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Why do you believe this? What have you read or experienced that lead you to this conclusion? Is there a chance that your sources are incorrect? Have you read or experienced opposing viewpoints? If so, why did you reject them?This natural world came out of the spiritual world. First there was the spirit, then natural.
From WikiPedia: "Physical chemistry is the study of the physical basis of chemical systems and processes. Modern physical chemistry is firmly grounded upon physics. Important areas of study include chemical thermodynamics, chemical kinetics, quantum chemistry, statistical mechanics, electrochemistry, surface and solid state chemistry, and spectroscopy."I'm coming straight from the Bible. The Bible can be used as evidence to the past. In fact, Dr. Donald Chittick a physical chemist stated that archeologists use the information that are written on walls when they go out excavating.
sorry but God speaking and it appearing demonstrates God's power far better than waiting millions of years for all to form.
i can hear the complaints now- 'if God is so powerful why didn;t He just use that power and do it instantly?'
you don't see it and you never will until you let go of following the world.
How true. It's too bad God wasn't powerful enough to make things instantly and had to take 6 days. It would've been much more impressive had he been able to pull THAT off.
Good for him. Now, this thread has gone so off topic now I'm not sure how to continue questioning. Hmmm... ok. You state that "This natural world came out of the spiritual world. First there was the spirit, then natural." I assume this is one of the reasons you believe in Creationism. Let me ask you, why can't evolution have come from the spirit world as you call it i.e. set in motion by god? Is it only because of the bible's Genesis account that you believe Creationism?That is your opinion. Anyways Dr. Chittick does have interests in dinosaurs and other related fields and he knows a lot of credited scientists that help him. He also has patents on some alternate fuels.
Dang! This natural world came out of the spiritual world. First there was the spirit, then natural.
How true. It's too bad God wasn't powerful enough to make things instantly and had to take 6 days. It would've been much more impressive had he been able to pull THAT off.
To assume that God would find it necessary to leave a detailed account of how he created the universe, so much so that we can discount scientific discovery because the account He DID leave doesn't mention it, is erroneous
WHY IS TELLING STORIES A LIE!
if it is not true, it is a lie. God would not have genesis 1 an allegory because He would be charged with mis-representation and other sinful acts. then He wouldn't be God.
except you omit God's reasons why he took 6 days. sure he could have done it in an instant but that , like your evolutionary scheme, dis not fit the plan that God had.
if you are going to investigate origins then you have to examine all the data not just physicalevidence for there are factors when studied, tells us how the evidence should be interpretated.
how convenient for evolutionists who skip that part of the process and claim they are honest and objective when in reality they are manipulating the results.
please cite a verse that tells us to follow science over God and faith.
f it is not true, it is a lie. God would not have genesis 1 an allegory because He would be charged with mis-representation and other sinful acts. then He wouldn't be God.
I don't think any Christian would disagree with that, but it fits just as well with evolution as with creationism.
Evolution does not necessitate a philosophy of materialism.
All four limbs are gone, tons of straw strewn across that floor. You've beaten that guy as much as you can, dude
You accept that, but you don't accept that God might have had His reasons for not presenting a detailed or literally accurate view of creation. Smacks of contradiction to me.
And if physical evidence screams that a Bible verse cannot be literally true
How convenient for creationists to avoid tons of physical evidence and claim they are honest and objective while ignoring and altering evidence to manipulate the results.
Jesus told stories that weren't true. He was a liar? By your own admission, he is not God. Sounds heretical to me.
not at all. your failure to ground your beliefs in God's word just proves you don not have a spiritual leg to stand on and without God's foundation, you have nothing.
wrong again, i don't accept secular man's idea and God's account is accurate or he would be lying. He spoke and it was. can't be more accurate than that.
you assume that science is infallible and incorruptible and that the Bible is fallible and corruptible. wrong on both counts. science is subject tothe fall of man and is fallible, coruptible and so on while the Bible is the Words of God and fallibility attributed to the Bible makes God not God and destroys the message of the Bible.
the Bible is right and the physical evidence is wrong or interpretated wrongly.
we discern and know what is of God and what isn't, and we take into account the evil influences which deceive. no,we aren't ignoring we just aren't blindly accepting secular science's fairy tales of evidence.
figures you would go to the extreme and mis-represent what i was saying.
That seems like a very simplistic way of looking at things.
If you don't want to face the consequences of your beliefs, then so be it. You hold contradictory views and want to make us believe that it is possible.
your failure to ground your beliefs in God's word just proves you do not have a spiritual leg to stand on and without God's foundation, you have nothing
The ONLY reason you think the Bible must not really be implying that the sun revolves around the earth is because you KNOW it isn't true - yet, if you ignore the "scientific" evidence we have via telescopes and observation and ONLY rely on the bible, you cannot possibly come to that conclusion. Same thing for a spherical earth. Left to just the bible to judge, you could not think that.
don't accept secular man's idea
the Bible is right and the physical evidence is wrong or interpretated wrongly.
If you truly trusted in God, you would be open to whatever God revealed about those passages, and would have no problem seeing them differently if He led you that way. As it is, you only trust what you're able to comprehend about God's message, and your faith states that He wouldn't work any other way. THIS IS LIMITING GOD.
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