From Roe-Bots to Inflatable IUD in DC: Pro-Abortion Scare Tactics Hit a New Low

[RileyG]

There are some, and she's one, who insist on turning everything even remotely linked to gender/sex into a discussion of gender identity "ideology". It is a sad state of affairs.

If it’s not an ideology, what do you call it then? How is it sad?

Edit: it’s clear now. Disregard.

 

[RileyG]

This thread is about abortion activists. It is not about gender identity or schools.

Oopps, I got off topic!

Forgive me.

 

[Chrystal-J]

Oopps, I got off topic!

Forgive me.

It has a gender affirming comment in the article. Carry on.

 

[RileyG]

It has a gender affirming comment in the article. Carry on.

I guess they are related since they go outside the norm of what God wants and intends.

 

[Chrystal-J]

I guess they are related since they go outside the norm of what God wants and intends.

Exactly!

 

[RileyG]

Exactly!

Messing with the unborn only leads sexual perversion. It’s no surprise.

The LGBT “community” is dripping with the blood of the unborn.

They should be ashamed.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Sorry, I’m not interested in your views or have this pro-abortion propaganda forced on me.

Have a nice evening

So you want to have an opinion and hear nothing other than validation of your opinion…? Odd move, but ok.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Like if a Muslim baker refuses to bake a gay-friendly cake because they take food stamps.

Bakers don’t take food stamps…

 

[RileyG]

So you want to have an opinion and hear nothing other than validation of your opinion…? Odd move, but ok.

It’s a religious hospital. People have no right to tell them how to function. If they think abortion or trans surgery is wrong, they have every right to deny it.

Move on.

 

[RileyG]

Bakers don’t take food stamps…

She’s simply pointing out its hypocritical to attack Christians for denying services for same sex “marriages” but still support a Muslim for doing the same.

You can’t have it both ways, sorry.

 

[Chrystal-J]

Bakers don’t take food stamps…

Maybe not where you live, but they do here. Guess you're not gonna answer the question.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

I figured that you wouldn't.

The main reason that it is inappropriate is because it invites children to discuss their own sexuality with the teacher.

That should not happen.

Weird line of thinking. When you say that you have an opposite gender spouse and somebody replies they also are married to a wonderful man/woman, does that lead to sexual discussions a lot? Because generally I say something that references my husband, or hear somebody say something that references their spouse, and they’re able to glean my sexuality and me theirs, and the conversation doesn’t result in some huge discussion about sex.

No, it is not at all. I never knew anything about my teacher's personal lives growing up.

The point of education is for the students to study the curriculum and pass the tests.

Wanting to keep private things private is not pretending that private things do not exist.

Every student should be ignorant of intimate personal details of their teachers.

Weird. I knew which of my teachers were married, which ones weren’t. Who had kids, who didn’t. And yet we were able to avoid discussing anything sexual. Even when Miss Martel told us she was having a baby, we managed to talk about it without talking about her sex life.

History of all world religions should be taught in all public schools. They are a big deal.

If one wants a religious education, they should go to a religious school.

Much more so than whether your teacher is a homosexual and if the kids want to know more about it.

LoL, what? When somebody says something that reveals to you they are with somebody, do you ask them questions about the functions and behaviors that occur between them?

A teacher can be whatever religion they want - but the moment they start trying to share why they chose whatever religion and encourage their students to learn more about it - that's the line.

It has. The one case I am referencing was a P.E. teacher and he got in big trouble - yet cases like this continue to happen and activists continue to support it.

It’s not, but ok.

This is what I asked, "You think it is appropriate for schoolteachers to be discussing their sexuality with their students? Keeping secrets from their parents?"

You then replied with, "Depends on the secret." - which as I said is completely inappropriate. No adult should share a secret with my children that I don't know about.

Then you’re going to have quite a shock when you realize that your kids are going to have all sorts of secrets from all sorts of people that you do not and never will know about, lol.

There is a reason that the curriculum is posted publicly. Teachers are supposed to stick to the curriculum. The only topics they should be discussing with my children are subject listed on the curriculum.

LoL, what? Teachers make a vague curriculum available, and often deviate from it based on everything from test scores to availability of resources to student need.

Or teachers should just follow the posted curriculum?

