Furturist End Times forum

[dysert]

throwing my vote in

 

[Douggg]

I would like to refine my suggestion for a "futurists only forum" to have within the forum, in addition to the general discussion section, safehouses for:

Futurist only forum:

General discussion : for all futurists views.

Safehouses:

1.The Antichrist comes out of Europe view.

2. The Muslim Antichrist view

3. The Office of Pope Antichrist view


I think if the "Futurists Only Forum" were structured this way, it would be a whole lot less stressful. I am just tired of arguing with all the nonsense, over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over and over, and over, and over, and over, ..........

 

[dysert]

Speaking of which, how long does it take for a new forum request to be decided?

 

[Tallguy88]

I would like to refine my suggestion for a "futurists only forum" to have within the forum, in addition to the general discussion section, safehouses for:

Futurist only forum:

General discussion : for all futurists views.

Safehouses:

1.The Antichrist comes out of Europe view.

2. The Muslim Antichrist view

3. The Office of Pope Antichrist view


I think if the "Futurists Only Forum" were structured this way, it would be a whole lot less stressful. I am just tired of arguing with all the nonsense, over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over and over, and over, and over, and over, ..........

Although the decision on this lies much higher up the ladder than me, I do have a suggestion for you in the meantime. Have you thought stating in your opening post when you make a thread that you are only seeking opinions from furutists only?

Like:

"I was wondering what fellow futurists think about xyz. I'm only looking for responses from futurists. Other endtimes views are off topic to this thread." That way, when the partial Preterists or whoever else come along and wants to argue, you can report them for being off topic to your thread and we mods would take care of it.

 

[bibletruth469]

I agree! The regular eschatology forum has turned a debate over preterist or futurist view on almost every thread!

 

[Edial]

Although the decision on this lies much higher up the ladder than me, I do have a suggestion for you in the meantime. Have you thought stating in your opening post when you make a thread that you are only seeking opinions from furutists only?

Like:

"I was wondering what fellow futurists think about xyz. I'm only looking for responses from futurists. Other endtimes views are off topic to this thread." That way, when the partial Preterists or whoever else come along and wants to argue, you can report them for being off topic to your thread and we mods would take care of it.

Let's arrange the same type of a setup you had for that other forum.

Futurist should not really be broken down into sub-futurist forums at this time.
It should basically revolve around the Christian pre-millenial view with pre- post- mid- tribulationalists in one forum.
We could provide safe houses for each trib views in the future, since each view is complex in it's own way.
But let's see how this goes without sub-forums and just a Futuristic view?

Thanks,
Ed

 

[Tallguy88]

Let's arrange the same type of a setup you had for that other forum.

Futurist should not really be broken down into sub-futurist forums at this time.
It should basically revolve around the Christian pre-millenial view with pre- post- mid- tribulationalists in one forum.
We could provide safe houses for each trib views in the future, since each view is complex in it's own way.
But let's see how this goes without sub-forums and just a Futuristic view?

Thanks,
Ed

You mean do it with thread tags like we do in Spirit-Filled/Charismatic?

 

[dfw69]

You have my vote Doug...


I have seen peace in the messianic forum and as long as I don't break thier rules they have been kind and welcome me

I often wished futurist had a similar forum...posting in the current forum has been a nightmare at times...it can get pretty heated at times...well heres my two cents...

Peace...good luck

Hopefully we get a new forums and it would attract more futurist

 

[Edial]

You mean do it with thread tags like we do in Spirit-Filled/Charismatic?

That's not what I meant ... but EXCELLENT idea.

Yeah, maybe we should use the Spirit Filled format for that with tags and all.
I really like the way it is set up there.

 

[Douggg]

Although the decision on this lies much higher up the ladder than me, I do have a suggestion for you in the meantime. Have you thought stating in your opening post when you make a thread that you are only seeking opinions from furutists only?

Like:

"I was wondering what fellow futurists think about xyz. I'm only looking for responses from futurists. Other endtimes views are off topic to this thread." That way, when the partial Preterists or whoever else come along and wants to argue, you can report them for being off topic to your thread and we mods would take care of it.

Not that simple. Preterists are part of the problem.

I have made countless posts on several boards across the internet arguing against the Mulsim Antichrist view and the Office of Pope Antichrist view - themselves both futurist views - which is like communicating to a brick wall for the most part, a lot of energy time and effort expended and no fruit.

So for me, I want to be able to just leave them to their own devices, and still get the points of my posts out. Which a futurist only forum - with a "The Antichrist comes out of Europe" safehouse, would be most beneficial.

I suggested the other two safehouses, in consideration of the other two major futurists views held - albeit I personally oppose each of those - to accommodate the widest number of posters.

Of course a General Discussion area would allow for cross examination of all futurist views, of them wanting to go through all that.

The other forum - the current "Eschatology" forum, I am willing to cede to the preterists.

 

[Douggg]

What I am advocating with my suggestion is "choice" for the posters, instead of forcing them into a pit bull arena to fight it out like in the current Eschatology forum.

 

[tranquil]

I agree we need a futurist only forum.

