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HUH???
These are not actual things in the real world. Inventions of incompetent geology. There was no death before the fall. After thee was.
After all the conversation here how could throw at me plants came in this age and so on.
These ages from rock formation/fossils are in fact just from the flood year fossilization. Different areas with different fossils.
No fossilization before the flood. most fossilization during the flood year.
its difficult and not happening today to fossilize.

Here you go again, more Bu!!$h!t. If you want me to take you seriously, then answer the following, which are some geological observation that need explaining in the context of the biblical global flood.

Palaeosols (fossil soils) through the biblical flood deposits.

Animal tracks through the biblical flood deposits.

Coal seams with root systems through the biblical flood deposits.

Large igneous provinces with massive amounts of subaerial basaltic flows in the biblical flood deposits.

You ignore all the evidence in your so called biblical flood deposits that disproves your fairytale.
 
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Why wouldn't there be any fossilisation before the flood? And after the flood all of a sudden it was made possible? How convenient.


ChordatesLegacy, your posts are a joy to read. But I think you already know they fall on deaf ears - all YECs have had their fair share of reason shunted in their faces but to no avail. I don't understand why they seem to migrate here, poke around armed with a few pseudoscientific claims and evidences, then once we take that path further they just reject it, once it passes into their comfort zone (i.e. the zone when playing the faith/"God is inexplicable by human logic" -card.
 
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This is a christian forum so please hold the potty mouth. I'm not mad at you.
We have discussed these points on other threads. You lost as I remember.
All data is easily explained by the sudden events of earth movement and pressurized water.
I don't see why you persist in saying igneous rock formations are not compatible with great volcanic explosions during continental breakup during the flood year. We simply see a great break that occured during the flood year and expect to find, and desire to find, great volcanic outpourings everywhere. Deep in the ground, coming out of the ground, rest on previous ground. Mts poping up everywhere and just as quickly being destroyed.
everything, almost, on earth shows the impact of a world overthrown by the events with the flood.
 
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This is a christian forum so please hold the potty mouth. I'm not mad at you.
We have discussed these points on other threads. You lost as I remember.
All data is easily explained by the sudden events of earth movement and pressurized water.
I don't see why you persist in saying igneous rock formations are not compatible with great volcanic explosions during continental breakup during the flood year. We simply see a great break that occured during the flood year and expect to find, and desire to find, great volcanic outpourings everywhere. Deep in the ground, coming out of the ground, rest on previous ground. Mts poping up everywhere and just as quickly being destroyed.
everything, almost, on earth shows the impact of a world overthrown by the events with the flood.

If this is a Christian forum and you are a creationist, then why do you lie in almost every post including this one? Your flood geology explains nothing, even if you could find it, which you cannot.

In several threads in this forum, evidence that clearly shows that the Palaeozoic and Mesozoic are not flood deposits, this evidence included the following:

1 Palaeosols (fossil soils); terrestrial
2 Coals with root systems; terrestrial
3 Desiccation cracks; terrestrial
4 Vertebrate tracks; terrestrial
5 Vertebrate nests and eggs; terrestrial
6 Vertebrate burrows with young in them; terrestrial

You have won nothing except the following for the most hand waving and ignorance in respect of geological and biological history.

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I am still waiting for you to supply us with one piece of evidence to support creationist magical mystical claims.
 
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We have discussed these things and some are interesting points for creationists to have answers for. Yet this is the best you can do. Overall the case of geology fits fine and better with creationist models rather then otherwise. Points here or there can be dealt with by creationists who put their mind to it. I have offered options to explain seeming segregations of long time events in formations. Yet the first instinct should be a pile of this or that is from a collecting power and sorting or some detail of the collection process can explain details.
Geology is a big field and should have big evidence to back up its great claims. It doesn't. Little points about prints of soil is not even close to a sure foundation that opposes Genesis.
 
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We have discussed these things and some are interesting points for creationists to have answers for. Yet this is the best you can do. Overall the case of geology fits fine and better with creationist models rather then otherwise.

Everything works well with "Creationist Models," except accuracy.

But I've noticed that's never been a high priority among Creationists.

Points here or there can be dealt with by creationists who put their mind to it.

When you use your imagination, Creationists can "deal with" just about anything.

When you use the available facts, Creationists waffle like Aunt Jemima.

I have offered options to explain seeming segregations of long time events in formations. Yet the first instinct should be a pile of this or that is from a collecting power and sorting or some detail of the collection process can explain details.

"Instinct"? So, you have no facts, then?

Geology is a big field and should have big evidence to back up its great claims. It doesn't. Little points about prints of soil is not even close to a sure foundation that opposes Genesis.

Considering that Genesis has absolutely nothing to back up its great claims, how much contrary evidence is really necessary?

It only takes a small thing to blow down a house of cards.
 
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