From what law did Paul set us free?

[guevaraj]

Brothers and Sisters, Paul assumes the listener knows what is written elsewhere and uses summary words like "the law" where the word has already been expanded elsewhere. When Paul uses the word law, unqualified, he is referring to the law of Judaism Jesus has freed us from as accepted in the Jerusalem council expressed by James. The Jerusalem council did not abandon Moses and everything that came before Moses when it provided a seed list to add to, allowing the adoption of Moses and everything before Moses by the gentiles who were turning to God free of the added human traditions of Judaism that Jesus was against in the following passage.

“What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you shut the door of the Kingdom of Heaven in people’s faces. You won’t go in yourselves, and you don’t let others enter either. “What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you cross land and sea to make one convert, and then you turn that person into twice the child of hell you yourselves are! “Blind guides! What sorrow awaits you! For you say that it means nothing to swear ‘by God’s Temple,’ but that it is binding to swear ‘by the gold in the Temple.’ Blind fools! Which is more important—the gold or the Temple that makes the gold sacred? And you say that to swear ‘by the altar’ is not binding, but to swear ‘by the gifts on the altar’ is binding. How blind! For which is more important—the gift on the altar or the altar that makes the gift sacred? When you swear ‘by the altar,’ you are swearing by it and by everything on it. And when you swear ‘by the Temple,’ you are swearing by it and by God, who lives in it. And when you swear ‘by heaven,’ you are swearing by the throne of God and by God, who sits on the throne. (Matthew 23:13-22 NLT)​

James was not limiting what we need to obey, he was giving us permission to adopt Moses without forcing the human traditions of Judaism on us Gentiles, as we turn to God by giving us a seed, a beginning to add to. James saw us as the fulfillment of the prophecy where God would "restore the fallen house of David" as we listened to Moses every Sabbath. What that means is the equivalent of continuing Judaism without human traditions. The human traditions in Judaism led to death by sabotaging God's Ten Commandments so as not to take away sin that would otherwise have been taken away if they had done what God asked, instead of replacing what God asked with their own rules, in their "human effort" to help them obey the law by sabotaging the law so as not to take away sin, which made the law easier to bear. For example, in order not to use God's name in vain, Judaism added the human rule not to pronounce God's name to help obey God's law by preventing them from having to learn not to misuse His name. Judaism managed to bypass the active part of taking away their sin by replacing God's law with their own rule not to utter God's name at all.

When they had finished, James stood and said, “Brothers, listen to me. Peter has told you about the time God first visited the Gentiles to take from them a people for himself. And this conversion of Gentiles is exactly what the prophets predicted. As it is written: ‘Afterward I will return and restore the fallen house of David. I will rebuild its ruins and restore it, so that the rest of humanity might seek the LORD, including the Gentiles—all those I have called to be mine. The LORD has spoken—he who made these things known so long ago.’ “And so my judgment is that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. Instead, we should write and tell them to abstain from eating food offered to idols, from sexual immorality, from eating the meat of strangled animals, and from consuming blood. For these laws of Moses has been preached in Jewish synagogues in every city on every Sabbath for many generations.” (Acts 15:13-21 NLT fixed)​

Paul is against the "human effort" in Judaism, as in the story of Hagar, to sabotage the law of God to not remove sin, sin that the law of God is meant to remove. For example, Judaism obeyed not to misuse God's name by not pronouncing His name at all, when their human rule stops the purpose of God's Commandment to separate the sin of misusing His name from our character thanks to the practice gained by the cycle of forgiveness made clear in the animal sacrifices. God's Commandment is meant to separate that sin from our character, that Judaism prevented with their rule that leads to death, because they are preventing God's laws from separating sin from our character.

Well then, since God’s grace has set us free from the law (of Judaism), does that mean we can go on sinning (lawlessness)? Of course not (don't misunderstand God's grace)! Don’t you realize that you become the slave of whatever you choose to obey (sin or God)? You can be a slave to sin (lawlessness), which leads to death (like Judaism's example of sabotaging God's Ten Commandments to not remove sin), or you can choose to obey God (Eleven Commandments), which leads to righteous living (freedom from sin). Thank God (Jesus's many forgivenesses as our High Priest allowing us to grow in obedience through practice of the Eleven Commandments)! Once you were slaves of sin (lawlessness), but now you wholeheartedly obey this teaching we have given you (Eleven Commandments). Now you are free from your slavery to sin (when you obey God's Eleven Commandments), and you have become slaves to righteous living (obeying the Eleven Commandments). (Romans 6:15-18 NLT)​

The sabotage of God's law found in Judaism, like the sabotage in the "human effort" in the story of Hagar, is expressed in the following passage.

