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French academic denied entry to US for ‘personal opinion’ on Trump

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If you simply have to infiltrate our great nation with your unAmerican ideas, you could buy a burner phone.
I recall a conversation about business travel to china. The standard practice being to leave all your devices at home and acquire burner replacements upon arrival that were destroyed prior to departure.

Sigh.
 
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white house is claiming that it was because he had confidential material, but....how they would get that from him ENTERING or a quick check of his computer, sounds more like an excuse.

“The French researcher in question was in possession of confidential information on his electronic device from Los Alamos National Laboratory"

Right, wouldn't you let them in and escort them to a jail cell for having national secrets?
 
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white house is claiming that it was because he had confidential material, but....how they would get that from him ENTERING or a quick check of his computer, sounds more like an excuse.


At this point, it's always wisest to assume the Trump administration is lying.


"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me. "
— Pastor Martin Niemöller

 
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The French government said Thursday that a French academic was refused entry onto U.S. soil over comments he had expressed against policies enacted by U.S. President Donald Trump.​
France’s Higher Education Minister Philippe Baptiste said that “he had learned with concern that a French academic who was going to a conference in Houston was denied entry before being deported” back to Europe, according to a ministry statement seen by POLITICO.​
“This measure was apparently taken by the American authorities because the researcher’s phone contained conversations with colleagues and friends in which he expressed a personal opinion on the Trump administration’s research policy,” he said.......​
According to the AFP, the researcher was accused of sending messages “that expressed hatred towards Trump and can be qualified as terrorism,” but all charges against him were eventually dropped.​
The news comes as the Trump administration has recently accused Europe of curtailing free speech, with Vice President JD Vance launching a blistering attack against the continent last month, saying in Munich: “I believe deeply that there is no security if you are afraid of the voices, the opinions and the conscience that guide your very own people.”​
How incredibly hypocritical of Vance and Trump. They apparently can't let a person come to the US for a conference who has a negative opinion of Trump. I guess it hurts his little feelings.
Politico? Well there's a reliable leftist Trump hating organization. Completely unbiased in every way.

Here's the truth. We have zero evidence in the article to go on. All we have is information from a Trump hating foreigner and some blurb from the French government who also hates Trump.

And we have a biased source who jumps to conclusions over it, when they honestly have no clue. Because if they did they would have printed it.
 
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Politico leans left. It is not 'leftist Trump hating organization'.

Any potential charges were dismissed.

In the meantime, France is wooing academics from US universities. Looks like there will be a brain drain.
 
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Does this mean that I could be banned from entering the US because my phone contains links to this forum. And my personal comments about what I think of Trump?
Wouldn't that be a cryin' shame.......
 
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I can't get my head around this. Does this mean that I could be banned from entering the US because my phone contains links to this forum. And my personal comments about what I think of Trump? Will this be part of the form you have to fill in at the airport?

Yes. And maybe yes.
 
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How incredibly hypocritical of Vance and Trump. They apparently can't let a person come to the US for a conference who has a negative opinion of Trump. I guess it hurts his little feelings.

I have often seen snow-flakey behavior and opinions from liberal folk, yes ... but we all know who the biggest ones are around here, and it's the ones who seem to like throwing the term snowflake around as an insult the most. Trump’s ego is so obviously fragile it's not even funny.
 
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At this point, it's always wisest to assume the Trump administration is lying.
Yes, that is a given. Distortions of truth, I suppose we can expect from everyone in the public real. But now we get outright obvious lies.
If said loudly enough and often enough they they become doctrine.
 
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Yes, that is a given. Distortions of truth, I suppose we can expect from everyone in the public real. But now we get outright obvious lies.
If said loudly enough and often enough they they become doctrine.

A Jedi mind trick he learned from the Sith Lord, Roy Cohn.
 
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If you simply have to infiltrate our great nation with your unAmerican ideas, you could buy a burner phone.

ETA: The Onion
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Expect extra questions, take a burner phone: Immigration lawyers weigh in on travel to the U.S.

Mobile phones can be searched, lawyers say​

Segal also suggests people travel with a burner phone and leave their actual phones at home.

U.S. customs officials can look through a mobile phone, check comments made on social media and look through a laptop, she said. They can also take devices or download all of their contents, she added.

"To protect yourself, more so now than ever, I think it is a great idea to take a burner phone, to not take your technology, to not take anything on your technology that you would be afraid of any government entity knowing or having," she said.

"The concept of privacy is completely different when you enter the United States."
 
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I'm not a lawyer, but I suspect this is legal. Entering the US is not a constitutional right. Of course it's unethical. But we have more serious problems to deal with. Once someone is in the US, the constitution applies, including the 1st amendment. That's where the courts need to intervene.
 
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From here: What Australians flying to the US need to know about phone and device searches at the border

What should I do to prepare before going to the US?​

'Take steps to protect your devices, or find alternatives.

If you’re travelling for work, consider taking a laptop that has no confidential information, is shut down on entry and is not automatically connected to any cloud services or email accounts that may store confidential information.

For mobile phones, if you have the means, consider setting up a second device (sometimes referred to as a burner phone) to travel with. Make sure your second device is stripped of confidential information and contains only the basics needed on your trip.

Consider setting up a second mobile number/sim card for the second device. But if you do, make sure any apps or services that you use which are reliant on two-factor SMS authentication (rather than dedicated 2FA apps such as Authenticator) are set to verify you through your new number.'

These are steps I would imagine I might need to take before going to North Korea.
 
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