FOX and their Friends Still Pushing A Horse Medicine To Treat COVID

[mark46]

"Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally."

Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19... : American Journal of Therapeutics

Please present a reference with regard to ivermectin being approved for use in the US for COVID.

 

[mark46]

WHO joins Europe, Merck in recommending against ivermectin for COVID-19 | Reuters

 

[wing2000]

No one has recommended that anyone go out and buy ivermectin and take it on their own. No one has even suggested it.

....so you chalk it up to stupidity? I mean, it has nothing to do with certain talking heads telling people the gobernet is keeping covid treatments from you....

 

[mark46]

....so you chalk it up to stupidity? I mean, it has nothing to do with certain talking heads telling people the gobernet is keeping covid treatments from you....

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And you don't believe that folks are stupid for following the advice of folks on FOX and taking a drug not approved against COVID by the FDA, the WHO, the CDC and the manufacturer? Isn't at least a bit "stupid" to ignore the warnings of all the agencies AND the manufacturer.

Is it at least a bit "stupid" not to go their doctors, who will likely give them the same treatment option that was given to Gov Abbot?

 

[Bobber]

Ivermectin, which is not an anti-viral drug, is generally used to treat or prevent parasites in animals.​

I have no idea as to whether this drug would help with Covid. Don't claim that I do. But this here link says it is used in humans and tells of things one need to be aware of....like all drugs. Your statement seems to lean that generally speaking it's only used on animals. Maybe you have a link to demonstrate that? If it's used on humans and is prescribed by doctors then it's used on humans period. If one is going to say it never should be used on humans then what's it based on?

Ivermectin Uses, Side Effects & Warnings - Drugs.com​

 

[Nithavela]

I have no idea as to whether this drug would help with Covid. Don't claim that I do. But this here link says it is used in humans and tells of things one need to be aware of....like all drugs. Your statement seems to lean that generally speaking it's only used on animals. Maybe you have a link to demonstrate that? If it's used on humans and is prescribed by doctors then it's used on humans period. If one is going to say it never should be used on humans then what's it based on?

Ivermectin Uses, Side Effects & Warnings - Drugs.com​

It's an anti-parasite (and only an anti-parasite) medicine.

Covid-19 is not caused by a parasite, it's caused by a virus.

For anyone who sat through high school biology classes, this should be all the argument one needs.

 

[FreeinChrist]

Most dewormers make the animals poop more. The animal version probably causes diarrhea in humans.

Seems REALLY unwise to take the vet version of it like some folks in Mississippi. They probably had a close relationship with their toilet after taking it.

(sorry if this is disgusting, but wow- people are trying this stuff).

 

[FreeinChrist]

I have no idea as to whether this drug would help with Covid. Don't claim that I do. But this here link says it is used in humans and tells of things one need to be aware of....like all drugs. Your statement seems to lean that generally speaking it's only used on animals. Maybe you have a link to demonstrate that? If it's used on humans and is prescribed by doctors then it's used on humans period. If one is going to say it never should be used on humans then what's it based on?

Ivermectin Uses, Side Effects & Warnings - Drugs.com​

Mississippi officials warn against using livestock ivermectin to prevent COVID-19 after rise in poison control calls

Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19

There seems to be a growing interest in a drug called ivermectin to treat humans with COVID-19. Ivermectin is often used in the U.S. to treat or prevent parasites in animals. The FDA has received multiple reports of patients who have required medical support and been hospitalized after self-medicating with ivermectin intended for horses.

Here’s What You Need to Know about Ivermectin

• FDA has not approved ivermectin for use in treating or preventing COVID-19 in humans. Ivermectin tablets are approved at very specific doses for some parasitic worms, and there are topical (on the skin) formulations for head lice and skin conditions like rosacea. Ivermectin is not an anti-viral (a drug for treating viruses).
• Taking large doses of this drug is dangerous and can cause serious harm.
• If you have a prescription for ivermectin for an FDA-approved use, get it from a legitimate source and take it exactly as prescribed.
• Never use medications intended for animals on yourself. Ivermectin preparations for animals are very different from those approved for humans

One key point is that ivermectin is NOT an anti-viral drug. Covid is a virus, not a parasite. It is prescribed for humans for parasitic worm issues - like roundworm.

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[wing2000]

And you don't believe that folks are stupid for following the advice of folks on FOX and taking a drug not approved against COVID by the FDA, the WHO, the CDC and the manufacturer? Isn't at least a bit "stupid" to ignore the warnings of all the agencies AND the manufacturer.

Is it at least a bit "stupid" not to go their doctors, who will likely give them the same treatment option that was given to Gov Abbot?

Of course. People are responsible for their (stupid) choices.
The FOX talking heads bear some responsibility as well to explicitly tell people to consult with their personal Dr before taking anything...

 

[Elliewaves]

I saw a poster on these forums a few months ago saying they took it everyday as a preventative and were never getting the vaccine. I haven't seem them post in a while so I hope they are okay.

 

[stevil]

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I don't get it - leery of the vaccine but will take horse dewormer.

It seems that everything must be political.
If scientists recommend X then obviously the Democratic party are going to be supporting X so right wing media are going to recommend something other than X.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Ivermectin is just the latest iteration of this game for people (who can no longer use the "covid's not real" talking point anymore) desperately trying to cling to something, anything that allows them to profess to be outside of the "mainstream".

If there's one thing the "alternative wellness" crowd loves, it's the thought that "I know the truth, the rest of the sheeple just haven't done the research"

First it was hydroxychloroquine...then there was mega-dosing vitamin C, then it was vitamin D, then it was zinc, then it was colloidal silver, then it was essential oils, yada yada yada.