Tell me, you who want to live under the law (the rules of Judaism that does not remove sin), do you know what the law actually says? (The law says what is sin) The Scriptures say that Abraham had two sons, one from his slave wife and one from his freeborn wife. The son of the slave wife was born in a human attempt to bring about the fulfillment of God’s promise (the promise to remove sin from our character). But the son of the freeborn wife was born as God’s own fulfillment of his promise. These two women serve as an illustration of God’s two covenants. The first woman, Hagar, represents Mount Sinai where people received the law that enslaved them (Judaism is enslaved in sin because they sabotaged God's law to not remove sin). And now Jerusalem is just like Mount Sinai in Arabia, because she and her children live in slavery (slavery to sin) to the law (added by the translators, not found in the original). But the other woman, Sarah, represents the heavenly Jerusalem. She is the free woman (free from sin), and she is our mother. As Isaiah said, “Rejoice, O childless woman, you who have never given birth! Break into a joyful shout, you who have never been in labor! For the desolate woman now has more children than the woman who lives with her husband!” And you, dear brothers and sisters, are children of the promise (the promise to remove sin from our character), just like Isaac. But you are now being persecuted by those who want you to keep the law (the rules of Judaism that does not remove sin), just as Ishmael, the child born by human effort, persecuted Isaac, the child born by the power of the Spirit. But what do the Scriptures say about that? “Get rid of the slave and her son, for the son of the slave woman will not share the inheritance with the free woman’s son.” So, dear brothers and sisters, we are not children of the slave woman; we are children of the free woman. (Galatians 4:21-31 NLT fixed)​

Hagar's son to Abraham came from the human will and not from God's will to give Abraham a son through Hagar. Hagar is not the will of God expressed on Mount Sinai but the "human attempt" to fulfill the will of God expressed on Mount Sinai. Therefore, it is not God's laws that are tied to Hagar, but human rules found in Judaism that come from sinful "blind guides" to use laws to accomplish God's will expressed on Mount Sinai, that Jesus says in the following passage: "shut the door of the Kingdom of heaven in people's faces". It is not God's laws expressed on Mount Sinai that "shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people's faces", it is Judaism's human replacement rules for God's laws that "shut the door of the Kingdom of heaven in people's faces".

“What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you shut the door of the Kingdom of Heaven in people’s faces. You won’t go in yourselves, and you don’t let others enter either. “What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you cross land and sea to make one convert, and then you turn that person into twice the child of hell you yourselves are! “Blind guides! What sorrow awaits you! For you say that it means nothing to swear ‘by God’s Temple,’ but that it is binding to swear ‘by the gold in the Temple.’ Blind fools! Which is more important—the gold or the Temple that makes the gold sacred? And you say that to swear ‘by the altar’ is not binding, but to swear ‘by the gifts on the altar’ is binding. How blind! For which is more important—the gift on the altar or the altar that makes the gift sacred? When you swear ‘by the altar,’ you are swearing by it and by everything on it. And when you swear ‘by the Temple,’ you are swearing by it and by God, who lives in it. And when you swear ‘by heaven,’ you are swearing by the throne of God and by God, who sits on the throne. (Matthew 23:13-22 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[guevaraj]

Brothers and Sisters, in brief! The "grace" of Jesus as our High Priest is what allows one to grow through practice to obey God's law, which Judaism sabotaged so as not to take away sin. The cycle in which God forgives past sins was made clear in the stand-in "copy" with animal sacrifices of the true temple in heaven. Jesus has freed us from Judaism's slavery to sin which leads to death by sabotaging God's law, as in the Hagar story. The earthly stand-in "copy" of the true heavenly temple allows us to pray daily to our High Priest Jesus to forgive us as many times as we need. Allowing us to get up again and again from the depth of sin: like a child who learns to walk by getting up again and again until he no longer falls. The law alone does not allow someone who has strayed from the path of God to come near if it were not for the cycle of forgiveness of our High Priest Jesus, allowing obedience through the practice that Paul calls "slavery" to righteous living.

