From what did Jesus save us?

[Ben johnson]

The Book of Hebrews in general is addressed to genuine believers. See, for example, 3:1, "Therefore, holy brethren partakers of the heavenly calling. . ." See also 6:4-6.

How can you read Hebrews --- especially 6:4-6 --- and think that "these are GENUINE BELIEVERS but they can't REALLY FALL"?

The passage IS written to "genuine believers". Partners with the Holy Spirit. Have BEEN enlightened, have TASTED eternity. They were saved. But fall-ING away, it is "adunatos impossible/unable/impotent/POWERLESS" to restore them to repentance WHILE they are fallen and regard Jesus with contempt.

 

[Knee V]

God is love, God loves those in heaven and those in hell with the same love.

Which is why it's hell.

 

[Ben johnson]

Which is why it's hell.

I don't understand what you mean?

 

[Cappadocian]

I don't understand what you mean?

Orthodox Christianity teaches that God loves everyone now and forever and it is his very love that is experienced by those in hell who do not repent of their sin.

See http://aggreen.net/beliefs/heaven_hell.html

 

[RichWh1]

The wages of death is death. The gift of God is eternal life, through Jesus Christ Our Lord.

Jesus took our place on the cross and died in our place shedding His blood so we would not have to. Only a perfect sacrifice, Jesus, could atone for the sin of many and Jesus was a perfect, sinless sacrifice.

We who are in Christ are new creatures and the old has passed away and all has become new.

 

[Knee V]

I don't understand what you mean?

Take a lump of clay and a lump of butter and put them in the hot sun at noon. The clay will harden, and the butter will melt. It's the same exact sun, but because the two elements are radically different, there are two completely opposite effects. One hardens and turns to rock while the other softens and melts, turning into a puddle. But both effects are the direct results of being in the sun. Or for another example. Take some dry grass and some diamonds and put them right next to a hot fire. The dried grass will catch on fire and burn, while the diamonds will shine. Same fire, but the two differenet elements react differently.

Our eternal destiny is similar. Take two people, one who is in Christ, and another who hates God and all things pertaining to Him, and put both of them in God's presence. One will find God's presence to be perfect joy and bliss, while the other one will find His presence to nothing short of the worst possible misery. Same God and same presence, but different hearts respond differently. God's love makes eternity absolute Hell for His enemies.