• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
  • We hope the site problems here are now solved, however, if you still have any issues, please start a ticket in Contact Us

frustrating

Nicci

Active Member
Sep 10, 2003
173
2
42
Alabama
✟321.00
Faith
Non-Denom
I'm involved with an athiest. I love him with all my heart, but it's harder than I thought. He's the intellectual; I'm sure a lot of people here are familiar with the type. If it's not written in a physics book, it ain't true. He's getting his masters in engineering in May, and I am very proud of him. He's accomplished a lot, but he doesn't have God. He told me once that if God is real he needs to physically show himself to each and every person on earth so that we can have proof of his existance. To me, that seems very arrogant. I wasn't sure what to say when he told me that. I'm fairly new to the faith myself, and I guess I haven't quite gotten the hang of witnessing yet. I'm thankful we have a place to discuss our relationships...I never realized how tricky being unevenly-yoked was 'til I got saved.
 

Tangnefedd

A Liberal Christian
Feb 10, 2004
3,555
26
76
✟33,900.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
My husband is an atheist, he is extremely intelligent (mensa level) with four degrees, including a PH.D. You can never win an argument about the existence of God with him because he can come up with so many persuasive reasons why there is no God, it is frustrating!
 
Upvote 0

Echoes Peak

Willing Servant
Nov 4, 2003
1,025
39
46
✟23,900.00
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Private
Nicci said:
I'm involved with an athiest. I love him with all my heart, but it's harder than I thought. He's the intellectual; I'm sure a lot of people here are familiar with the type. If it's not written in a physics book, it ain't true. He's getting his masters in engineering in May, and I am very proud of him. He's accomplished a lot, but he doesn't have God. He told me once that if God is real he needs to physically show himself to each and every person on earth so that we can have proof of his existance. To me, that seems very arrogant. I wasn't sure what to say when he told me that. I'm fairly new to the faith myself, and I guess I haven't quite gotten the hang of witnessing yet. I'm thankful we have a place to discuss our relationships...I never realized how tricky being unevenly-yoked was 'til I got saved.

:hug:

I'm not sure what you mean by "involved" i.e. married or not. However, I would say that it is indeed a difficult when someone you care about does not share the faith that you belief in. I would say this, at this point and time, you can really only pray for him. Clearly, there is a reason you are serving, whether you are aware or not, for being in his life. It is quite possible that God is already using you to expose Himself to him. So it may just be you already "witnessing." Your life can already be a living testimony to His existence. If you are not married to him, you may want to take a step back and reflect on things for awhile. This is indeed a hard situation to overcome and you may want to re-consider getting further involved with this person.
 
Upvote 0

Blessed75

Well-Known Member
Jun 24, 2003
4,223
118
✟5,134.00
Faith
Non-Denom
Nicci said:
I'm involved with an athiest. I love him with all my heart, but it's harder than I thought. He's the intellectual; I'm sure a lot of people here are familiar with the type. If it's not written in a physics book, it ain't true. He's getting his masters in engineering in May, and I am very proud of him. He's accomplished a lot, but he doesn't have God. He told me once that if God is real he needs to physically show himself to each and every person on earth so that we can have proof of his existance. To me, that seems very arrogant. I wasn't sure what to say when he told me that. I'm fairly new to the faith myself, and I guess I haven't quite gotten the hang of witnessing yet. I'm thankful we have a place to discuss our relationships...I never realized how tricky being unevenly-yoked was 'til I got saved.
I feel your pain and your frustration. I guess I just feel that if a man is not Christ centered then he is a selfish man. I have 2 children and the fact that my husband cannot even pray over his own children just tears me up. I made a huge mistake marrying him. We are in counseling but I doubt the marriage will work. I strongly believe it's b/c we're un-equally yolked. It's frustrating, it's draining and it can really play on your spiritual beliefs. I am battling this right now and I know that God is dealing with me strongly on this issue. I used to have hope for my husband that one day, he would believe - that hope is gone and God has revealed things to me that I didn't want to see. I know now that it is only a matter of time. I guess all I can say is pray on the matter and go with what God tells you to do. I know what God is showing me and it's only a matter of time before divorce is inevitable. It's tough - however, what works for one, may not work for another. I know no matter what anyone else says, I have to go with what I feel the Holy Spirit is telling me..........May God bless you and guide you through this........:hug:
 