Well then, since God’s grace has set us free from the law (of Judaism), does that mean we can go on sinning (lawlessness)? Of course not (don't misunderstand God's grace)! Don’t you realize that you become the slave of whatever you choose to obey (sin or God)? You can be a slave to sin (lawlessness), which leads to death (like Judaism's example of sabotaging God's Ten Commandments to not remove sin), or you can choose to obey God (Eleven Commandments), which leads to righteous living (freedom from sin). Thank God (Jesus's many forgivenesses as our High Priest allowing us to grow in obedience through practice of the Eleven Commandments)! Once you were slaves of sin (lawlessness), but now you wholeheartedly obey this teaching we have given you (Eleven Commandments). Now you are free from your slavery to sin (when you obey God's Eleven Commandments), and you have become slaves to righteous living (obeying the Eleven Commandments). (Romans 6:15-18 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[Clare73]

God set us free from the Levitical laws of God; i.e., sacrifices, food laws, cleansings, observances, feasts, etc.

 

[guevaraj]

God set us free from the Levitical laws of God; i.e., sacrifices, food laws, cleansings, observances, feasts, etc.

Sister, the cycle continues of so many daily forgivenesses with the animal sacrifices to separate sin from our character through practice, where the temporary shadows that pointed to the coming of Jesus are replaced by the eternal reality of daily prayer to our High Priest Jesus in the true heavenly temple. Many mistakenly conclude that Jesus accomplished everything on the cross to make the following passage go away because they want to make the Ten Commandments go away, especially the Sabbath Commandment.

“Don’t misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose (the purpose of the Ten Commandments is to separate sin from our character). I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear (when God makes everything new), not even the smallest detail of God’s law will disappear until its purpose is achieved (to separate sin from our character). So if you ignore the least commandment (the Sabbath) and teach others to do the same, you will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But anyone who obeys God’s laws and teaches them will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven. “But I warn you—unless your righteousness is better (Eleven Commandments) than the righteousness of the teachers of religious law and the Pharisees (Ten Commandments), you will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven! (Matthew 5:17-20 NLT)​

Jesus has not achieved everything the prophets said of Him and therefore the Ten Commandments remain as Jesus tells us above. The reason why Judaism does not accept Jesus is because Jesus has yet to hit the statue of Nebuchadnezzar: the rock that will destroy all earlier kingdoms and establish a kingdom that will "never" end. Jesus will accomplish this writing of the prophets when He returns for those who will take part in the first resurrection. Paul's brevity in speaking of the law, without qualifying it, is misunderstood to take away the law of God when He has taken away the law of Judaism which sabotaged the purpose of God's law to not separate sin from our character, which leads to death.

In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever. This is the meaning of the vision of the rock cut out of a mountain, but not by human hands-- a rock that broke the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver and the gold to pieces. (Daniel 2:44-45a NIV)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[Clare73]

Sister, the cycle continues of so many daily forgivenesses with the animal sacrifices to separate sin from our character through practice,

Jesus abolished the Levitical laws of bloody animal sacrifice on the cross (Eph 3:15).

where the temporary shadows that pointed to the coming of Jesus are replaced by the eternal reality of daily prayer to our High Priest Jesus in the true heavenly temple. Many mistakenly conclude that Jesus accomplished everything on the cross to make the following passage go away because they want to make the Ten Commandments go away, especially the Sabbath Commandment.

“Don’t misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose (the purpose of the Ten Commandments is to separate sin from our character). I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear (when God makes everything new), not even the smallest detail of God’s law will disappear until its purpose is achieved (to separate sin from our character). So if you ignore the least commandment (the Sabbath) and teach others to do the same, you will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But anyone who obeys God’s laws and teaches them will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven. “But I warn you—unless your righteousness is better (Eleven Commandments) than the righteousness of the teachers of religious law and the Pharisees (Ten Commandments), you will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven! (Matthew 5:17-20 NLT)​

Jesus has not achieved everything the prophets said of Him and therefore the Ten Commandments remain as Jesus tells us above. The reason why Judaism does not accept Jesus is because Jesus has yet to hit the statue of Nebuchadnezzar: the rock that will destroy all earlier kingdoms and establish a kingdom that will "never" end. Jesus will accomplish this writing of the prophets when He returns for those who will take part in the first resurrection. Paul's brevity in speaking of the law, without qualifying it, is misunderstood to take away the law of God when He has taken away the law of Judaism which sabotaged the purpose of God's law to not separate sin from our character, which leads to death.