Children being forced to Zoom Call classes during the lockdowns exposed teachers nation-wide to parents for not following their curriculums and discussing inappropriate things with their students.

Lololol, it did not. It exposed parents to the reality of teaching and forced parents to realize how much they rely on teachers for literally everything.

That is not what a secret is. Stop being disingenuous.

I’m not but whatever you say.

Every parent or guardian bears 100% responsibility for their children - so they also hold 100% authority over them.

They do not, actually.

If I green-light a curriculum - agree to what the teacher is going to be teaching my children - and they start teaching something that I did not agree to - I am not the one who violated an agreement or anyone's trust.

Lololollllllll you don’t “green light” the curriculums a teacher provides to their students, what are you even talking about? You get zero input on curriculums and zero say on what they teach or how they teach it, and you absolutely don’t approve it, lololllllllll!!!

And your response that my wanting to make sure my children are educated properly - without being politicized or sexualized - means that I am somehow controlling and abusive - shows just how desperate you must be to politicize and sexualize children.

You’re the one saying that you’re having all of these sexually charged discussions, not me. I’m capable of hearing basic information about people without it leading to a discussion about sex.

But hey, whatever.

How many children do you have?

I would tell you, but apparently sharing personal information that may reveal my sexuality is not appropriate.

If I can be punished for what my child decides to do - then I have all authority over them.

Thats not entirely true, but whatever.

If you believe that any child "needs" to be politicized or sexualized - then you have a reckoning coming.

Educated and informed children? Oh no…

You need to mind your business and stop bringing your personal business into my life and the lives of my children.

What are you talking about? My personal business? You asked me, lol!

 

[Tropical Wilds]

It’s a religious hospital. People have no right to tell them how to function. If they think abortion or trans surgery is wrong, they have every right to deny it.

Move on.

No, they can’t. Certain standards of care have to be consistently maintained and offered or else they cannot be considered a hospital. Birth control, MAP access, and abortions are three such services.

You can say “move on” all you want, but you’re making yourself look foolish. Those are basic facts. You may not like them or want to address them, but it doesn’t change that basic fact. Their hospital status overrides any self-imposed morality they want claim on religious grounds.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

She’s simply pointing out its hypocritical to attack Christians for denying services for same sex “marriages” but still support a Muslim for doing the same.

You can’t have it both ways, sorry.

When did I mention Muslims, bakeries, or wedding cakes…? How do you know what my view is?

 

[RileyG]

No, they can’t. Certain standards of care have to be consistently maintained and offered or else they cannot be considered a hospital. Birth control, MAP access, and abortions are three such services.

You can say “move on” all you want, but you’re making yourself look foolish. Those are basic facts. You may not like them or want to address them, but it doesn’t change that basic fact. Their hospital status overrides any self-imposed morality they want claim on religious grounds.

Sorry, I don’t see abortion as medical care and never will.

I’m not foolish for wanting to protect the most vulnerable.

It’s the difference between right and wrong,

 

[RileyG]

When did I mention Muslims, bakeries, or wedding cakes…? How do you know what my view is?

She was asking a question. You didn’t answer it.

 

[Chrystal-J]

When did I mention Muslims, bakeries, or wedding cakes…? How do you know what my view is?

Ok, what is your view? Should a Muslim be forced to bake gay wedding cakes? (Since some bakeries take food stamps.)

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Maybe not where you live, but they do here.

Not for prepared food, they don’t.

Guess you're not gonna answer the question.

You think that a bakery and the availability of a decorated is comparable to standardized medical care…?

 

[Chrystal-J]

No, they can’t. Certain standards of care have to be consistently maintained and offered or else they cannot be considered a hospital. Birth control, MAP access, and abortions are three such services.

You can say “move on” all you want, but you’re making yourself look foolish. Those are basic facts. You may not like them or want to address them, but it doesn’t change that basic fact. Their hospital status overrides any self-imposed morality they want claim on religious grounds.

So, a Catholic hospital should have to kill pre-born babies?

 

[Chrystal-J]

Not for prepared food, they don’t.

You think that a bakery and the availability of a decorated is comparable to standardized medical care…?

How would you know what place takes food stamps where I live? I've personally taken people to bakeries that did LEGALLY take food stamps.