Upvote 0

Christi

Well-Known Member
Mar 28, 2002
2,548
219
Visit site
✟4,038.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Blessed75 said:
I feel your pain and your frustration. I guess I just feel that if a man is not Christ centered then he is a selfish man. I have 2 children and the fact that my husband cannot even pray over his own children just tears me up. I made a huge mistake marrying him. We are in counseling but I doubt the marriage will work. I strongly believe it's b/c we're un-equally yolked. It's frustrating, it's draining and it can really play on your spiritual beliefs. I am battling this right now and I know that God is dealing with me strongly on this issue. I used to have hope for my husband that one day, he would believe - that hope is gone and God has revealed things to me that I didn't want to see. I know now that it is only a matter of time. I guess all I can say is pray on the matter and go with what God tells you to do. I know what God is showing me and it's only a matter of time before divorce is inevitable. It's tough - however, what works for one, may not work for another. I know no matter what anyone else says, I have to go with what I feel the Holy Spirit is telling me..........May God bless you and guide you through this........:hug:
I had no idea, Blessed. :cry: Your support of me during this time, now means so much more. Thank you. I feel sorry for taking now, when I should have been giving before. My prayers are with you and your husband.
 
Upvote 0

Mϋzikdϋde

Simply Fabulous
Sep 19, 2002
3,970
258
62
Colorado Springs
Visit site
✟35,525.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Nicci said:
I'm involved with an athiest. I love him with all my heart, but it's harder than I thought. He's the intellectual; I'm sure a lot of people here are familiar with the type. If it's not written in a physics book, it ain't true. He's getting his masters in engineering in May, and I am very proud of him. He's accomplished a lot, but he doesn't have God. He told me once that if God is real he needs to physically show himself to each and every person on earth so that we can have proof of his existance. To me, that seems very arrogant. I wasn't sure what to say when he told me that. I'm fairly new to the faith myself, and I guess I haven't quite gotten the hang of witnessing yet. I'm thankful we have a place to discuss our relationships...I never realized how tricky being unevenly-yoked was 'til I got saved.
Not exactly an overwhelming response to a somewhat common issue. Hmmm. I wish I would have seen this post sooner, the only reason I even saw it now is because I troll all my friends :p

Anyway, he sounds like me. I joined the Mensa society in the 80's and I was a math major in college. So I thought I was most intelligent person I knew which actually made me the most ignorant.
No one ever pushed Christianity on me. My wife was saved before me and she witnessed to me everyday. Not with words, but with how she lived her life. Whenever bad things would happen that were out of our control I would wig out but she would just look at me and say "leave it alone, everything will be ok" I thought she was nuts, but she was always right. Eventually, when God felt I was ready, she handed me a book about salvation and asked me to read it. The book layed around the house for awhile but one Saturday I got bored and started to skim through it. Basically, it was the revelation in novel form, (like a one book version of left behind)
I accepted Christ that night.
I guess what I'm saying is this: Don't force it on him. Don't want it so bad that you push him away for good. Let God do it and you do what God leads you to do...no more...no less. The difficult part is not opening his eyes to God, it's being patient enough to wait on God. There is nothing you can say to an intellectual to change their mind about faith. Only God can soften their heart and He may or may not use you in that process, just be open to that fact.
I'm rambling now. I just can't stress enough how damaging it is to push faith. No one wants to do something if it's forced on them. It needs to be his choice.
I just read through this and realized that I've basically told you nothing. Sorry to waste the space.
I'll just pray for you, how about that?
 
Upvote 0
W

WashedClean

Guest
muzikdude said:
Not exactly an overwhelming response to a somewhat common issue. Hmmm. I wish I would have seen this post sooner, the only reason I even saw it now is because I troll all my friends :p