In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever. This is the meaning of the vision of the rock cut out of a mountain, but not by human hands-- a rock that broke the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver and the gold to pieces. (Daniel 2:44-45a NIV)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[guevaraj]

Jesus abolished the Levitical laws of bloody animal sacrifice on the cross (Eph 3:15).

Sister, Jesus continues the "daily" forgivenesses for past sins as our High Priest in the true heavenly temple, for which the earthly was a shadow, a temporary stand-in copy. Before the Father placed Jesus as our High Priest, you turned to the earthly temple with Human Priests and animal sacrifices to benefit from God's many forgivnesses. Since the Father placed Jesus as our High Priest to give many faster "daily" forgivenesses, now you pray for forgiveness, which takes place in the true heavenly temple where Jesus serves as our High Priest for the many "daily" forgivenesses mentioned in the following passage:

Pray like this: Our Father in heaven, may your name be kept holy. May your Kingdom come soon. May your will be done on earth, as it is in heaven. Give us today the food we need, and forgive us our sins, as we have forgiven those who sin against us. And don’t let us yield to temptation, but rescue us from the evil one. “If you forgive those who sin against you, your heavenly Father will forgive you. But if you refuse to forgive others, your Father will not forgive your sins. (Matthew 6:9-15 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[Clare73]

Sister, Jesus continues the "daily" forgivenesses

You are not addressing the Biblical fact that Jews was sacrificed once, for all. (Heb 9:27, Heb 10:10).

for past sins as our High Priest in the true heavenly temple, for which the earthly was a shadow, a temporary stand-in copy. Before the Father placed Jesus as our High Priest, you turned to the earthly temple with Human Priests and animal sacrifices to benefit from God's many forgivnesses. Since the Father placed Jesus as our High Priest to give many faster "daily" forgivenesses, now you pray for forgiveness, which takes place in the true heavenly temple where Jesus serves as our High Priest for the many "daily" forgivenesses mentioned in the following passage:

Pray like this: Our Father in heaven, may your name be kept holy. May your Kingdom come soon. May your will be done on earth, as it is in heaven. Give us today the food we need, and forgive us our sins, as we have forgiven those who sin against us. And don’t let us yield to temptation, but rescue us from the evil one. “If you forgive those who sin against you, your heavenly Father will forgive you. But if you refuse to forgive others, your Father will not forgive your sins. (Matthew 6:9-15 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[guevaraj]

You are not addressing the Biblical fact that Jews was sacrificed once, for all. (Heb 9:27, Heb 10:10).

Sister, the rebellion of our "fallen" mother church spoken of in the Bible remained uncorrected by most protestants until the fulfillment of the 2300-year prophesy in 1844 brought it to light again. He who goes to an earthly confessional booth to gain forgiveness for his sins is putting aside the worship due Jesus in heaven in the following passage. Jesus serves daily as our High Priest in the heavenly temple to forgive sins. This heavenly ministry was cast down to earth by the bishops of Rome with the confessional, who were also those who were the official state church of the Roman Empire who destroyed the temple in 70 AD. The word "sacrifices" crossed out after the word "daily", is not in the original and was added to the Septuagint Hebrew to Greek translation. The translators, thinking they were helping, when Jesus' "daily" forgivenesses do not cause Him to die over and over again, to forgive our past sins when we turn daily in prayer to Jesus for the forgiveness of our past sins, like the death of so many animal sacrifices in the stand-in earthly temple "copy" before Jesus' death. Jesus' single death validates all His forgivenesses prior and subsequent to His death in his daily service as our High Priest in the heavenly temple.

It even challenged the Commander of heaven’s army by canceling the daily sacrifices offered to him and by destroying his Temple. The army of heaven was restrained from responding to this rebellion. So the daily sacrifice was halted, and truth was overthrown. The horn succeeded in everything it did. Then I heard two holy ones talking to each other. One of them asked, “How long will the events of this vision last? How long will the rebellion that causes desecration stop the daily sacrifices? How long will the Temple and heaven’s army be trampled on?” (Daniel 8:11-13 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[Soyeong]

Brothers and Sisters, Paul assumes the listener knows what is written elsewhere and uses summary words like "the law" where the word has already been expanded elsewhere. When Paul uses the word law, unqualified, he is referring to the law of Judaism Jesus has freed us from as accepted in the Jerusalem council expressed by James.

