Fossil Record Observation

[Queller]

Many of the avian dinosaurs were quite large, and may possibly had trouble flying for long time periods.

On what do you base this suggestion?

 

[Queller]

"but it does mean for a meander to form the rate of flow must be slow."

That is not right.
If you like to know why, ask.

I'll ask, why?

The stream table seems to agree that meanders only form via slow-moving water.

 

[Queller]

The formation of meandering does not depend on the flow speed, but depends on the nature of the sediments.

The video you posted shows differently.

With a certain property of sediments, even a very fast flow (or a very slow flow) will form meanders.

What sediment properties are required for a fast flow to form meanders?

 

[Loudmouth]

Are you the one who said you are a Christian yet you don't believe Gods word,

Did Galileo not believe in God's word?

"First, . . . to want to affirm that in reality the sun is at the center of the world and only turns on itself without moving from east to west, and the earth . . . revolves with great speed about the sun . . . is a very dangerous thing, likely not only to irritate all scholastic philosophers and theologians, but also to harm the Holy Faith by rendering Holy Scripture false."--Cardinal Bellarmine, 1615

You are saying God lied in the bible when he sent the flood.

If you say that the Prodigal Son was not a real person, are you saying that Jesus was lying?

 

[juvenissun]

How gradual? Remember, you only have 40 days and nights worth of water increase to submerge the entire planet.

Good question. How about 3 meters per hour? It probably won't raise any significant waves.

 

[juvenissun]

The video you posted shows differently.

What sediment properties are required for a fast flow to form meanders?

Sediments with higher shear strength.

 

[Aureus]

Good question. How about 3 meters per hour? It probably won't raise any significant waves.

Everest is 8,848 meters high. At 3 meters per hour for 40 days, you only get to an increase of 2,880 meters. You need to bump up to at least 9.22 meters/hour. "Won't raise any significant waves" Riiighhtttt.

 

[juvenissun]

Everest is 8,848 meters high. At 3 meters per hour for 40 days, you only get to an increase of 2,880 meters. You need to bump up to at least 9.22 meters/hour. "Won't raise any significant waves" Riiighhtttt.

it does not need Mt. Everest there.
Thanks for the calculation. I think 2 meters per hour would probably be enough.

 

[Queller]

Good question. How about 3 meters per hour? It probably won't raise any significant waves.

Riiiight. The fountains of the great deep bursting open and the opening of the floodgates of heaven causing worldwide water levels to rise 72 meters per day won't cause any significant waves. Pull the other one.

I take it that it is your contention that the highest mountains on earth at the time of the Flood were less than 3 kilometers in height?

How long ago do you believe the Flood occurred?

 

[Queller]

Sediments with higher shear strength.

Such as?

 

[Queller]

it does not need Mt. Everest there.
Thanks for the calculation. I think 2 meters per hour would probably be enough.

Wow, so now the highest mountains in the world were less than two kilometers in height?

How long ago was the flood again?

 

[Shemjaza]

Wow, so now the highest mountains in the world were less than two kilometers in height?

How long ago was the flood again?

It's not worth getting into an evidence fight on this thread. The OP already conceded several steps of divine intervention in reshaping the land as the world flooded.

The evidence issue is now just for why would God make it look like an ancient Earth.

 

[juvenissun]

Riiiight. The fountains of the great deep bursting open and the opening of the floodgates of heaven causing worldwide water levels to rise 72 meters per day won't cause any significant waves. Pull the other one.

I take it that it is your contention that the highest mountains on earth at the time of the Flood were less than 3 kilometers in height?

How long ago do you believe the Flood occurred?

Yes, that is the key question. I don't have a solid answer on that.
But, time is not an issue in this thread. Right?

 

[juvenissun]

Such as?

Hey, you are good.
Such as un-indurated sedimentary rocks.

 

[juvenissun]

Wow, so now the highest mountains in the world were less than two kilometers in height?

How long ago was the flood again?

Even use the ICR's model, major tectonic events did not happen before the Flood.

 

[Shemjaza]

Even use the ICR's model, major tectonic events did not happen before the Flood.

Why bother with science at all when it comes to the flood if it's a whole long list of inexplicable miracles?

You're just creating all the same issues people came against with the Omphalos.

 

[DogmaHunter]

But, time is not an issue in this thread. Right?

No amount of evidence of reality, seems to be an issue in this thread.

 

[juvenissun]

Why bother with science at all when it comes to the flood if it's a whole long list of inexplicable miracles?

You're just creating all the same issues people came against with the Omphalos.

To me, the list has only one item on it. Not that bad.

 

[Queller]

Yes, that is the key question. I don't have a solid answer on that.

That's OK, I'll take a ballpark estimate.

But, time is not an issue in this thread. Right?

According to the OP, this all happened rather quickly so yes, time is an issue.

How long ago do you believe the Flood occurred?

 

[Queller]

Hey, you are good.
Such as un-indurated sedimentary rocks.

Give an example of such un-indurated sedimentary rocks, that is; rock that has not been hardened by heat or baking or sediments that have not been hardened through cementation or compaction, or both, without the introduction of heat.