Free will vs Determinism and religion

[Fortunecookie]

But how can God punish us for our sins then if he already decided we would commit them? Especially talking about eternity in hell.

 

[Colter]

But how can God punish us for our sins then if he already decided we would commit them? Especially talking about eternity in hell.

Your concept of God needs to be reconsidered if you yourself have a greater awareness of justice than your God.

Hell is a complete fabrication on the part of false teachers who have no better message other than manipulative fear.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Your concept of God needs to be reconsidered if you yourself have a greater awareness of justice than your. God.

Hell is a complete fabrication on the part of false teachers who have no better message other than manipulative fear.

Fine, then interpret the decisions of god in the bible, but with a twist: god being the equivalent of what a human would be like with that sort of power and time. Because if you aren't ok with a human commiting those actions, then why the heck are you ok with a deity doing it?

 

[Colter]

Fine, then interpret the decisions of god in the bible, but with a twist: god being the equivalent of what a human would be like with that sort of power and time. Because if you aren't ok with a human commiting those actions, then why the heck are you ok with a deity doing it?

Good question. I'm not ok with some of the fundamental claims made about God in the scripture. The writings of the scripture are for the most part human. The development of what religions call "scripture" or the "Word of God" doesn't really have anything like what we would call a proses, an editorial board, historical or philosophical proof readers. They are retrospectives composed of what was considered important by the authors at the time long after the events they write about.......then redone later.....and redone again.....

 

[PsychoSarah]

Good question. I'm not ok with some of the fundamental claims made about God in the scripture. The writings of the scripture are for the most part human. The development of what religions call "scripture" or the Word of God doesn't really have anything like what we would call a proses, an editorial board, historical or philosophical proof readers.

So, in your opinion, the bible has a degree of inaccuracy in depicting god. Fair enough, but that somewhat contradicts the idea that many hold that god itself was directly involved in writing the bible.

 

[Colter]

So, in your opinion, the bible has a degree of inaccuracy in depicting god. Fair enough, but that somewhat contradicts the idea that many hold that god itself was directly involved in writing the bible.

The concept of Biblical inerrancy is a form of idolatry. It's an idea established down through the ages of religious evolution by the ruling medicine men, shamans and priesthoods in order to establish ecclesiastical authority. While it preserves it also retards.

Christians don't seem to understand that the rejection of Jesus by the Jews then and now is grounded in the so called inerrant scripture of the Old Testament.

 

[PsychoSarah]

The concept of Biblical inerrancy is a form of idolatry. It's an idea established down through the ages of religious evolution by the ruling medicine men, shamans and priesthoods in order to establish ecclesiastical authority. While it preserves it also retards.

Christians don't seem to understand that the rejection of Jesus by the Jews then and now is grounded in the so called inerrant scripture of the Old Testament.

Being that you do not view scripture as infallible in the slightest, why do you believe any of it?

 

[lesliedellow]

The concept of Biblical inerrancy is a form of idolatry. It's an idea established down through the ages of religious evolution by the ruling medicine men, shamans and priesthoods in order to establish ecclesiastical authority. While it preserves it also retards.

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"

The church was very young when that was written, and its official representatives, insofar as it had any, weren't even close to being in positions of power.