The law of Judaism is the Law of Moses, which is the Law of God, so your poll makes a false dichotomy and it does not allow for people to vote who do not agree with either option. Paul spoke about many different categories of law other than the Law of God, such as in Romans 7:25, he contrasted the law of God with the law of sin, so there is no basis for assuming that Paul used the word "law" unqualified that he was referring to the Law of God, especially when it is contrary to the context of how he used the word and the content of what other verses say about the Law of God. Jesus taught how to practice Judaism by setting a sinless example of how to walk in obedience to the Mosaic Law and we are told to follow his example (1 Peter 2:21-22), so is no sense in thinking that Jesus freed us from following what he taught.

In Romans 6:1-14, Paul spoke against continuing to live in sin because we have died to it and that the old man was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin, for one who has died has been set free from sin, that we must consider ourselves dead to sin so that death no longer has dominion over us, that we should not let sin reign in our body to make us obey its passions, that we should not present ourselves to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present ourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and our ourselves to God as instruments for righteousness, for sin will have no dominion over us sine we are not under the law, so "the law" that Paul was clearly speaking about us not being under is the law of sin, not the Law of God that we have been raised in newness of life to obey as instruments of righteousness.

The Jerusalem council did not abandon Moses and everything that came before Moses when it provided a seed list to add to, allowing the adoption of Moses and everything before Moses by the gentiles who were turning to God free of the added human traditions of Judaism that Jesus was against in the following passage.

“What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you shut the door of the Kingdom of Heaven in people’s faces. You won’t go in yourselves, and you don’t let others enter either. “What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you cross land and sea to make one convert, and then you turn that person into twice the child of hell you yourselves are! “Blind guides! What sorrow awaits you! For you say that it means nothing to swear ‘by God’s Temple,’ but that it is binding to swear ‘by the gold in the Temple.’ Blind fools! Which is more important—the gold or the Temple that makes the gold sacred? And you say that to swear ‘by the altar’ is not binding, but to swear ‘by the gifts on the altar’ is binding. How blind! For which is more important—the gift on the altar or the altar that makes the gift sacred? When you swear ‘by the altar,’ you are swearing by it and by everything on it. And when you swear ‘by the Temple,’ you are swearing by it and by God, who lives in it. And when you swear ‘by heaven,’ you are swearing by the throne of God and by God, who sits on the throne. (Matthew 23:13-22 NLT)​

In Leviticus 19:12, it says not to swear falsely by God's name, which led some to think that they are free to swear falsely just as long as they swear by something other than God's name, which is what Jesus was criticizing them for doing in this passage and in Matthew 5:33-37. While Jesus criticized the Pharisees for their pride and their hypocrisy, he never criticized them for obeying God's law and never spoke against their authority. On the contrary, in Matthew 23:2-4, Jesus said that the Pharisees sit in the seat of Moses, so do whatever they say, but not as they do.

James was not limiting what we need to obey, he was giving us permission to adopt Moses without forcing the human traditions of Judaism on us Gentiles, as we turn to God by giving us a seed, a beginning to add to. James saw us as the fulfillment of the prophecy where God would "restore the fallen house of David" as we listened to Moses every Sabbath. What that means is the equivalent of continuing Judaism without human traditions. The human traditions in Judaism led to death by sabotaging God's Ten Commandments so as not to take away sin that would otherwise have been taken away if they had done what God asked, instead of replacing what God asked with their own rules, in their "human effort" to help them obey the law by sabotaging the law so as not to take away sin, which made the law easier to bear. For example, in order not to use God's name in vain, Judaism added the human rule not to pronounce God's name to help obey God's law by preventing them from having to learn not to misuse His name. Judaism managed to bypass the active part of taking away their sin by replacing God's law with their own rule not to utter God's name at all.

When a nation agrees to put the Law of Moses into practice there would questions that would naturally arise in regard to what exactly is the correct way to obey it, which is what Moses was being overwhelmed with in Exodus 18. For example, in Numbers 15:38, it instruct to put tassels on the corners of our garments with a thread of blue in each. So someone who wants to obey that command runs into the issue of things like how long the tassels should be, how they should be tied to our garments, what we should do if our garments don't have corners, what shade of blue should be used, what other colors should be used, what should be used to make the pigment, and so forth, so all of these sorts of things got left up to tradition and it would be impossible to follow the Mosaic Law without following traditions. In 1 Corinthians 11:2, 2 Thessalonians 2:15, and 2 Thessalonians 3:6, Paul spoke in favor of following Jewish traditions that he taught them, so there is nothing inherently wrong with following Jewish traditions.

