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[Carey]

Including the 1,000,000,000 or so people who live on the proverbial "dollar a day"? These people don't even have electricity and you are claiming they will be integrated into a global monetary system. But why let a few little facts get in the way of a paranoid conspiracy.

No the 3rd world more than likely will become slave labor.

Slavery still thrives in parts Africa and always has.

Chipping slaves would make it easy to hunt them down if they escaped. Especially if they did not know they were chipped.

This would be easy to do to an uneducated 3rd world society.
And could be justified as chipping for their own good or for the good of the world for many reasons terrorism, pandemics etc.

So anyway I guess you think chipping is ok??

 

[Adivi]

Thats the point even civilians can afford this stuff and have access to it.

So the government being able to track something smaller from satelite is obvious for anyone with common sense.

Until we unveiled the stealth aircraft we had for decades before making it public people would have sounded like you if I had told them the governement had it.

Well, I think that the government already has quantum computers and quantum encryption plus a computer that can break 2048-bit RSA and million-bit DES in a second!

 

[[serious]]

Errr... I've worked with them in the lab. Those shown (and those implanted) are very close range transmitters. In general use you are talking inches, at max a few meters (with special equipment) several miles is no where NEAR in range of what these can do. These larger external trackers are entirely different.

 

[BrainHertz]

Did you read about the last 5 posts??...sheesh

Yes, Carey, I read them. What did you think I was responding to?

That's a nasty attitude you got there, btw.

 

[lemmings]

This RFID chip competes with God’s surveillance system? Someone get Him some glasses!

 

[Vainglorious]

No the 3rd world more than likely will become slave labor.

Slavery still thrives in parts Africa and always has.

Chipping slaves would make it easy to hunt them down if they escaped. Especially if they did not know they were chipped.

This would be easy to do to an uneducated 3rd world society.
And could be justified as chipping for their own good or for the good of the world for many reasons terrorism, pandemics etc.

Are you aware of how racist and ignorant you have become?

How can you possibly predict the future when you don't even understand the present?

I won't answer your question because it is a false dichotomy and strawman.

 

[USMC4Life]

Yes it is a great idea, because its a myth.

 

[morningstar2651]

Thank you for your post.

How do you know it is not yet trackable from satelite??

How do you know your links info is totally updated. I would think the governement would classify what it could do as long as possible.

When we mentioned a couple of weeks ago that a judge had determined that police had the right to plant GPS units on suspects' cars without their knowledge, one thing many of you asked was how they could do that. Wouldn't the suspect see an antenna somewhere? Well, here's one answer (though we don't think this specific bug has been used by law enforcement agencies yet). U.K.-based security and defense company QinetiQ has unveiled what they say is the world's smallest GPS tracking device. The unit, developed with Global Point Technologies, Durham University and the Centre of Excellence for Nanotechnology, Micro and Photonic Systems, does not require an external antenna, and is being marketed specifically as a theft-prevention device that can be "fitted to any moveable asset such as vehicles, containers, pallets or packages." At least it's not small enough to be implanted, unlike some RFID chips.
http://www.engadget.com/2005/02/12/qinetiq-announces-smallest-gps-tracking-unit/

RFID uses radio frequencies. If it's powerful enough to pick up in orbit, then it's powerful enough to pick up from down the street...which it isn't.

 

[[serious]]

The tracking chip also drinks all your beer and calls your mother in law. It will recalibrate your refrigerator's coolness setting so all your ice cream goes melty. It will demagnetize the strips on all your credit cards, screw up the tracking on your television and use subspace field harmonics to scratch any CDs you try to play.

 

[Arthra]

Well this Youtube by "Strangeland.com" is an example of the same sort of thing I've heard for the past fifty years or so... the mark of the beast 666.. It used to be they were concerned about NATO and that a building in Brussles had everyones data in it... before that it was concern about the Social Security Number.. every one assigned a number and so on... so now that we have GPS and microchips the same sort of paranoia is being spouted...

Also, concern about a "New World Order".. well it's the "samo samo"..nothing very original or enlightened..just paranoia pure and simple.

If you don't want your car to have lojac GPS? ...hey...don't sweat it. You don't have to have one.. You don't want your child or your dog or your grandma to have one?... don't sweat it.

What does concern me though is that some Christians are being motivated by fear of a poorly interpreted text of scripture... It saddens me really that this sort of tripe continues to haunt people.

- Art

 

[LewisWildermuth]

How can I have an opinion on a chip that does not exist?