Anyway, he sounds like me. I joined the Mensa society in the 80's and I was a math major in college. So I thought I was most intelligent person I knew which actually made me the most ignorant.
No one ever pushed Christianity on me. My wife was saved before me and she witnessed to me everyday. Not with words, but with how she lived her life. Whenever bad things would happen that were out of our control I would wig out but she would just look at me and say "leave it alone, everything will be ok" I thought she was nuts, but she was always right. Eventually, when God felt I was ready, she handed me a book about salvation and asked me to read it. The book layed around the house for awhile but one Saturday I got bored and started to skim through it. Basically, it was the revelation in novel form, (like a one book version of left behind)
I accepted Christ that night.
I guess what I'm saying is this: Don't force it on him. Don't want it so bad that you push him away for good. Let God do it and you do what God leads you to do...no more...no less. The difficult part is not opening his eyes to God, it's being patient enough to wait on God. There is nothing you can say to an intellectual to change their mind about faith. Only God can soften their heart and He may or may not use you in that process, just be open to that fact.
I'm rambling now. I just can't stress enough how damaging it is to push faith. No one wants to do something if it's forced on them. It needs to be his choice.
I just read through this and realized that I've basically told you nothing. Sorry to waste the space.
I'll just pray for you, how about that?
Muzikdude,

That was a wonderful post. Don't say you wasted space! You spoke directly to my heart and gave me hope, even if you were talking to someone else. Thank you!:clap:

Love in Christ,

WashedClean

P.S. Where were you 3 years ago when I was pushing all this "faith" on my hubby??? LOL :D
 
Upvote 0

FaithfulServant

The Lord directs my steps
Apr 10, 2004
1,403
133
40
Texas, the best state :)
✟2,235.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Oh, and if he is one of those people who says "If God was real, he would move that chair".... then tell him "Nonbelievers say Show me God and I will believe in him. Believers answer Believe in God and he will show himself to you"
 
Upvote 0

Tenorvoice

Give me Liberty ...Or a pie in the face
Feb 10, 2004
4,752
260
49
Way down yonder in the paw paw patch
✟37,387.00
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
In Relationship
I do not know if you recive AFR (american family radio) in your area but if you do I would reccomend listening to Dr. Frank Harber - http://www.gotlifeministries.com/

I think that He may be able to help you out some being that He was an athiest a number of years ago himself and now is a pastor of a church in Texas. (his show right now is relating the evidence for God in the courtroom setting really cool to hear)

peace
 
Upvote 0

Blessed75

Well-Known Member
Jun 24, 2003
4,223
118
✟5,134.00
Faith
Non-Denom
Christi said:
I had no idea, Blessed. :cry: Your support of me during this time, now means so much more. Thank you. I feel sorry for taking now, when I should have been giving before. My prayers are with you and your husband.
:o I'm just now seeing this! Don't be sorry hon! We all have problems. My problems are no bigger than yours. That's why God put us in each other's lives - to help one another and to pray for one another. You know I'm always here for ya! ALWAYS! :hug: :hug: :hug:
 
Upvote 0

Blessed75

Well-Known Member
Jun 24, 2003
4,223
118
✟5,134.00
Faith
Non-Denom
muzikdude said:
Not exactly an overwhelming response to a somewhat common issue. Hmmm. I wish I would have seen this post sooner, the only reason I even saw it now is because I troll all my friends :p

Anyway, he sounds like me. I joined the Mensa society in the 80's and I was a math major in college. So I thought I was most intelligent person I knew which actually made me the most ignorant.
No one ever pushed Christianity on me. My wife was saved before me and she witnessed to me everyday. Not with words, but with how she lived her life. Whenever bad things would happen that were out of our control I would wig out but she would just look at me and say "leave it alone, everything will be ok" I thought she was nuts, but she was always right. Eventually, when God felt I was ready, she handed me a book about salvation and asked me to read it. The book layed around the house for awhile but one Saturday I got bored and started to skim through it. Basically, it was the revelation in novel form, (like a one book version of left behind)
I accepted Christ that night.
I guess what I'm saying is this: Don't force it on him. Don't want it so bad that you push him away for good. Let God do it and you do what God leads you to do...no more...no less. The difficult part is not opening his eyes to God, it's being patient enough to wait on God. There is nothing you can say to an intellectual to change their mind about faith. Only God can soften their heart and He may or may not use you in that process, just be open to that fact.
I'm rambling now. I just can't stress enough how damaging it is to push faith. No one wants to do something if it's forced on them. It needs to be his choice.
I just read through this and realized that I've basically told you nothing. Sorry to waste the space.
I'll just pray for you, how about that?
Wonderful testimony John - wonderful! Thank you for posting this. :hug:
 
Upvote 0