Free Will

[AV1611VET]

What do you think makes your decisions...?

Are you asking me, Neogaia?

 

[Neogaia777]

Are you asking me, Neogaia?

I'm asking everyone, so, yeah, sure, etc...

 

[Neogaia777]

All of this, and us, and this entire thing, might even be able to be expressed mathematically one day, etc...

God Bless!

 

[Bradskii]

What gave you that impression?

It's not an impression.

 

[AV1611VET]

I'm asking everyone, so, yeah, sure, etc...

I think YOU make your decisions.

As the saying goes: "You are your choices."

The Bible has an interesting thing to say about the heart ...

Proverbs 23:7a For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he:

... it thinks!

 

[Neogaia777]

I think YOU make your decisions.

As the saying goes: "You are your choices."

The Bible has an interesting thing to say about the heart ...

Proverbs 23:7a For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he:

... it thinks!

Well, what is "you", etc...?

And why do you think it makes your decisions, etc...?

God Bless!

 

[AV1611VET]

All of this, and us, and this entire thing, might even be able to be expressed mathematically one day, etc...

Hmmm ...

Then those of us who aren't good at math can't explain ourselves!?

 

[Neogaia777]

And it might be fair to mention that I also think that God the Spirit, or God in the OT, and God the Son (Jesus) are or were (for maybe a time) were all caught up in this as well, etc...

And that the only One not ever caught up in this ever at all, was only God the Father only, etc...

And I even think Jesus knew of this, and told us this to our very faces, etc... in so many words anyway, etc...

God Bless!

 

[AV1611VET]

Well, what is "you", etc...?

I'm not sure what you're getting at here.

God gave us the ability to think.

To process incoming data and store it as information.

You know? the smarts?

 

[Neogaia777]

Hmmm ...

Then those of us who aren't good at math can't explain ourselves!?

I think that by the time any of us can understand it that way, we will already be in heaven and will already be beyond this already, etc...

God Bless!

 

[AV1611VET]

And it might be fair to mention that I also think that God the Spirit, or God in the OT, and God the Son (Jesus) are or were (for maybe a time) were all caught up in this as well, etc...

Caught up in what?

Thinking?

Of course They were.

 

[AV1611VET]

I think that by the time any of us can understand it that way, we will already be in heaven and will already be beyond this already, etc...

Um ... okie doke.

 

[Neogaia777]

I'm not sure what you're getting at here.

God gave us the ability to think.

To process incoming data and store it as information.

You know? the smarts?

Well, what is "thinking"...?

And how did the incoming data, come in...? And how did, or what caused how we chose to store it as information, and in what form, etc...?

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

Caught up in what?

Thinking?

Of course They were.

In the program, etc, and were not outside of, or beyond it for a time, etc...

God Bless!

 

[AV1611VET]

Well, what is "thinking"...?

And how did the incoming data, come in...? And how did, or what caused how we chose to store it as information, and in what form, etc...?

Oh, my.

This is a little out of my league, I'm afraid.

But if I had to guess, I would say thinking involves taking data that comes to us via our empirical senses and channeling that data into information "files" that can be accessed at a moment's notice.

(If that makes any sense.)

 

[AV1611VET]

In the program, etc, and were not outside of, or beyond it for a time, etc...

God Bless!

Huh?

What program?

(Sorry ... I'm lost here.)

 

[Neogaia777]

Oh, my.

This is a little out of my league, I'm afraid.

But if I had to guess, I would say thinking involves taking data that comes to us via our empirical senses and channeling that data into information "files" that can be accessed at a moment's notice.

(If that makes any sense.)

So, our thinking, and information storage, and how we do it/organize it, etc, is/was always dictated by what was coming in from what was outside of it (by or from it's senses) (and also prior experiences/feelings, etc) prior, etc...?

 

[Neogaia777]

Huh?

What program?

(Sorry ... I'm lost here.)

That's ok friend, maybe let some others take a crack at it for a little bit maybe, etc...?

God Bless!

 

[AV1611VET]

So, our thinking, and information storage, and how we do it/organize it, etc, is/was always dictated by what was coming in from what was outside of it (by or from it's senses) (and also prior experiences/feelings, etc) prior, etc...?

Again, this is a little out of my league, but I would say we do the dictating -- not "what is coming in from what was outside of it" -- whatever that means.

What "comes in" from the outside is still outside.

If a car goes by, leaving its impression on our memory, that car is still going to be going on down the road.

What we saw and heard though, will be stored in our "memory banks".

"Green cheese" is in my memory banks; but when I think "green cheese," I don't equate it with the moon.

I learned to equate "green cheese" with cheese that hasn't matured yet.

 

[AV1611VET]

That's ok friend, maybe let some others take a crack at it for a little bit maybe, etc...?

God Bless!

Sorry I couldn't help. :/