Likewise, in Leviticus 19:23-25, it says that if they plant a tree in the land, then they should not eat its fruit for the first three years, the fourth it is holy, and the fifth they can eat, so what should be done if someone plants a tree on a hill and its fruit rolls down the hill and mixes with the fruit of a tree that was planted in a different year? Someone had to make a ruling and that precedent got passed down orally as case law. In Deuteronomy 17:8-13, it gives men the authority to make traditions and rulings about how to correctly obey God's law.

When they had finished, James stood and said, “Brothers, listen to me. Peter has told you about the time God first visited the Gentiles to take from them a people for himself. And this conversion of Gentiles is exactly what the prophets predicted. As it is written: ‘Afterward I will return and restore the fallen house of David. I will rebuild its ruins and restore it, so that the rest of humanity might seek the LORD, including the Gentiles—all those I have called to be mine. The LORD has spoken—he who made these things known so long ago.’ “And so my judgment is that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. Instead, we should write and tell them to abstain from eating food offered to idols, from sexual immorality, from eating the meat of strangled animals, and from consuming blood. For these laws of Moses has been preached in Jewish synagogues in every city on every Sabbath for many generations.” (Acts 15:13-21 NLT fixed)​

Moses preached the Law of Moses, so he can't be preached without preaching what he preached. Furthermore, if Acts 15:21 were not referring to preaching the Law of Moses, then there would be no point in making that statement in relation to verses 19-20.

Paul is against the "human effort" in Judaism, as in the story of Hagar, to sabotage the law of God to not remove sin, sin that the law of God is meant to remove. For example, Judaism obeyed not to misuse God's name by not pronouncing His name at all, when their human rule stops the purpose of God's Commandment to separate the sin of misusing His name from our character thanks to the practice gained by the cycle of forgiveness made clear in the animal sacrifices. God's Commandment is meant to separate that sin from our character, that Judaism prevented with their rule that leads to death, because they are preventing God's laws from separating sin from our character.

If someone is obediently relying on what God has instructed, then it is incorrect to think that they are relying on their own effort rather than relying on God.

Well then, since God’s grace has set us free from the law (of Judaism), does that mean we can go on sinning (lawlessness)? Of course not (don't misunderstand God's grace)! Don’t you realize that you become the slave of whatever you choose to obey (sin or God)? You can be a slave to sin (lawlessness), which leads to death (like Judaism's example of sabotaging God's Ten Commandments to not remove sin), or you can choose to obey God (Eleven Commandments), which leads to righteous living (freedom from sin). Thank God (Jesus's many forgivenesses as our High Priest allowing us to grow in obedience through practice of the Eleven Commandments)! Once you were slaves of sin (lawlessness), but now you wholeheartedly obey this teaching we have given you (Eleven Commandments). Now you are free from your slavery to sin (when you obey God's Eleven Commandments), and you have become slaves to righteous living (obeying the Eleven Commandments). (Romans 6:15-18 NLT)​

In Psalms 119:29, David wanted God to be gracious to him by teaching him to obey His law, an in Exodus 33:13, Moses wanted God to be gracious to him by teaching him His way that he might know Him and Israel too, so God is gracious to us by teaching us to obey the Law of Judaism, not by setting us free from it, which is why Paul said that those who are under grace are not free to sin by transgressing it. It is by God's law that we have knowledge of sin (Romans 3:20), so if we have been set free from it, then would have the freedom to sin by transgressing any of God's laws, not just eleven of them.

The sabotage of God's law found in Judaism, like the sabotage in the "human effort" in the story of Hagar, is expressed in the following passage.

