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[I_are_sceptical]

So yes and why or no and why??

thanks for your post and vote

I didn't vote.

Whether I accept or refuse the chip would not be based on my religious beliefs. Since this thread asks for the opinions of Baha'is, I didn't want to say anything I couldn't back up with Scripture.

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

Oh, that's rich. Lol-that is some sweet potato irony right there. Verichip is a reality and exists without a doubt so to claim it is a myth is no less absurd than saying there is no water in the oceans.

 

[sidhe]

People say RFID tags can do all kinds of things. Like when the library I used to work at got sold on the idea of an RFID checkout system...they'd just be able to stack the books on the counter and the magic RFID scanner would check them all out automatically.

Then they got it. It works like an IR scanner, but with fewer misscans. One book at a time. If you bring it too close to the scanner, it won't read. If you hold the book at the wrong angle, it won't read. If you hold it too far from the scanner, it won't read.

So, when someone says satellites can read RFID tags...I question their knowledge and experience with those accursed things.

Though they work better than barcodes, IMHO.

 

[Fineous_Reese]

Prove it.

prove what? that it exists?

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1040_22-5545802.html

not sure what you're looking for as "proof" though *shrug*

prove it's a nightmare of stuff? that's an opinion and can't be "proven" just argued either way

unless you meant prove it could be implanted w/o someone knowing and that's pretty much impossible to prove/disprove as some folks might notice and others might not.

 

[dlamberth]

Here's how I feel. I would not want a chip implanted in me and I don't believe it would be a good thing for our society to go that route. But if that did happened, it would not change the most important thing and that's how I treat other human beings.

Carey, if you were implanted with the chip would that have any impact in you resting your soul in Jesus Christ? I doubt it. Your source of freedom would still be intact, and that's what really matters here. And that's something that can survive regardless of if you were implanted with a chip or not.

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[Athrond]

Ok I took your bait.

I'm an Atheist and I voted "yes".

Why? because i understand that this video is false from start to finish and distorts the facts about such chips. You can't read them from space for instance.

Also: I don't believe in the thing about 666 and whatnot.

Athrond

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

One link i read said after implantation the recipient wont feel it at all. Since that's the case it could be implanted in someone without their knowledge. This chip was used in the remake of the Manchurian Candidate with D Washington. Our bodies operate on electrical impulses sent to our brain. In crude layman's terms, once those frequencies are decoded our brains are open to outside control.

 

[morningstar2651]

People say RFID tags can do all kinds of things. Like when the library I used to work at got sold on the idea of an RFID checkout system...they'd just be able to stack the books on the counter and the magic RFID scanner would check them all out automatically.

Then they got it. It works like an IR scanner, but with fewer misscans. One book at a time. If you bring it too close to the scanner, it won't read. If you hold the book at the wrong angle, it won't read. If you hold it too far from the scanner, it won't read.

So, when someone says satellites can read RFID tags...I question their knowledge and experience with those accursed things.

Though they work better than barcodes, IMHO.

I worry when libraries think of using them for theft detection, though.

http://www.ala.org/ala/pla/plapubs/technotes/rfidtechnology.cfm

 

[Conspiracy Theory]

One link i read said after implantation the recipient wont feel it at all. Since that's the case it could be implanted in someone without their knowledge. This chip was used in the remake of the Manchurian Candidate with D Washington. Our bodies operate on electrical impulses sent to our brain. In crude layman's terms, once those frequencies are decoded our brains are open to outside control.

Those electrical impulses only travel inside of nerve cells. Once they reach the end of the nerve cell, at the synaptic gap, they stimulate the release of neurostransmitters which travel through the synaptic gap and to the next nerve cell.

In layman's terms, you're wrong.

 

[sidhe]

I worry when libraries think of using them for theft detection, though.

http://www.ala.org/ala/pla/plapubs/technotes/rfidtechnology.cfm

We did that, too. The theft detection apparatus was so fickle and sensitive that, if it went off, we told whoever it was just to keep moving, unless we hadn't seen them come check anything out.

Theoretically, someone could've loaded their bookbag with stuff, checked out a couple books, and left, and we'd have just waved them on.

 

[Druweid]

Please only pagans vote here.

Is this chip a good thing??

In and of itself, the chip is a good thing. Nonetheless, the U.S. gov't can take pretty much anything, and no matter how good it is, find a way to make it bad or badly used.

And Puh-leeeze, the 666 crap is just that, crap. First, the two thin lines on either side of a barcode is not a number, it's a check-start and a check-stop. Second, some bible scholars have already admitted that the 666 mentioned in the Bible could also be read as 616, and there's a high likelihood it refers to Nero (The Ceasar, not the DVD burning software). :-D

Respectfully,
-- Druweid

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

For clarification, i wasnt saying the Verichip is capable of brain control-only pointed out it was used in the movie as such for a prop. I am saying brain control is where we are headed and if anyone wants to claim technology will never provide the ability to do so, it may be good to keep in mind at one point peeps said humans could never make a bird-like flying machine and that we could never walk on the moon. Heck, genetically engieered babies are within the next 20 years.

 

[Carey]

For clarification, i wasnt saying the Verichip is capable of brain control-only pointed out it was used in the movie as such for a prop. I am saying brain control is where we are headed and if anyone wants to claim technology will never provide the ability to do so, it may be good to keep in mind at one point peeps said humans could never make a bird-like flying machine and that we could never walk on the moon. Heck, genetically engieered babies are within the next 20 years.

Good post

Proverbs 3 :
21 My son, preserve sound judgment and discernment,
do not let them out of your sight;

22 they will be life for you,
an ornament to grace your neck.
23 Then you will go on your way in safety,
and your foot will not stumble; 24 when you lie down, you will not be afraid;
when you lie down, your sleep will be sweet.

 

[necroforest]

Where's the "don't know" and "don't care" options?

 

[Carey]

Ok I took your bait.

I'm an Atheist and I voted "yes".

Why? because i understand that this video is false from start to finish and distorts the facts about such chips. You can't read them from space for instance.

Also: I don't believe in the thing about 666 and whatnot.

Athrond

Thank you for your vote and your post

 

[Carey]

Merged identical threads

he thread polls have to be seperate to show the % of votes in a specific group.

 

[LewisWildermuth]

I'm not an atheist, but also not a creationist, and after giving it some thought I voted yes, as a piece of fiction, this chip is a good thing, but the Death Star was much cooler.

 

[StarCannon]

*gags*

I'd never get one.

 

[KentuckyBoy87]

I see the pro and con on this: of course we want to protect our kids if they should (God forbid) get kidnapped, you want to know where they are.
But also see how people may not want know where everybody is at all the time. And we're becoming a paranoid society.
I'm going to vote no. Not a good idea. We just need to keep a better eye on our kids. And pray nothing happens to them.
At any event, I'm sure wives everywhere are signing up their husbands for this tracking device.
lol.

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

Even it becomes fairly common usage it doesnt mean it will provide the intended services. Frequencies are vulnerable to being hacked and iam sure even now research is underway to trick the RFID. How many husbands would buy a re-router?