 

[dfw69]

I agree we need a futurist only forum.

That would be cool..

 

[Douggg]

Let's arrange the same type of a setup you had for that other forum.

Futurist should not really be broken down into sub-futurist forums at this time.
It should basically revolve around the Christian pre-millenial view with pre- post- mid- tribulationalists in one forum.
We could provide safe houses for each trib views in the future, since each view is complex in it's own way.
But let's see how this goes without sub-forums and just a Futuristic view?

Thanks,
Ed

Edial, my suggestion for a "Futurist Only Eschatological Forum" is for a new forum that is completely detached from the current Eschatology forum. I hope that you understand that.

I am not suggesting any changes whatsoever with the current "Eschatology - endtimes and prophecy forum"

 

[Douggg]

That's not what I meant ... but EXCELLENT idea.

Yeah, maybe we should use the Spirit Filled format for that with tags and all.
I really like the way it is set up there.

You guys are not addressing the problem(s). Why not just leave the current Eschatology forum alone.

And give us futurists a completely detached forum.

The fundamental problem is that you allow partial preterists to post in a Eschatology forum at all that says "endtimes and prophecy" forum because the two concepts "entimes and prophecy" versus "preterism" are opposed to each other. But it is unlikely that you are going to change from allowing partial preterist to post there.

Given that, then please give us futurists a completely detached forum - that we would not even click on the current Eschatology - end times and prophecy forum.

 

[Edial]

Edial, my suggestion for a "Futurist Only Eschatological Forum" is for a new forum that is completely detached from the current Eschatology forum. I hope that you understand that.

I am not suggesting any changes whatsoever with the current "Eschatology - endtimes and prophecy forum"

Yes, I understand that.
Futurist pre-mil forum that would have tags for pre- post- mid- trib or any other flavor you would like.

This is what you mean, correct?

 

[Edial]

I agree we need a futurist only forum.

Yes.
Futurists are miles apart from other views.
To mix them up makes no sense.

 

[Edial]

Not that simple. Preterists are part of the problem.

I have made countless posts on several boards across the internet arguing against the Mulsim Antichrist view and the Office of Pope Antichrist view - themselves both futurist views - which is like communicating to a brick wall for the most part, a lot of energy time and effort expended and no fruit.

So for me, I want to be able to just leave them to their own devices, and still get the points of my posts out. Which a futurist only forum - with a "The Antichrist comes out of Europe" safehouse, would be most beneficial.

I suggested the other two safehouses, in consideration of the other two major futurists views held - albeit I personally oppose each of those - to accommodate the widest number of posters.

Of course a General Discussion area would allow for cross examination of all futurist views, of them wanting to go through all that.

The other forum - the current "Eschatology" forum, I am willing to cede to the preterists.

I see you are not even mentioning pre- post- mid- trib views as safe houses? Isn't this the most prevalent division within the futurists?

 

[Douggg]

Yes, I understand that.
Futurist pre-mil forum that would have tags for pre- post- mid- trib or any other flavor you would like.

This is what you mean, correct?

No. That is not what I mean. I would not want to see tags sub-dividing the new proposed forum. A General Discussion area is all that is needed.

You currently have safehouses in the present Eschatology - endtimes and prophecy forum. If anyone needs a safe house for the pre, post, mid-trib view the current forum provides that place, they can go there.

I am talking about a new "Futurist only Eschatology Forum" completely detached from the current "Eschatology - endtimes and prophecy Forum".

Within the new proposed "Futurist only Eschatology Forum" have two safe houses (initially), one for the EU Antichrist view, and another for the Muslim Antichrist view. And a General Discussion area where most of the posts are going to be made.

To persons who study the end times intensely, there are two main camps, them who believe the Antichrist will come out of Europe, and them who believe the Antichrist will be a Muslim.

If you listen to any number of popular major bible prophecy commentators, those are the two camps expressed. Which is why I propose those two safehouses in the new proposed forum. Maybe start out with no safehouses - and see how it goes.

Of course there are the different rapture views that would become topics in the new forum because it is something that people just want to discuss, but initially I don't picture safe rapture view houses in the new proposed forum as necessary.

 

[Douggg]

I see you are not even mentioning pre- post- mid- trib views as safe houses? Isn't this the most prevalent division within the futurists?

It is a division for sure. But end times bible prophecy is not a scenario about one rapture view versus the other.

If you think of end times bible prophecy discussion and study as a start-to-finish scenario of what is coming upon the world , the individual topics of like "who are the 144,000?", "what is the mark of the beast?", "who are the two witnesses?", 'who is the Antichrist?" etc. that people start threads on, are portions of the overall scenario that is going to take place.

The objective is too take all of the portions and understand them so everything fits together, and give a start-to-finish picture. Which generically is called the futurist view.

The various rapture views - which people tend to be very opinionated on whichever one they embrace is certainly a division - but it is not the central theme of end times bible prophecy. Although it can certainly take over a forum.

I would not be opposed to structuring the new proposed forum into a Rapture views area and a General Discussion area, if you want to do something like that. It might be a good idea.