Tell me, you who want to live under the law (the rules of Judaism that does not remove sin), do you know what the law actually says? (The law says what is sin) The Scriptures say that Abraham had two sons, one from his slave wife and one from his freeborn wife. The son of the slave wife was born in a human attempt to bring about the fulfillment of God’s promise (the promise to remove sin from our character). But the son of the freeborn wife was born as God’s own fulfillment of his promise. These two women serve as an illustration of God’s two covenants. The first woman, Hagar, represents Mount Sinai where people received the law that enslaved them (Judaism is enslaved in sin because they sabotaged God's law to not remove sin). And now Jerusalem is just like Mount Sinai in Arabia, because she and her children live in slavery (slavery to sin) to the law (added by the translators, not found in the original). But the other woman, Sarah, represents the heavenly Jerusalem. She is the free woman (free from sin), and she is our mother. As Isaiah said, “Rejoice, O childless woman, you who have never given birth! Break into a joyful shout, you who have never been in labor! For the desolate woman now has more children than the woman who lives with her husband!” And you, dear brothers and sisters, are children of the promise (the promise to remove sin from our character), just like Isaac. But you are now being persecuted by those who want you to keep the law (the rules of Judaism that does not remove sin), just as Ishmael, the child born by human effort, persecuted Isaac, the child born by the power of the Spirit. But what do the Scriptures say about that? “Get rid of the slave and her son, for the son of the slave woman will not share the inheritance with the free woman’s son.” So, dear brothers and sisters, we are not children of the slave woman; we are children of the free woman. (Galatians 4:21-31 NLT fixed)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[eleos1954]

Brothers and Sisters, in brief! The "grace" of Jesus as our High Priest is what allows one to grow through practice to obey God's law, which Judaism sabotaged so as not to take away sin. The cycle in which God forgives past sins was made clear in the stand-in "copy" with animal sacrifices of the true temple in heaven. Jesus has freed us from Judaism's slavery to sin which leads to death by sabotaging God's law, as in the Hagar story. The earthly stand-in "copy" of the true heavenly temple allows us to pray daily to our High Priest Jesus to forgive us as many times as we need. Allowing us to get up again and again from the depth of sin: like a child who learns to walk by getting up again and again until he no longer falls. The law alone does not allow someone who has strayed from the path of God to come near if it were not for the cycle of forgiveness of our High Priest Jesus, allowing obedience through the practice that Paul calls "slavery" to righteous living.

Well then, since God’s grace has set us free from the law (of Judaism), does that mean we can go on sinning (lawlessness)? Of course not (don't misunderstand God's grace)! Don’t you realize that you become the slave of whatever you choose to obey (sin or God)? You can be a slave to sin (lawlessness), which leads to death (like Judaism's example of sabotaging God's Ten Commandments to not remove sin), or you can choose to obey God (Eleven Commandments), which leads to righteous living (freedom from sin). Thank God (Jesus's many forgivenesses as our High Priest allowing us to grow in obedience through practice of the Eleven Commandments)! Once you were slaves of sin (lawlessness), but now you wholeheartedly obey this teaching we have given you (Eleven Commandments). Now you are free from your slavery to sin (when you obey God's Eleven Commandments), and you have become slaves to righteous living (obeying the Eleven Commandments). (Romans 6:15-18 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

Paul didn't set us free from any law.

 

[Clare73]

Sister, the rebellion of our "fallen" mother church spoken of in the Bible remained uncorrected by most protestants until the fulfillment of the 2300-year prophesy in 1844 brought it to light again. He who goes to an earthly confessional booth to gain forgiveness for his sins is putting aside the worship due Jesus in heaven in the following passage. Jesus serves daily as our High Priest in the heavenly temple to forgive sins. This heavenly ministry was cast down to earth by the bishops of Rome with the confessional, who were also those who were the official state church of the Roman Empire who destroyed the temple in 70 AD. The word "sacrifices" crossed out after the word "daily", is not in the original and was added to the Septuagint Hebrew to Greek translation. The translators, thinking they were helping, when Jesus' "daily" forgivenesses do not cause Him to die over and over again, to forgive our past sins when we turn daily in prayer to Jesus for the forgiveness of our past sins, like the death of so many animal sacrifices in the stand-in earthly temple "copy" before Jesus' death. Jesus' single death validates all His forgivenesses prior and subsequent to His death in his daily service as our High Priest in the heavenly temple.

It even challenged the Commander of heaven’s army by canceling the daily sacrifices offered to him and by destroying his Temple. The army of heaven was restrained from responding to this rebellion. So the daily sacrifice was halted, and truth was overthrown. The horn succeeded in everything it did. Then I heard two holy ones talking to each other. One of them asked, “How long will the events of this vision last? How long will the rebellion that causes desecration stop the daily sacrifices? How long will the Temple and heaven’s army be trampled on?” (Daniel 8:11-13 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

You do not address the NT apostolic teaching presented from the NT Scriptures, seemingly in favor of some personal interpretations of prophetic riddles not spoken clearly (Nu 12:8) and, therefore, able to be interpreted in more than one way, the only rule being one's interpretation of prophetic riddles must not contradict NT apostolic teaching, and which your interpretation is doing.