The verichip is neat, but it is not the chip this video is talking about.

All the verichip can do is hold a few numbers for a reader, and that reader has to be close to it.

This video is ranting about some imaginary chip that does not exist.

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

The chip isnt a myth since it got approved by the FDA in 04.' This is a nightmare of paranoia, privacy, security and constitutional issues. If someone got drugged and knocked out the chip could be implanted unknown to the victim. This is not a good thing at all.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Huh? What's the purpose of these threads? To find out how to fit other religious groups into your end times epistemology?

I bet our JESUS returns before yours does.
Oh wait, what if ours has already come and we just missed Him

http://www.scripture4all.org/

John 11:48 "If ever we may be letting Him thus, all shall be believing into Him, and shall be coming the Romans and they shall be taking away of us and the Place and the Nation.

Reve 2:5 Be remembering then!, whence thou hast fallen and reform! And the first works do! If yet no, I am coming to thee swiftly, and shall be removing the Lamp-stand of Thee out of the Place of her, if ever no thou should be reforming.

http://www.davieapostolicchurch.com/studies/destuct/

The day on which Titus encompassed Jerusalem, was the feast of the Passover. At this season multitudes came up from all the surrounding country, and from distant parts, to keep the festival and the city was at this time crowded with Jewish strangers,...........

.......The Temple now presented little more than a heap of ruins.................

......Before their final demolition, however, Titus took a survey of the city and its fortifications ; and, while contemplating their impregnable strength, could not help ascribing his success to the peculiar interposition of the ALMIGHTY HIMSELF. "Had not God himself (exclaimed he) aided out operations, and driven the Jews from their fortresses, it would have been absolutely impossible to have taken them ; for what could men, and the force of engines, have done against such towers as these ?" ..................

 

[BrainHertz]

Sorry, but I just had to go back and respond to this:

Until we unveiled the stealth aircraft we had for decades before making it public people would have sounded like you if I had told them the governement had it.

No they wouldn't. Stealth aircraft were no surprise to anybody who was paying attention.

Aircraft designers have been trying to design low radar cross-section aircraft since radar was invented. The first publicly acknowledged serious attempt (albeit not very successful) by the US at designing a stealth aircraft was the SR-71, announced to the public in 1964.

The technology behind modern stealth aircraft such as the F-117 wasn't developed by the US - it actually came from a Russian scientist called Pyotr Ufimtsev (look it up). His work wasn't secret, and in fact was published. One particularly important paper entitled "Method of Edge Waves in the Physical Theory of Diffraction" published in 1966 and is widely considered to be the basis of much of modern stealth aircraft design.

Here's a couple of references:

http://www.centennialofflight.gov/essay/Evolution_of_Technology/Stealth_tech/Tech18.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SR-71_Blackbird

The point is this: the appearance of stealth aircraft might have been a surprise to you, but wasn't to anybody who was looking at what was going on. Aside from specifics of particular aircraft, that the technology existed was not secret at all.

 

[Conspiracy Theory]

I don't need electronics implanted in me since I'm already a Cylon.

 

[Gracchus]

And if the chip could do all that: tracking, and holding personal data, and feeding information into a database (and such capabilities are likely in the future), it would, in itself be neither good nor bad, but like all technologies could be used for either.

Even the current technology will be widely misused as long as lazy, stupid, greedy, and arrogantly ignorant people tolerate government by vicious murdering cowards who hold themselves above any law.

 

[USMC4Life]

The chip isnt a myth since it got approved by the FDA in 04.' This is a nightmare of paranoia, privacy, security and constitutional issues. If someone got drugged and knocked out the chip could be implanted unknown to the victim. This is not a good thing at all.

Prove it.

 

[Tomk80]

The tracking chip also drinks all your beer and calls your mother in law. It will recalibrate your refrigerator's coolness setting so all your ice cream goes melty. It will demagnetize the strips on all your credit cards, screw up the tracking on your television and use subspace field harmonics to scratch any CDs you try to play.

It will tape your bedtime adventures with your spouse. And the really intimate details of it, like what temperature your body had when you two were busy. This data will then be distributed over that other method of the devil: tha intawebs, and combined with the video tape that was made by the government with the video camera that has been secretly installed in all your televisions.

You're never safe, the government is everywhere. Paranoia is not a disease, it's an accurate description of reality. Be afraid.. Be very afraid.

 

[vajradhara]

Why you direct this question to Buddhist?

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he's asking it of most of the non-Christian groups here.

metta,

~v

 

[stumpjumper]

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