But I think he just blew them off. He said, ‘I just want to look at the picture.’”

About an hour later, Trump tweeted the picture.
More than two years after Trump tweeted a classified image of Iran, former officials are divided on fallout

Trump also illegally took classified information out of the WH after he lost the election to Joe Biden. But show us that Hillary Clinton did stuff like that. What do you have?

 

[BPPLEE]

So let's see how that goes. Show us that Trump or Clinton sent classified information over a private server. What do you have?

Trump did illegally pass on classified information on his Twitter account:
On the morning of Aug. 30, 2019, then-President Donald Trump was receiving his daily intelligence briefing with a a select group of senior national security officials, including CIA Director Gina Haspel, national security adviser John Bolton and other top aides.

U.S. officials at the meeting were delighted. The previous day, Iran had attempted to launch a satellite into space, but the launch had failed spectacularly, with the rocket exploding on the pad.

Included in that morning’s briefing materials was a classified image, taken by satellite, of the botched rocket launch, showing extensive damage to the site.

The president was taken by the image. “Trump thought this was very neat, and asked if he could keep it,” said a former Trump administration official. “And after some hesitation, the intelligence briefer said, 'Yes.'"

Officials had been nervous about leaving the image with the president, according to the former official, who attended the meeting. “Gina [and other intelligence officials] may have said something like, ‘Well, don’t do anything with it, don’t show it to anybody.’ But I think he just blew them off. He said, ‘I just want to look at the picture.’”

About an hour later, Trump tweeted the picture.
More than two years after Trump tweeted a classified image of Iran, former officials are divided on fallout

Trump also illegally took classified information out of the WH after he lost the election to Joe Biden. But show us that Hillary Clinton did stuff like that. What do you have?

Comey's own words when he announced his decision not to charge her. This is all old news. Nobody cares about what Hillary did. If Trump took anything illegally I'm sure they will get around to that in the hearings

 

[The Barbarian]

Comey's own words when he announced his decision not to charge her. This is all old news. Nobody cares about what Hillary did.

As you seem to now realize, lacking any evidence of criminal actions, no one cares.

As you see, Trump actually did illegally release classified material.

 

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As you seem to now realize, lacking any evidence of criminal actions, no one cares.

As you see, Trump actually did illegally release classified material.

If he did why hasn't anyone heard anything about it ? It would've been all over the news if there was anything to it. This is the first I have heard of it. It seems very unlikely the media who were determined to take him out would give him a pass on it. Why have charges not been brought? This would be easy to prove and would probably be enough to keep him from running again so why haven't the Democrats pressed for charges? Oh yeah. The President has the power to declassify information. So he can tweet anything he wants. It may not have been smart but it was not illegal

 

[The Barbarian]

As you seem to now realize, lacking any evidence of criminal actions, no one cares.

As you see, Trump actually did illegally release classified material.

If he did why hasn't anyone heard anything about it ?

He posted it on Twitter. Millions of people heard about it, And as a consquence, Iran (and all our other enemies in the world) have a better idea of how good our satellite intelligence is. It was the American media that reported on it.

Why have charges not been brought?

There have been changes. We fired him, for one thing.

The President has the power to declassify information.

He didn't do that. He just put classified material out on the internet, without formally declassifying it. It's declassified now, because he let the world see it. But even if he had, it still would have damaged American security.

Because the shadows on the site in the picture give a precise time for the shot, Iranian intelligence people can now identify the satellite that took it, which gives them a leg up on hiding things from us.

It's not the first time Trump blabbed intelligence matters:

In May of 2017, President Trump shared sensitive intelligence from a foreign partner on ISIS with Russia's ambassador and Foreign Minister in an Oval Office visit.
President Trump tweets picture of sensitive satellite photo of Iranian launch site

 

[BPPLEE]

As you seem to now realize, lacking any evidence of criminal actions, no one cares.

As you see, Trump actually did illegally release classified material.



He posted it on Twitter. Millions of people heard about it, And as a consquence, Iran (and all our other enemies in the world) have a better idea of how good our satellite intelligence is. It was the American media that reported on it.



There have been changes. We fired him, for one thing.



He didn't do that. He just put classified material out on the internet, without formally declassifying it. It's declassified now, because he let the world see it. But even if he had, it still would have damaged American security.

Because the shadows on the site in the picture give a precise time for the shot, Iranian intelligence people can now identify the satellite that took it, which gives them a leg up on hiding things from us.

It's not the first time Trump blabbed intelligence matters:

In May of 2017, President Trump shared sensitive intelligence from a foreign partner on ISIS with Russia's ambassador and Foreign Minister in an Oval Office visit.
President Trump tweets picture of sensitive satellite photo of Iranian launch site

Biden said US soldiers would be going to Ukraine, then when he walked back what he said, he revealed classified information that the US was training Ukrainians
Joe Biden says US troops will be in Ukraine in apparent gaffe

 

[The Barbarian]

Biden said US soldiers would be going to Ukraine, then when he walked back what he said,

That's not a classified information. Perhaps you don't know what "classified" means?

he revealed classified information that the US was training Ukrainians

Since we were doing it openly, how do you think it was "classified?"
U.S. Security Cooperation with Ukraine - United States Department of State

US paratroopers begin training Ukraine national guard units
This article is more than 7 years old
Nearly 300 US soldiers hold joint exercises with 900 of Ukrainian counterparts in a move Moscow said could destabilise the situation in the east of the country
US paratroopers begin training Ukraine national guard units

 

[BPPLEE]

That's not a classified information. Perhaps you don't know what "classified" means?



Since we were doing it openly, how do you think it was "classified?"
U.S. Security Cooperation with Ukraine - United States Department of State

US paratroopers begin training Ukraine national guard units
This article is more than 7 years old
Nearly 300 US soldiers hold joint exercises with 900 of Ukrainian counterparts in a move Moscow said could destabilise the situation in the east of the country
US paratroopers begin training Ukraine national guard units

I think it had to do with the location, you are right though it was known. He just messed up when he said “You’re going to see when you’re there, and some of you have been there, you’re gonna see — you’re gonna see women, young people standing in the middle in front of a damned tank just saying, ‘I’m not leaving, I’m holding my ground,’”