People who are desperate to be "anti-mainstream" will continue to cling to anything that's not the officially approved recommendation, because their identity seems to be wrapped up in it.

Anti-vaccine types have basically become the hipsters of the medical science world. Drinking PBR (the worst beer), and listening to absolutely terrible music, while insisting that it's great, and anyone who doesn't agree with them just isn't smart enough to 'get it'.

Maybe people who are anti-vaccine should just start wearing fedoras, vests, growing neck-beards, and riding vintage bicycles like the actual hipsters do. That way I'll know ahead of time that they don't have anything interesting to say, and I can avoid having to listen to a meaningless, self-absorbed diatribe.

 

[Pommer]

Ivermectin is just the latest iteration of this game for people (who can no longer use the "covid's not real" talking point anymore) desperately trying to cling to something, anything that allows them to profess to be outside of the "mainstream".

If there's one thing the "alternative wellness" crowd loves, it's the thought that "I know the truth, the rest of the sheeple just haven't done the research"

First it was hydroxychloroquine...then there was mega-dosing vitamin C, then it was vitamin D, then it was zinc, then it was colloidal silver, then it was essential oils, yada yada yada.

People who are desperate to be "anti-mainstream" will continue to cling to anything that's not the officially approved recommendation, because their identity seems to be wrapped up in it.

Anti-vaccine types have basically become the hipsters of the medical science world. Drinking PBR (the worst beer), and listening to absolutely terrible music, while insisting that it's great, and anyone who doesn't agree with them just isn't smart enough to 'get it'.

Maybe people who are anti-vaccine should just start wearing fedoras, vests, growing neck-beards, and riding vintage bicycles like the actual hipsters do. That way I'll know ahead of time that they don't have anything interesting to say, and I can avoid having to listen to a meaningless, self-absorbed diatribe.

People who search diligently for “the real truth”, will often find it, whether or not they actually do find it.

 

[Bradskii]

Ivermectin is just the latest iteration of this game for people (who can no longer use the "covid's not real" talking point anymore) desperately trying to cling to something, anything that allows them to profess to be outside of the "mainstream".

If there's one thing the "alternative wellness" crowd loves, it's the thought that "I know the truth, the rest of the sheeple just haven't done the research"

First it was hydroxychloroquine...then there was mega-dosing vitamin C, then it was vitamin D, then it was zinc, then it was colloidal silver, then it was essential oils, yada yada yada.

People who are desperate to be "anti-mainstream" will continue to cling to anything that's not the officially approved recommendation, because their identity seems to be wrapped up in it.

Anti-vaccine types have basically become the hipsters of the medical science world. Drinking PBR (the worst beer), and listening to absolutely terrible music, while insisting that it's great, and anyone who doesn't agree with them just isn't smart enough to 'get it'.

Maybe people who are anti-vaccine should just start wearing fedoras, vests, growing neck-beards, and riding vintage bicycles like the actual hipsters do. That way I'll know ahead of time that they don't have anything interesting to say, and I can avoid having to listen to a meaningless, self-absorbed diatribe.

Sounds like you're having a bad day, Rob!

 

[ThatRobGuy]

People who search diligently for “the real truth”, will often find it, whether or not they actually do find it.

Only News Source Man Trusts Has Logo Of Eyeball In Crosshairs

The onion satire article sums it up quite nicely lol

While Howland is said to have many thousands of news options available to him online, in print, and through broadcast media, sources indicated that the one he has deemed most trustworthy is a website that frequently uses the words “exposed,” “Orwellian,” “cover-up,” and “shadow groups” in its headlines.


Truth Link, whose sidebar prominently features an advertisement for a self-published book by the site’s editor-in-chief titled The America Files: Declassified, is reportedly one of the first websites Howland visits each morning, and one he checks four to five times during his workday and at least once per evening.

Sources noted that Howland frequently posts links to the website on Facebook, adding comments such as “Something to think about…” or “Open your eyes,”

 

[Pommer]

Only News Source Man Trusts Has Logo Of Eyeball In Crosshairs

The onion satire article sums it up quite nicely lol

While Howland is said to have many thousands of news options available to him online, in print, and through broadcast media, sources indicated that the one he has deemed most trustworthy is a website that frequently uses the words “exposed,” “Orwellian,” “cover-up,” and “shadow groups” in its headlines.


Truth Link, whose sidebar prominently features an advertisement for a self-published book by the site’s editor-in-chief titled The America Files: Declassified, is reportedly one of the first websites Howland visits each morning, and one he checks four to five times during his workday and at least once per evening.

Sources noted that Howland frequently posts links to the website on Facebook, adding comments such as “Something to think about…” or “Open your eyes,”

I sometimes savor the irony of those who had somewhat esoteric opinions on what I could do with my “feelings” (a few years back), now being addicted to being perpetually angry.

 

[KCfromNC]

People who are desperate to be "anti-mainstream" will continue to cling to anything that's not the officially approved recommendation, because their identity seems to be wrapped up in it.

Anecdotal reports have shown this oppositional defiant behavior to stop very quickly once the unvaccinated end up in the hospital.

 

[Vylo]

won't take proven vaccine that 1+ billion have gotten, that is the most scrutinized vaccine in history.

but will ingest drugs made specifically not for humans.

amazing.

 

[Belk]

Which of what I listed do the cultural marxists of today not want, ozzie?

I wondered what a "cultural Marxist" was so I googled it. The answer was enlightening.


Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory - Wikipedia

 

[Strathos]

Allow me to propose an alternative hypothesis. "cultural Marxist" is a bigoted conspiracy theory and the encyclopedia anyone can edit is not "the left".

It's actually repackaged Nazi propaganda. The only difference is that they called it 'Cultural Bolshevism'.