 

[Soyeong]

You do not address the NT apostolic teaching presented from the NT Scriptures, seemingly in favor of some personal interpretations of prophetic riddles not spoken clearly (Nu 12:8) and, therefore, able to be interpreted in more than one way, the only rule being one's interpretation of prophetic riddles must not contradict NT apostolic teaching, and which your interpretation is doing.

In Psalms 119:142, the Torah is truth and nothing in the Bible should be interpreted in a way that is contrary to following truth.

 

[Clare73]

In Psalms 119:142, the Torah is truth and nothing in the Bible should be interpreted in a way that is contrary to following truth.

Which is what much personal interpretation of prophetic riddles is doing in disagreeing with authoritative NT apostolic teaching.

 

[Soyeong]

Which is what much personal interpretation of prophetic riddles is doing in disagreeing with authoritative NT apostolic teaching.

Authoritative NT apostolic teach is in accordance with following the truth, whereas your interpretation is not.

 

[Clare73]

Authoritative NT apostolic teach is in accordance with following the truth, whereas your interpretation is not.

You have shown no disagreement with the NT in what I have posted.
For your assertion to have any Biblical merit, it must be Biblically demonstrated from the NT, which you have not done.
Otherwise, it's just an opinion. . .and we all know about opinions. . .they're like noses. . .everybody has one.

There is no spiritual truth other than the word of God written where NT truth is the fulfillment of OT truth,
for the OT is the NT concealed, while the NT is the OT revealed.

Anyone who denies that the Levitical laws have been fulfilled (atonement, cleansing, feasts, etc.) and set aside (abolished, Eph 2:15) denies the NT word of God and sets themselves against it.
That is to Judaize (Gal 2:14) Christianity, thereby making oneself a false brother (Gal 2:4).
Any "truth" not in agreement with authoritative NT apostolic teaching is not God's truth, it is simply man's truth masquerading as God's truth.

 

[Soyeong]

You have shown no disagreement with the NT in what I have posted.
You must Biblically demonstrate your assertion for your assertion to have any Biblical merit.
Otherwise, it's just an opinion. . .and we all know about opinions. . .they're like noses. . .everybody has one.

There is no spiritual truth other than the word of God written.
NT truth is the fulfillment of OT truth. . .the OT is the NT concealed, the NT is the OT revealed.
Any "truth" not in agreement with authoritative NT apostolic teaching is not God's truth, it is simply man's truth masquerading as God's truth.

If you you interpret the NT authors as being in opposition to following what Psalms 119:142 says is the truth, such as speaking against following the Levitical laws, then you have three options that I can see:

1.) You can have the self-awareness to recognize that your interpretation of the NT must be wrong because it is in opposition to truth.

2.) You can insist that your interpretation of the NT is correct and that the NT must therefore be rejected as being in opposition to truth.

3.) You can deny the validity of Psalms 119:142 saying that the Torah is truth and undermine the validity of the NT quoting the Psalms.

It is contradictory to uphold that the Torah is truth, that the NT is truth, and that the NT speaks against following truth, so that option is not available to you.

 

[Clare73]

If you you interpret the NT authors as being in opposition to following what Psalms 119:142 says is the truth, such as speaking against following the Levitical laws, then you have three options that I can see:

Contra-NT. . .non-responsive.

 

[Soyeong]

Contra-NT. . .

The NT authors considered the OT to be Scripture, so yes, your position is contra-OT and contra-NT.

 

[Clare73]

The NT authors considered the OT to be Scripture, so yes, your position is contra-OT and contra-NT.

Assertion without Biblical demonstration is assertion without Biblical merit.

So please Biblically demonstrate, in agreement with all the NT (e.g., Eph 2:15, Col 2:14),
that the cessation of the required observance in the NT of the
Levitical priesthood laws,
sacrificial laws,
food laws,
purification laws after childbirth and for abnormal bodily discharges,
cleansing ceremonies for cured skin diseases and cleansed houses,
Day of Atonement ceremonies, etc.
is contra-NT, as you assert.

 

[Ain't Zwinglian]

For your assertion to have any Biblical merit, it must be Biblically demonstrated from the NT, which you have not done.
Otherwise, it's just an opinion. . .and we all know about opinions. . .they're like noses. . .everybody has one.

Yes, that one was just delicious. Already copied and pasted that one for the archives!